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  • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    Mulli, can you explain me the buzz sound you guys are talking about. There is a buzz in my bike when I switch on the ignition. (for 3-4 seconds whilst the console shows/does all its premilinary checks). Do you guys get the buzz sound even after that?
    If no, then that's perfectly normal. Its the Fuel Pump and FI module doing their job during startup. Happens to me even after 36k kms and that's absolutely normal.
    As already Siddarth explained, its a fuel pump noise. I get this sound once I start the ignition key. Nowadays, I dont even hear it now since I recently fixed a fuel lock up issue in my bike in the SVC. IF I take my bike daily, I dont hear it. The buzz comes now and then! ITs normal. Dont fear about it.

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    Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
    Bro whnever i rev the bike it vibrates n rattling sound come( 4000+ rpm) . Then how could i enjoy riding ?
    During run-in, the bike vibrates a lot. The vibrations will come even in 6.5k, but after the run in is properly followed till the recommended period, it should not come.

    I actually took the bike for a very long tour during run-in after 450 kms. I never went above 70 for 1500 kms. I still had vibes when I went above 80 after 1500kms! If u lug too much, the improper gear shifts will happen and the engine will never be set properly.

    P.S: this is not a COMMUTER bike like Splendor! The CBR hits 43 kmph in first gear for me. I doubt splendor will hit that mark in first gear. But even if it does, it cant be done always but CBR is built for that kind of torture!

    Immediately change the SVC as they seems notorious for stealing money. I don't think that Honda is so stupid in making the fuel pump so worthless so that ur SVC changed it 3 times!

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    Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
    Yes!! Absolutely right. Its a short stroke engine and it revs crazily high without breaking sweat. I drove it once and its rpm shoots like a rocket. I shifted to 2nd gear at 6k rpm and suddenly I felt the bike is slow. Asked the svc guy and he asked me to shift at higher rpm. Next time shifted at 7k and it was perfect. And 7k rpm felt like 5k rpm in R15. And this is the point I decided cbr is not for me. Its for highway riding. So went for R15. Saying this because you should have done this research before buying. You know you are not going over 70kmph. Then I dunno how you chose this machine. It always loves to be above that range

    Its not like D200 or zmr or R15 guys. It lugs at 5k rpm seriously. But its one hell of an engine if you know how to use it
    Exactly! This is a pure highway riding bike and Im doing exactly that. I never felt any issues in highway.

    Your 5k lug will happen when u ride at 100 kmph in 6th and suddenly u brake hard(panic braking) and ur in some 30 kmph. IF the bike is in second gear or third gear at that time, you will experience a lack of power(may feel it as lug). Even gear may get struck during this situation. I had this experience a lot of times!
    Last edited by mulli84; 10-15-2013, 02:24 PM.
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    • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

      Thanks guys for suggestions (blames) . No one thinks in my point of view . Fine . Just give me the answer of following questions pls :-

      Assume that u buy a new bike after 5-6 months hard research . And from 1st day that bike start giving u lots of problems . 2nd day u wake up, start the bike n f*k that bike not start at all , u call SVC guys they say "Battery gone" now tell me how u feel ?

      After 1st servicing bike start vibrating more n more whn u increase the RPM + Rattling sound from faring . Just imagine vibrations + rattling sound n suddenly tht irritating buzzing sound starts . Tell me how u feel ?

      This vibrations + rattling sound + buzzing sounds +gear shifting problems . For solving buzzing sound problem chng 3 times fuel pump , For gear problem chng gear shifter 2 times , And for solving rattling sound they use feviquick + cardboard (WTF) . Still all problems remain same even after 4th servicing . N whn u ask abt it all says it is bike's characteristics , we cant do anything . After hear this how u feel ?

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        Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
        Thanks guys for suggestions (blames) . No one thinks in my point of view . Fine . Just give me the answer of following questions pls :-

        Assume that u buy a new bike after 5-6 months hard research . And from 1st day that bike start giving u lots of problems . 2nd day u wake up, start the bike n f*k that bike not start at all , u call SVC guys they say "Battery gone" now tell me how u feel ?

        After 1st servicing bike start vibrating more n more whn u increase the RPM + Rattling sound from faring . Just imagine vibrations + rattling sound n suddenly tht irritating buzzing sound starts . Tell me how u feel ?

        This vibrations + rattling sound + buzzing sounds +gear shifting problems . For solving buzzing sound problem chng 3 times fuel pump , For gear problem chng gear shifter 2 times , And for solving rattling sound they use feviquick + cardboard (WTF) . Still all problems remain same even after 4th servicing . N whn u ask abt it all says it is bike's characteristics , we cant do anything . After hear this how u feel ?
        Rahulyo, forgive me for being harsh, but I think you are not good at research, 5 months of research and you still didn't know tht FI engines, especially Cbr makes the irritating buzz sound and it's nothing to worry about, the mechanics ripped you off, most probably they changed nothing. Your gear problems might be because you have never been at the proper rpm range for gear shifting, this is evidenced by the fact that you go to higher rpms 5 or 6 times a year. Also you yourself stated tht high rpm is above 5-6k, this makes me doubt your research again. Everyr eview of the bike mentions that it is high revving, every single one. Also, a new battery needs to be charged, you need to drive some kilometers, tht's wht they told me to do. And sometimes problems can occur in any machine, doesn't matter which manufacturer.

        If you didn't do a proper run in, problems will obviously occur, you cannot put all the blame on SVC, yes they suck, but you too didn't do the run in properly. Engine being taken high for the first time will vibrate a bit, then become smooth, although, in my bike, there are very few vibes, the sound frm the engine resonates and creates some vibes but I don't feel them at all while riding. It was a bit rough initially at above 8k, but now it's smooth, right till 10k, haven't gone to the max limit.
        [MENTION=51345]mulli84[/MENTION]- Engine lug doesn't have to be extreme, what I understood frm reading about it, not being in the proper power band affects the engine. Rahulyo hasn't been in the proper power band for gear shifting for a year! It's obvious tht problems will occur. I think driving Cbr at 30 in 6 th gear is impossible. Never tried it though, never will. Like I said, I shifted to third at 30kmph, engine was struggling, tht has to have a negative effect.
        Last edited by Akash Makkar; 10-15-2013, 05:00 PM.

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        • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

          Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
          Thanks guys for suggestions (blames) . No one thinks in my point of view . Fine . Just give me the answer of following questions pls :-

          Assume that u buy a new bike after 5-6 months hard research . And from 1st day that bike start giving u lots of problems . 2nd day u wake up, start the bike n f*k that bike not start at all , u call SVC guys they say "Battery gone" now tell me how u feel ?

          After 1st servicing bike start vibrating more n more whn u increase the RPM + Rattling sound from faring . Just imagine vibrations + rattling sound n suddenly tht irritating buzzing sound starts . Tell me how u feel ?

          This vibrations + rattling sound + buzzing sounds +gear shifting problems . For solving buzzing sound problem chng 3 times fuel pump , For gear problem chng gear shifter 2 times , And for solving rattling sound they use feviquick + cardboard (WTF) . Still all problems remain same even after 4th servicing . N whn u ask abt it all says it is bike's characteristics , we cant do anything . After hear this how u feel ?
          So where did you bang your head after reading the "help" provided on this "ownership thread"

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          • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

            6.5k odo on this machine. Still getting the "tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" sound once i put in the ignition, and it fades but keeps coming even after starting the engine.
            I kinda like that sound now. Feels like I am flying a plane.
            And i miss that sound when i ride someone else's bike :P

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            • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

              Originally posted by viks View Post
              So where did you bang your head after reading the "help" provided on this "ownership thread"

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              If he did what you said, got it checked outside and then get his warranty voided, and then spend a lot on the replacement part, he would have been looking for your head to bang, so be nice, and say thank you.

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              • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                Originally posted by Akash Makkar View Post
                Rahulyo, forgive me for being harsh, but I think you are not good at research, 5 months of research and you still didn't know tht FI engines, especially Cbr makes the irritating buzz sound and it's nothing to worry about, the mechanics ripped you off, most probably they changed nothing. Your gear problems might be because you have never been at the proper rpm range for gear shifting, this is evidenced by the fact that you go to higher rpms 5 or 6 times a year. Also you yourself stated tht high rpm is above 5-6k, this makes me doubt your research again. Every review of the bike mentions that it is high revving, every single one. Also, a new battery needs to be charged, you need to drive some kilometers, tht's wht they told me to do. And sometimes problems can occur in any machine, doesn't matter which manufacturer.

                If you didn't do a proper run in, problems will obviously occur, you cannot put all the blame on SVC, yes they suck, but you too didn't do the run in properly. Engine being taken high for the first time will vibrate a bit, then become smooth, although, in my bike, there are very few vibes, the sound frm the engine resonates and creates some vibes but I don't feel them at all while riding. It was a bit rough initially at above 8k, but now it's smooth, right till 10k, haven't gone to the max limit.
                @mulli84- Engine lug doesn't have to be extreme, what I understood frm reading about it, not being in the proper power band affects the engine. Rahulyo hasn't been in the proper power band for gear shifting for a year! It's obvious tht problems will occur. I think driving Cbr at 30 in 6 th gear is impossible. Never tried it though, never will. Like I said, I shifted to third at 30kmph, engine was struggling, tht has to have a negative effect.
                All shouting on me that u didnt maintain this bike well , didnt do proper run in . But tell me if u getting problems from 1st day n even after 1year u unable to get solution then what u do ?

                My friend who have CBR150 he also change gears at 5000-6000 rpm but his bike is FINE . Actually we took bike at same day follow same run in procedure .Complete each n every servicing in time. Still i facing problem y ?

                And i want to clear 1 more thing to all , I NEVER service my bike from OUTSIDE .

                I face 2 problems in gear shifting 1. gear slipping 2. When i decrease the speed n try to down the gear suddenly it get stuck (Unable to shift gear up or down)

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                • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                  Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
                  All shouting on me that u didnt maintain this bike well , didnt do proper run in . But tell me if u getting problems from 1st day n even after 1year u unable to get solution then what u do ?

                  My friend who have CBR150 he also change gears at 5000-6000 rpm but his bike is FINE . Actually we took bike at same day follow same run in procedure .Complete each n every servicing in time. Still i facing problem y ?

                  And i want to clear 1 more thing to all , I NEVER service my bike from OUTSIDE .

                  I face 2 problems in gear shifting 1. gear slipping 2. When i decrease the speed n try to down the gear suddenly it get stuck (Unable to shift gear up or down)
                  I read in the 1st few pages of this thread and the guy who started this forum kept the bike below 5000 rpm. His username is catchdebanjan. Ask him about the run in details. Maybe you got a lemon.
                  Im not asking you to get things done from outside. I just suggested few DIYs. Never asked you to open the engine head or any such thing. I believe engine flushing and oil changing are DIYs.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                    Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
                    All shouting on me that u didnt maintain this bike well , didnt do proper run in . But tell me if u getting problems from 1st day n even after 1year u unable to get solution then what u do ?

                    My friend who have CBR150 he also change gears at 5000-6000 rpm but his bike is FINE . Actually we took bike at same day follow same run in procedure .Complete each n every servicing in time. Still i facing problem y ?

                    And i want to clear 1 more thing to all , I NEVER service my bike from OUTSIDE .

                    I face 2 problems in gear shifting 1. gear slipping 2. When i decrease the speed n try to down the gear suddenly it get stuck (Unable to shift gear up or down)
                    I can feel ur agony, Rahul! We are not blaming. Anyway u cant change the past. Try to change the SVC and think it might work! As noted in the manual, we can get to speeds above 80 kmph during run-in and even go above 8k, but it has to be done gradually.

                    5-6k rpm maintaining is good, but not always. The bike needs to be ridden by varying rpm`s now and then. WE cant always ride her smooth. This bike has a very wide power band and the engine needs to handle all.

                    P.S: In my opinion, the Honda CBR engine is not smooth, but really aggressive and I like it! She wont be smooth after 8k rpm
                    Last edited by mulli84; 10-15-2013, 07:55 PM.
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                    • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                      OK so many guys are facing the gear changing problem. Mine stays smooth for the 1st month after servicing, and again starts getting stuck after that.
                      Is there any DIY, like oiling/greasing some part so that this can be minimized by myself instead of the SVC guys?

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                        Whoa..!!!! What happened to this thread....

                        I visited this thread before few days and it was totally dead but now it's full of debates....

                        I think I should enter this, bcoz i'm lot like rahulyo.

                        @R
                        ahulya....Man I blamed CBR150 like hell before 5 days

                        About me.
                        1) I hate cleaning my bike
                        2) I hate DIY
                        3) I hate stoping at fuel station
                        4) I hate every honda SVC in this world

                        This doesn't mean that that I didn't love my bike. I love it more than loving my GF.

                        I gave my bike for second service last week...I yelled at the Manager and handed him a list of complaints.

                        1) My Bike used to be hot like cooker when I stop at signals.
                        2) Foul smell of oil burning in radiator.
                        3) Annoying humming sound from fuel pump.
                        4) Seat lock issues and tail light fuse

                        All happens within 2 months...(I believe you might have understood my maintenance of bike)

                        I don't know what these service guys did but after I took my bike from SVC I was jaw opened to see the smooth performance of my bike as a new one...This is Honda man...Still I dont understand why these issues occured , I tried to ask the mechanic at JSP honda but he turned deaf ear as I yelled at him previously.

                        About the lugging.....
                        I was advised to ride at slower speed in this thread.
                        I am not a geek at engines but i used to cruise at redlines. I never felt lugging. I usually shift to higher gears around 6.5 to 7.5k rpm..I think those who criticize about lugging should live with this bike for a week...At first, When I switched from my Apache, I was like,"WTF, why I have paid 1.4L for this stupid bike, My Apache is powerful than this." But after learning to ride this bike now I understand the worth of 1.4L Engine...

                        IMP: 1)The humming noise from fuel pump didn't got rectified and It is not normal.
                        2) Please explain why my bike undergone all the above issues (foul smell, overheating, humming)

                        P.S: Why someone is buying a CBR if they love to ride the bike around 60's and goes to 100 only once in a year?
                        Last edited by Joel.r; 10-16-2013, 09:40 AM.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                          Originally posted by Dhiman Jyoti Sarmah View Post
                          OK so many guys are facing the gear changing problem. Mine stays smooth for the 1st month after servicing, and again starts getting stuck after that.
                          Is there any DIY, like oiling/greasing some part so that this can be minimized by myself instead of the SVC guys?
                          Try a more viscous grade of oil. What oil are you using? 10w30? Wait till your warranty period and then move to a higher grade like 15w40 or something. Even vibes would decrease.
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                          • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                            Originally posted by Joel.r View Post
                            Whoa..!!!! What happened to this thread....

                            I visited this thread before few days and it was totally dead but now it's full of debates....

                            I think I should enter this, bcoz i'm lot like rahulyo.

                            @R
                            ahulya....Man I blamed CBR150 like hell before 5 days

                            About me.
                            1) I hate cleaning my bike
                            2) I hate DIY
                            3) I hate stoping at fuel station
                            4) I hate every honda SVC in this world

                            This doesn't mean that that I didn't love my bike. I love it more than loving my GF.

                            I gave my bike for second service last week...I yelled at the Manager and handed him a list of complaints.

                            1) My Bike used to be hot like cooker when I stop at signals.
                            2) Foul smell of oil burning in radiator.
                            3) Annoying humming sound from fuel pump.
                            4) Seat lock issues and tail light fuse

                            All happens within 2 months...(I believe you might have understood my maintenance of bike)

                            I don't know what these service guys did but after I took my bike from SVC I was jaw opened to see the smooth performance of my bike as a new one...This is Honda man...Still I dont understand why these issues occured , I tried to ask the mechanic at JSP honda but he turned deaf ear as I yelled at him previously.

                            About the lugging.....
                            I was advised to ride at slower speed in this thread.
                            I am not a geek at engines but i used to cruise at redlines. I never felt lugging. I usually shift to higher gears around 6.5 to 7.5k rpm..I think those who criticize about lugging should live with this bike for a week...At first, When I switched from my Apache, I was like,"WTF, why I have paid 1.4L for this stupid bike, My Apache is powerful than this." But after learning to ride this bike now I understand the worth of 1.4L Engine...

                            IMP: 1)The humming noise from fuel pump didn't got rectified and It is not normal.
                            2) Please explain why my bike undergone all the above issues (foul smell, overheating, humming)

                            P.S: Why someone is buying a CBR if they love to ride the bike around 60's and goes to 100 only once in a year?
                            Thanks For reply bro.

                            My height is 6.1 ft . I tried R15 v2 but it is very uncomfortable so i choose CBR150 over it . I also like to drive bike high speed (like i do with my fazer , pulsar 180 ). But whenever i try to drive CBR at higher speed all get f*kd up. It start vibrating like hell + Rattling sound from the fairing . This sounds horrible. At the speed of 45-60 bike vibs n rattling sound are low, Thr4 i ride it in 45-60 .

                            Yaar 1.4lac dalneke baad bhi u cant go beyond 60, think how can i feel. I want to enjoy this bike but it not perform like other CBR150's so what i do ?

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                              Originally posted by rahulyo View Post
                              Thanks For reply bro.

                              My height is 6.1 ft . I tried R15 v2 but it is very uncomfortable so i choose CBR150 over it . I also like to drive bike high speed (like i do with my fazer , pulsar 180 ). But whenever i try to drive CBR at higher speed all get f*kd up. It start vibrating like hell + Rattling sound from the fairing . This sounds horrible. At the speed of 45-60 bike vibs n rattling sound are low, Thr4 i ride it in 45-60 .

                              Yaar 1.4lac dalneke baad bhi u cant go beyond 60, think how can i feel. I want to enjoy this bike but it not perform like other CBR150's so what i do ?
                              Why not writing an email directly to honda india.. i hope they will respond quickly and fix all the issues..

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 150 R

                                Originally posted by Joel.r View Post
                                Whoa..!!!! What happened to this thread....

                                I visited this thread before few days and it was totally dead but now it's full of debates....

                                I think I should enter this, bcoz i'm lot like rahulyo.

                                @R
                                ahulya....Man I blamed CBR150 like hell before 5 days

                                About me.
                                1) I hate cleaning my bike
                                2) I hate DIY
                                3) I hate stoping at fuel station
                                4) I hate every honda SVC in this world

                                This doesn't mean that that I didn't love my bike. I love it more than loving my GF.

                                I gave my bike for second service last week...I yelled at the Manager and handed him a list of complaints.

                                1) My Bike used to be hot like cooker when I stop at signals.
                                2) Foul smell of oil burning in radiator.
                                3) Annoying humming sound from fuel pump.
                                4) Seat lock issues and tail light fuse

                                All happens within 2 months...(I believe you might have understood my maintenance of bike)

                                I don't know what these service guys did but after I took my bike from SVC I was jaw opened to see the smooth performance of my bike as a new one...This is Honda man...Still I dont understand why these issues occured , I tried to ask the mechanic at JSP honda but he turned deaf ear as I yelled at him previously.

                                About the lugging.....
                                I was advised to ride at slower speed in this thread.
                                I am not a geek at engines but i used to cruise at redlines. I never felt lugging. I usually shift to higher gears around 6.5 to 7.5k rpm..I think those who criticize about lugging should live with this bike for a week...At first, When I switched from my Apache, I was like,"WTF, why I have paid 1.4L for this stupid bike, My Apache is powerful than this." But after learning to ride this bike now I understand the worth of 1.4L Engine...

                                IMP: 1)The humming noise from fuel pump didn't got rectified and It is not normal.
                                2) Please explain why my bike undergone all the above issues (foul smell, overheating, humming)

                                P.S: Why someone is buying a CBR if they love to ride the bike around 60's and goes to 100 only once in a year?
                                1)The humming sound is normal! Happens in R15 too.
                                2) I think you might have been low on coolant, did you check your coolant level? There can be many reasons behind the smell, some people get it after riding in rain, or something leaked.
                                [MENTION=30767]rahulyo[/MENTION]- Dude, stop asking for sympathy. You are blaming the bike, trying to make it perform after mistreating it for a year! Now you are trying to take it to high rpms n it's not performing, don't try and change your statements that bike hasn't been performing frm the start, you yourself said you take highe only 5 or 6 times a year, no was even blaming you at that point.

                                Go to the service center, put pressure on them, ask them to get the manager, get tough with him and alos ask fr the email id of higher authorities. If your problems get solved, start taking it to higher rpms after the engine is a bit warm, but slowly, make it get used to it.

                                About the rattling problem, did you check all the nuts?
                                You can read about rattling problem sin Cbr250, I think tht had more issues of rattling than 150 so might find something useful there. Stop asking for sympathy and focus your attention on getting the bike right and then riding properly.

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