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I guess you have done a very poor run-in. May I know in what rpm you shift and what rpm you maintain while riding?? In case you have done very poor run-in by lugging it you might have busted the piston rings and glazed the cylinder walls. And honda can easily find that.Originally posted by rahulyo View PostIts better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "
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I shift gear at 5000-6000 rpm . I rev it hard only some times (may be 5-6 times in a year).Originally posted by siddharthsure View PostI guess you have done a very poor run-in. May I know in what rpm you shift and what rpm you maintain while riding?? In case you have done very poor run-in by lugging it you might have busted the piston rings and glazed the cylinder walls. And honda can easily find that.
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There you go, you must have been lugging in the higher gears. You haven't understood the engine, I shift right now at 7, after first service I will do at 8, tht's wht people here recommend and tht's wht I think the engine is comfortable at. Also, this is why you feel splendor has more power, you are nt riding properly. Should have done your research before buying. I never felt bike is very short on pwer at the low end because I knew I have to rev it.Originally posted by rahulyo View PostI shift gear at 5000-6000 rpm . I rev it hard only some times (may be 5-6 times in a year).
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Bro whnever i rev the bike it vibrates n rattling sound come( 4000+ rpm) . Then how could i enjoy riding ?Originally posted by Akash Makkar View PostThere you go, you must have been lugging in the higher gears. You haven't understood the engine, I shift right now at 7, after first service I will do at 8, tht's wht people here recommend and tht's wht I think the engine is comfortable at. Also, this is why you feel splendor has more power, you are nt riding properly. Should have done your research before buying. I never felt bike is very short on pwer at the low end because I knew I have to rev it.Last edited by rahulyo; 10-15-2013, 11:15 AM.
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Take it to a recommended svc in Mumbai(assuming you are close to Mumbai). Mumbai cbr owners can help you on this.Originally posted by rahulyo View PostBro whnever i rev the bike it vibrates n rattling sound come. Then how could i enjoy riding ?
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Originally posted by rahulyo View PostLots of CBR 150 users suggests here that this bike need to rev hard/high . So i decided to rev hard/high(6000-7000 rpm), But my decision turns into nightmare . At morning i try to rev it hard Bike vibrates like hell and black smoke start coming from the exhaust . So i turn off the bike and wait some time then try to start the bike but bike refuse to start. After lots of trying it get start .
Anyone face this issue ?Dude, there are 3 mistakes that you have done so far. Correct them now on.Originally posted by rahulyo View PostI shift gear at 5000-6000 rpm . I rev it hard only some times (may be 5-6 times in a year).
1. Practice idling the engine for 30-45 sec every morning before starting out. This would ensure that engine components do not run dry.
2. Do not rev hard immediately after idling either. Hold your horses for 1-2 kms and then you can ride as you wish.
3. Until run in completes, do not lug the engine (in fact, one must never lug the engine) or over rev the engine. Upshifting at 4-6k before first service should be fine. The torque is low, but not as low as you are making it sound like.Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
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1. Every morning i start the bike n keep it on for 1-2 mins. (Till the temperature gauge show 1 bar ). I put a small brick below side stand so it stand straight all the time . Doing this bcoz of low space.Originally posted by Divya Sharan View PostDude, there are 3 mistakes that you have done so far. Correct them now on.
1. Practice idling the engine for 30-45 sec every morning before starting out. This would ensure that engine components do not run dry.
2. Do not rev hard immediately after idling either. Hold your horses for 1-2 kms and then you can ride as you wish.
3. Until run in completes, do not lug the engine (in fact, one must never lug the engine) or over rev the engine. Upshifting at 4-6k before first service should be fine. The torque is low, but not as low as you are making it sound like.
2. No . I never run hard after idling .
3. I always drive bike in speed limit 45-60 . (only 5-6 time i cross the speed 80 in a year).Last edited by rahulyo; 10-15-2013, 11:34 AM.
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I have no idea why everyone is pointing out your mistake, i dont think the engine will lug at 5-6k rpm. If you would have said 2-3k rpm, i would have told you to buy a splendor or passion. But dude, 5-6k rpm, the engine does not lug. And why would a person even think of going to 11.5k rpm when the vibrations are heavy at 4k itself. It will instead worsen things up, just as he mentioned that when he revved hard, black smoke appeared.Originally posted by rahulyo View Post1. Every morning i idling the bike for 1-2 mins. (Till the temperature gauge show 1 bar )
2. No . I never run hard after idling .
3. I always drive bike in speed limit 45-60 . (only 5-6 time i cross the speed 80 in a year).
Its just like "if i rev hard, black smoke and super vibrations, if i rev less, people on xbhp blame me for engine lug" what to do?
Well, this is the last time im telling you dude, go for engine flushing (to remove any metal debris from engine) and change the oil. If doesnt help, go to svc claim warranty (dont say that you did engine flushing or changed oil on your own
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And seriously, if you are looking forward to sell it, do let me know.
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Ok, nice that you practice the idling rule. You do 45-60 in 6th gear? If yes, then that might cause engine knocking.Originally posted by rahulyo View Post3. I always drive bike in speed limit 45-60 . (only 5-6 time i cross the speed 80 in a year).
Get the engine oil changed aong with the oil filter and report back.Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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@viks- Dude, you don't have a Cbr, engine will lug at higher gears if he keeps shifting at 5-6k rpm, this is also made clear by the fact tht he says splendor has more power thn Cbr. He gets vibrations now after one year of riding the bike with engine lugging sometimes! Chinmayakar, which bike do you have? Duke n Cbr are not the same bikes. He himself says the bikes feels slower than a splendor! What more evidence do you want that the engine is lugging! Splendor! baby blade tops at 145 and hits 100 before R15 and he says it is slower than a splendor! Lugging.Originally posted by viks View PostI have no idea why everyone is pointing out your mistake, i dont think the engine will lug at 5-6k rpm. If you would have said 2-3k rpm, i would have told you to buy a splendor or passion. But dude, 5-6k rpm, the engine does not lug. And why would a person even think of going to 11.5k rpm when the vibrations are heavy at 4k itself. It will instead worsen things up, just as he mentioned that when he revved hard, black smoke appeared.
Its just like "if i rev hard, black smoke and super vibrations, if i rev less, people on xbhp blame me for engine lug" what to do?
Well, this is the last time im telling you dude, go for engine flushing (to remove any metal debris from engine) and change the oil. If doesnt help, go to svc claim warranty (dont say that you did engine flushing or changed oil on your own
)
And seriously, if you are looking forward to sell it, do let me know.
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I did another ride on highway yesterday, and I tried shifting at 5k, bike in third gear, lugging one hundred percent! Let those who have a cbr advice him.
The first gear of Cbr tops at around 45, second at 75! Shifting at 5k means 3rd gear at around 30, one hundred percent lugging. I was shifting into 3rd at 40 till now and I have decided to do it around 44 now because the engine is opening up as I rev it more. He is riding it at 30, for a year!
This bike doesn't have a speed limit for run-in! Did you read the manual, all it says is to avoid full throttle starts and sudden bursts of acceleration. His bike is in a bad condition now because he hasn't been riding it properly for a year! He should have bought a splendor only if he wanted to go over 60 5 or 6 times a year. Engine is the specialty of Cbr! Engine is what we are paying for, Honda has cut costs on everything else. SVC people might not care about your bike and appear stupid to you, but they'll know you have had the bike done frm outside and void your warranty. Don't listen to people who don't even have a Cbr. He was supposed to rev it frm the start. Baby Blade wakes up after 8k, ask anyone who knows how to ride this bike, after 8k the bike gets a sudden boost and powers ahead.
Once I have driven my bike for 10 minutes, I take it to 9-10k without trouble, it doesn't harm the engine, engine is built for that exact purpose! You are driving it like splendor, one year of that, that has to have a negative effect.Last edited by Akash Makkar; 10-15-2013, 12:28 PM.
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Here we go again, one more debate. Sorry guys, i never knew that not owning a cbr will make me look stupid on this forumOriginally posted by Akash Makkar View PostDude, you don't have a Cbr, engine will lug at higher gears if he keeps shifting at 5-6k rpm, this is also made clear by the fact tht he says splendor has more power thn Cbr. He gets vibrations now after one year of riding the bike with engine lugging sometimes!
This bike doesn't have a speed limit for run-in! Did you read the manual, all it says is to avoid full throttle starts and sudden bursts of acceleration. His bike is in a bad condition now because he hasn't been riding it properly for a year! He should have bought a splendor only if he wanted to go over 60 5 or 6 times a year. Engine is the specialty of Cbr! Engine is what we are paying for, Honda has cut costs on everything else. SVC people might not care about your bike and appear stupid to you, but they'll know you have had the bike done frm outside and void your warranty. Don't listen to people who don't even have a Cbr. He was supposed to rev it frm the start. Baby Blade wakes up after 8k, ask anyone who knows how to ride this bike, after 8k the bike gets a sudden boost and powers ahead.
Once I have driven my bike for 10 minutes, I take it to 9-10k without trouble, it doesn't harm the engine, engine is built for that exact purpose! You are driving it like splendor, one year of that, that has to have a negative effect.
Seems that was the last input from my side. Happy revving!!
And by the way, who are you, akash? Admin? Creator of CBR? God?
Doesnt matter who you are, just one thing, i dont have an itch to type such long posts on my phone with the pathetic touch qwerty keypad, neither do i get paid fir it. It was just a small piece of help from my side according to my very little 12 years of biking experience.
Oh by the way, i always had a liking for cbr, i was 15 when i rode a cbr 600.
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I am someone who has read the the entire thread ownership thread of baby Blade, and I have the bike. This is an ownership thread, let owners advice him, you don't know this bike as well as owners do.Originally posted by viks View PostHere we go again, one more debate. Sorry guys, i never knew that not owning a cbr will make me look stupid on this forum
Seems that was the last input from my side. Happy revving!!
And by the way, who are you, akash? Admin? Creator of CBR? God?
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Just because you have driven a bike, doesn't mean you know it, Cbr 150 n 600 are very different bike inspite of being Cbrs. Even 250 n 150 are different, 250 has much more power and doesn't need to revved like 150 does to get the best frm this bike. Please let this remain an owners' thread, let's owners recommend him, what you are suggesting will harm him more. Honda looks for reasons to void warranty and you are suggesting him to get his bike done outside, especially when he is having so many problems, he needs the warranty!Last edited by Akash Makkar; 10-15-2013, 12:37 PM.
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Yes!! Absolutely right. Its a short stroke engine and it revs crazily high without breaking sweat. I drove it once and its rpm shoots like a rocket. I shifted to 2nd gear at 6k rpm and suddenly I felt the bike is slow. Asked the svc guy and he asked me to shift at higher rpm. Next time shifted at 7k and it was perfect. And 7k rpm felt like 5k rpm in R15. And this is the point I decided cbr is not for me. Its for highway riding. So went for R15. Saying this because you should have done this research before buying. You know you are not going over 70kmph. Then I dunno how you chose this machine. It always loves to be above that rangeOriginally posted by Akash Makkar View Post@viks- Dude, you don't have a Cbr, engine will lug at higher gears if he keeps shifting at 5-6k rpm, this is also made clear by the fact tht he says splendor has more power thn Cbr. He gets vibrations now after one year of riding the bike with engine lugging sometimes! Chinmayakar, which bike do you have? Duke n Cbr are not the same bikes. He himself says the bikes feels slower than a splendor! What more evidence do you want that the engine is lugging! Splendor! baby blade tops at 145 and hits 100 before R15 and he says it is slower than a splendor! Lugging.
I did another ride on highway yesterday, and I tried shifting at 5k, bike in third gear, lugging one hundred percent! Let those who have a cbr advice him.
The first gear of Cbr tops at around 45, second at 75! Shifting at 5k means 3rd gear at around 30, one hundred percent lugging. I was shifting into 3rd at 40 till now and I have decided to do it around 44 now because the engine is opening up as I rev it more. He is riding it at 30, for a year!
This bike doesn't have a speed limit for run-in! Did you read the manual, all it says is to avoid full throttle starts and sudden bursts of acceleration. His bike is in a bad condition now because he hasn't been riding it properly for a year! He should have bought a splendor only if he wanted to go over 60 5 or 6 times a year. Engine is the specialty of Cbr! Engine is what we are paying for, Honda has cut costs on everything else. SVC people might not care about your bike and appear stupid to you, but they'll know you have had the bike done frm outside and void your warranty. Don't listen to people who don't even have a Cbr. He was supposed to rev it frm the start. Baby Blade wakes up after 8k, ask anyone who knows how to ride this bike, after 8k the bike gets a sudden boost and powers ahead.
Once I have driven my bike for 10 minutes, I take it to 9-10k without trouble, it doesn't harm the engine, engine is built for that exact purpose! You are driving it like splendor, one year of that, that has to have a negative effect.
Its not like D200 or zmr or R15 guys. It lugs at 5k rpm seriously. But its one hell of an engine if you know how to use itLast edited by siddharthsure; 10-15-2013, 12:41 PM.Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "
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Exactly, that's what everyone who knows this bike recommends, 6-7k when you it's new, and rise slowly as the engine opens up. I idle and then ride it gently for 10 minutes, then I start revving it more slowly and then even 7 feels less, I shift at 8k after like 20 minutes.Originally posted by siddharthsure View PostYes!! Absolutely right. Its a short stroke engine and it revs crazily high without breaking sweat. I drove it once and it rpm shoots like a rocket. I shifted to 2nd gear at 6k rpm and suddenly I felt the bike is slow. Asked the svc guy and he asked me to shift at higher rpm. Next time shifted at 7k and it was perfect. And 7k rpm felt like 5k rpm in R15. And this is the point I decided cbr is not for me. Its for highway riding. So went for R15. Saying this because you should have done this research before buying. You know you are not going over 70kmph. Then I dunno how you chose this machine. It always loves to be above that range
I don't like driving rash anyways in traffic, but I like having power to go fast when I see a safe cut, Cbr was perfect for me, it is an all rounder once you know how to ride it. I have done 100 on highway, no vibes! But yeah, the nut of rear view mirror came off, so tht's disappointing, I am dropping some mails to Honda soon, I dnt like tht.
If the previous version of R15 was available, I would have taken that. I needed a usable pillion seat.Last edited by Akash Makkar; 10-15-2013, 12:46 PM.
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