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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by RTRab View Post

    Hi Seamus,
    Thanks for the suggestion. I have come across a few CBRs here in Hyderabad, but many of them do not have ABS and those that have ABS have done a good deal of kms. I did go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick . While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
    I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two . I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth.

    Thanks in advance again folks !
    If peace of mind is your option, I would strongly suggest you lean towards the SF250 twins. The SF250 is one of the best, if not the best high revving 250 that offers more or less a similar performance, if not slightly better mid range performance than the CBR 250 in city, barring the Duke 250 at a competitive price. Highways is where the SF250 shines, sweet mid range performance is absolute stress free on the highways, coupled with 6 cogs it's a through balance of power and comfort. CBR is a bummer when it comes to choc a bloc traffic, where it demands the rider frequent shifts.

    If your commute mostly includes slicing through traffic, the choc a bloc traffic of Hyderabad, Gixxer 250 would keep you happy. Coming to maintenance cost, for a similar performance the cost of ownership is comparatively lesser than the CBR in every aspect of ownership, especially when compared to spares, and ease of serviceability and overall spares downtime.

    Good luck.

    Cheers!
    VJ
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  • RTRab
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post

    I am a very fresh owner, of used Cbr250r.

    And for service i prefer my trusted mechanic, deals in servicing higher cc bikes. Spare parts shouldnt be an issue as long as they mechanic knows from where to source. Honda service center on the other hand dont keep much spare of cbr and they usually take 15days to order.




    Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?
    Hi Seamus,
    Thanks for the suggestion. I have come across a few CBRs here in Hyderabad, but many of them do not have ABS and those that have ABS have done a good deal of kms. I did go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick . While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
    I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two . I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth.

    Thanks in advance again folks !
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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post
    Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?
    The fuel pump is a non-serviceable unit by nature, but by all means they are 100% serviceable and cleanable. The fuel pump has a motor and a connector and that's about it, in layman's terms. A fuel pump is robust enough provided enough fuel is maintained so that the pump doesn't run dry, a dry tank and running will mean a pump that will go kaput soon, and CBR's doesn't come cheap, costing upwards of 12k. The pump can be serviced by a qualified technician if found faulty. Periodic replacement of fuel filter and maintaining adequate fuel level is all that modern FI bike needs for good service life.

    Hope it helps!

    Cheers!
    VJ
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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by RTRab View Post
    Hey CBR owners and fellow xBhpians,
    I'm new to this forum, hoping to be more regular. I am looking to purchase a second hand Honda CBR 250R. I currently own a TVS Apache RTR 160 4v and am looking to an upgrade to begin long distance highway touring. I recently rented a CBR 250R from Royal brothers in Hyderabad and I must say, being a 40k kms driven bike, the smooth and easy going nature of the engine enchanted me. The TVS Apache RTR 160 4v's engine is incredibly smooth, no doubt, but I found the CBR to be smoother and really confidence inspiring for tackling highways and covering the distance.
    I would really like any advice from owners on how it is to maintain a CBR 250R in the past 2021-2022, more specifically in terms of how the Honda service centers handle them, are the technicians familiar with it, how easily are spares available?
    I stay in Hyderabad so I'm hoping that it might not be an issue in maintaining it.
    Thanks in advance folks !

    "A bike at hand, a beautiful road in sight, now that is state of contentment ! "
    I am a very fresh owner, of used Cbr250r.

    And for service i prefer my trusted mechanic, deals in servicing higher cc bikes. Spare parts shouldnt be an issue as long as they mechanic knows from where to source. Honda service center on the other hand dont keep much spare of cbr and they usually take 15days to order.




    Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?

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  • Ratan Prabhu
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post
    Regular fuel makes the engine knock at those RPM. Hence i mixed regular fuel with XPS 100 and the knocking completly stopped now.
    Ohh.. that's something new. Will try it in my next refuel and see if I notice any difference.

    Congrats though... The bike looks very well maintained atleast from the appearance.
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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post

    4-4.5k RPM is fairly low for 5th and 6th gears. So the lugging/knocking will be evident.
    When you are in higher gears like 5/6, try to keep the RPMs above 4.5k... above 5k is ideal for higher gears.

    If still you facing the issue after keeping the RPMs above 4.5 to 5k, you should get it checked at the Honda ASC.
    I found out, the reason why this knocking happens. It was nothing but Spark-Knock because of the regular petrol.

    Regular fuel makes the engine knock at those RPM. Hence i mixed regular fuel with XPS 100 and the knocking completly stopped now.




    Took some more pictures Today. This bike's Pulling power is just amazing. Dont regret going for this discontinued Model. Still looks and pulls better than any other current Gen motorcycles.
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  • Ratan Prabhu
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    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post


    If you're looking for radial series, look for
    Apollo Alpha HI Apollo both front and rear
    110/70-17
    140/70-17
    Apollo Alpha H1 does not come in 140/70 size sadly. However, the 150/60 works fine on the CBR although I personally recommend sticking to stock tyre size. So in 140/70 size, there are not many options if you want radial.
    Michelin Pilot Street Radial 140/70 is a perfect choice but very rare to find due to import ban on it.

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  • Ratan Prabhu
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post
    There is engine knock sound coming. But only at 5th or 6th gear at 4-5000rpm when i full throttle, not at linear throttle. Or also at times when i climb hills.

    The sound is metalic & this sound doesnt come when idling.
    4-4.5k RPM is fairly low for 5th and 6th gears. So the lugging/knocking will be evident.
    When you are in higher gears like 5/6, try to keep the RPMs above 4.5k... above 5k is ideal for higher gears.

    If still you facing the issue after keeping the RPMs above 4.5 to 5k, you should get it checked at the Honda ASC.
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  • Seamus
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    There is engine knock sound coming. But only at 5th or 6th gear at 4-5000rpm when i full throttle, not at linear throttle. Or also at times when i climb hills.

    The sound is metalic & this sound doesnt come when idling.

    anybody knows how important is this to fix or can be ignored?

    Thanks

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post

    So am free to pick my poison. Here is the result, my Black Venom.

    Thankyou Blackthorn for clearing my doubts.

    Got myself 2015 ABS model. 1st owner 9000km on ODO Genuine Kms.

    First few impressions:

    In 250cc segment this bike pulls so cleanly.

    Also the 6th gear is so tall its actually a boon. To be honest thats how a 6th gear should be.
    Congratulations Seamus. A poison chosen well indeed. At 9000 on the odo, you've got yourself a good deal, hoping all the mechanicals and the rudimentary have been to satisfaction. The bike will pull cleanly all the way and the rush post 5.5 is addictive. With good torque low end torque barring the confusing gear ratios that sometimes can be a sore point on traffic. Keep the needle upwards of 5k and it's a different machine altogether and on highways, things can become a blur in no time.

    Those contigos on your bike are next to garbage and don't do justice to the bike. Replace them to Michelin Pilot Streets, and the confidence it inspires is one to feel.

    Ride safe and keep it in good shape, and it will last a decade!

    Cheers!
    VJ
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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

    Nissin offers great tactile feedback when compared to non ABS. It doesn't mean BYBRE unit on the non-ABS is bad, it was similar to how the brakes performed on an Apache RTR 180 at that time, the bite was sharp and good, but the progressive feel wasn't great. The NISSIN will let you know what exactly your pads were doing, especially during progressive braking which I loved. These calipers were really great to look at and the CBS system on the ABS model was a fantastically calibrated one and still is one of the best CBS systems out there in India. Regarding power, nothing, no difference, no changes, no nothing, pretty much everything remained the same. The updated CBR that was launched 2017-ish time frame had twin piston calipers, rather than the three piston from the old ones, updated LED lights and some livery updates that too after 10 years, but now the bike altogether has been discontinued as you are aware of. So, you are free to pick your poison.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    So am free to pick my poison. Here is the result, my Black Venom.

    Thankyou Blackthorn for clearing my doubts.

    Got myself 2015 ABS model. 1st owner 9000km on ODO Genuine Kms.

    First few impressions:

    In 250cc segment this bike pulls so cleanly.

    Also the 6th gear is so tall its actually a boon. To be honest thats how a 6th gear should be.

    Attached Files

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  • RTRab
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    Hey CBR owners and fellow xBhpians,
    I'm new to this forum, hoping to be more regular. I am looking to purchase a second hand Honda CBR 250R. I currently own a TVS Apache RTR 160 4v and am looking to an upgrade to begin long distance highway touring. I recently rented a CBR 250R from Royal brothers in Hyderabad and I must say, being a 40k kms driven bike, the smooth and easy going nature of the engine enchanted me. The TVS Apache RTR 160 4v's engine is incredibly smooth, no doubt, but I found the CBR to be smoother and really confidence inspiring for tackling highways and covering the distance.
    I would really like any advice from owners on how it is to maintain a CBR 250R in the past 2021-2022, more specifically in terms of how the Honda service centers handle them, are the technicians familiar with it, how easily are spares available?
    I stay in Hyderabad so I'm hoping that it might not be an issue in maintaining it.
    Thanks in advance folks !

    "A bike at hand, a beautiful road in sight, now that is state of contentment ! "

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post

    Have you noticed difference in Nissin vs Bybre model in terms of Brake Bite, Response? (excluding the ABS feel).

    Also 2011-14 Models vs The later ones, any difference in terms of engine(Power, Refinement, RPM Limit)??
    Nissin offers great tactile feedback when compared to non ABS. It doesn't mean BYBRE unit on the non-ABS is bad, it was similar to how the brakes performed on an Apache RTR 180 at that time, the bite was sharp and good, but the progressive feel wasn't great. The NISSIN will let you know what exactly your pads were doing, especially during progressive braking which I loved. These calipers were really great to look at and the CBS system on the ABS model was a fantastically calibrated one and still is one of the best CBS systems out there in India. Regarding power, nothing, no difference, no changes, no nothing, pretty much everything remained the same. The updated CBR that was launched 2017-ish time frame had twin piston calipers, rather than the three piston from the old ones, updated LED lights and some livery updates that too after 10 years, but now the bike altogether has been discontinued as you are aware of. So, you are free to pick your poison.

    Cheers!
    VJ
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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

    The caliper can be fixed, with some modifications and you should replace the rotor, the other lines from the caliper that goes to the ABS circuitry should be blocked with appropriate bolts. Good luck on your search.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Have you noticed difference in Nissin vs Bybre model in terms of Brake Bite, Response? (excluding the ABS feel).

    Also 2011-14 Models vs The later ones, any difference in terms of engine(Power, Refinement, RPM Limit)??

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post
    B7ACKTHORN Thankyou, I am actively looking for used CBR 250r ABS or non ABS in mumbai for a very reasonable price, maybe 50 - 55k. Was looking for 2012 to 2014 year. Could you please also tell me can the Nissin Calliper be used on Non ABS bike? I really like the 3 Pot Nissin.
    The caliper can be fixed, with some modifications and you should replace the rotor, the other lines from the caliper that goes to the ABS circuitry should be blocked with appropriate bolts. Good luck on your search.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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