Re: Kawasaki Ninja 300 Ownership Experience

Have seen atleast a dozen cases for this. 150 section rear tyre, a pillion and a big speed breaker can wave goodbye to the oil pan. The oil pan costed around 4k . Kawasaki Bangalore are clueless because they never took Ninja 300 for service until now. the KTM Indiranagar and other famous ones in Bengaluru knows this issue very well, but its too late to order from them as well. KTM's in metro cities used to stock this part very well, as I do remember getting one for a friend in Kerala from KTM Indiranagar(Bangalore).

You keep following up with him, send a mail to [email protected] , message to their FB page(which usually gives me reply) and wait. No other options other than this to procure parts from Kawasaki India. And for the next bet, as [MENTION=63028]Akshay Sai[/MENTION]d, Vikram from Motozone(Ph:9975607055) could very well help you out with aftermarket parts.
The next option would be 'slipstream performance', pune . They services all Ninja's and do have stock of many parts if you get your bike there. But I am not sure they will send the parts across India, you may need to convince them. Attaching their details here. Hope it helps.

78, Viman Nagar Rd, Konark Nagar, Sakore Nagar, Viman Nagar, Pune, Maharashtra 411014
098813 41144 ,
020 4120 3816

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Thanks again @Ivin

Looks like its a hard road ahead; nonetheless will do as suggested and will see as to how it goes

Cheers,
Queensyrche

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On the contrary, it has less to do with so called "back pressure".

The fact is that through the 80s & 90s motorcycle manufacturers did not pay as much attention to exhaust systems as they did on the development of the engine. For example, elaborate attention was lavished on pistons, piston crowns, heads, combustion chamber shape, etc. Whereas the exhaust system, while not exactly an after thought was still only paid attention to the point that it could meet the engine's planned power output requirement. This was simply because there were no emission & sound norms in the 80s. Thus there was enough margin for improvement that when an optimized aftermarket exhaust system (along with the right fueling) was installed, it gave a 15 to 25% increase in performance.

However, the above certainly does not mean that the aftermarket exhaust makers had some extraordinary knowledge bank. It's just that engineers in the R&D departments of bike manufacturers had selected to concentrate in other areas of development.

The advent of tighter emission norms in the mid 90s compelled engineers to add catalytic converters in the exhaust systems. Initially the addition of the cat cons added significant restriction to gas flow and drop in performance. The cat cons were also heavy and inefficient, leading to significantly heavy exhaust systems.

The problem proved significant enough that engineers started working on optimizing exhaust systems to minimize the effects of the cat cons on performance while meeting emission & sound norms. Also with each generation of design getting optimized, the cat cons became lighter, more efficient and less restrictive. Therefore, while it is true that decoring early generations of exhaust with cat cons gave some improvements, with the current generation of exhaust system it no longer holds true.

The current generation of stock exhaust system is highly efficient and has a minimal loss of power. For example, in stock form the N300 will make about 34 to 35 rear wheel horsepower. With an aftermarket full exhaust system & fueling correction the bike will make about 37 to 38 HP. A net increase of 2 to 4 rear wheel horse power, which is about 6 to 12%. A far cry from the 15 to 25% numbers that would have been obtained in the 80s.

The only way to improve performance with the current generation bikes is to replace the full exhaust system. However, as noted above, while there will be an increase in performance, it's not going to hit the ball out of the park. Considering the fact that the N300 is lower end bike, Kawasaki engineers have done a stellar job with the exhaust system.

The Indian & European version of the N300 comes with 2 cat cons in the stock exhaust system. These cat cons are housed in a oval shaped mid section underneath the engine where the 2 header pipes merge into the larger midsection. However, while the outer diameter of the oval midsection looks big, it's a different story on the inside. With cat cons installed the inner diameter of the midsection is a carefully obtained measurement that is optimized for the best flow of gases with the cat cons as a integral part of the system. The removal of the cat cons creates extra space and throws out the optimized inner diameter tube section. This extra space essentially creates a lager diameter mid section. When the exhaust gases enter into this enlarged mid section from the headers, they lose their velocity and slow down significantly. This slow down of velocity will hamper scavenging of gases, which in turn hampers performance in a negative manner.

Therefore, the old adage of decoring exhaust systems to increase performance no longer holds true.

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[MENTION=26077]abhimanyu31[/MENTION] That's a lot of info which has been shared in simple words...appreciate the effort gone in

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@Ivin @akshay @abhimanyu31

Out of the parts required, was able to procure the Mechanical seal from the Kawasaki Original parts website in UK. Costed me double the price of the part if procured through kawa SC here; however felt like it was worth the effort.

Sharing the website address for people who are in dire straits and need parts in quick time - https://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com/

Product ordered on 20th April 2017
Product received on 29th April 2017

Part cost - 9.92 GBP
Shipping cost - 20 GBP
Total cost - 29.92 GBP

Mean time received a call from the kawa SC stating the ordered parts have arrived; i.e. Throttle cable, Grips etc. Will be giving the bike for service tomorrow to get these things sorted out.

Thanks for your guidance and support, appreciated.


Cheers,
Queensyrche

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You are welcome. Do let us know how the service went as you would probably be one off the first few who has gone to the dedicated Kawasaki SVC. A comparison to the erstwhile KTM would also be appreciated.

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Hello guys,

This is for your info reg service in New dedicated Kawasaki svc.
Recently I bought Kawasaki ninja 650 and done with the first service. Service cost is exorbitant comparing to the previous one.

Here I have shared the cost of first service. I don't know what they did in first service apart from changing oil and oil filter for which they charged 3k General labour.

1st service April 20, 2017
General labour. 3000
Engine oil 1550
Oil filter 650
Chain lube 500
Consumables 500
Tax 600
Total 6800


Ride safe!!

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Wow. Rs.3000/- for labour and Rs.500/- for chain lube is sheer daylight robbery. I hope they come to their senses. Perhaps makes more sense to get the bike serviced now from the number of superbike garages that are mushrooming up all over the city.

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Will definitely do that Akshay; however i have never been to KTM SC before hence can't help with a comparison study

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Usually the labor costs are around 1k - 2.5k when you give it to kawa SC, depending on basis of your requirements.

Ideally for the first service, your bill should have been around 4.5-5k max including everything. I would recommend you to have a word with the
Service Manager and let him know that you are not happy with the final bill and you can always quote to other kawa SC across where the cost of a similar service is less comparatively.

Cheers,
Queensyrche

Re: Kawasaki Ninja 300 Ownership Experience

Usually the labor costs are around 1k - 2.5k when you give it to kawa SC, depending on basis of your requirements.

Ideally for the first service, your bill should have been around 4.5-5k max including everything. I would recommend you to have a word with the
Service Manager and let him know that you are not happy with the final bill and you can always quote to other kawa SC across where the cost of a similar service is less comparatively.

Cheers,
Queensyrche[/QUOTE]

Was charged 4000/- as labour alone for 2nd service on my N250 at Cochin.

Had been to the Kawasaki service centre in Chennai yesterday to check on the front brake. They just want to service the bike and are not ready to check the isolated issue. He said - "do full service and your issue will be resolved in that". (I serviced the bike just a couple of months back). And the cost is approximately 6000/- for a normal service.
Labour is 1000/- per hour no matter what you do and thats the same for all CKD bikes. Couldn't see the service bay nor any bikes awaiting service.

Seems like a lot of fleecing ahead!

OT: They have the full 2017 lineup of N300, N650, Z650, Z900. Versys 650, Versys1000 on display.

Re: Kawasaki Ninja 300 Ownership Experience

Was charged 4000/- as labour alone for 2nd service on my N250 at Cochin.

Had been to the Kawasaki service centre in Chennai yesterday to check on the front brake. They just want to service the bike and are not ready to check the isolated issue. He said - "do full service and your issue will be resolved in that". (I serviced the bike just a couple of months back). And the cost is approximately 6000/- for a normal service.
Labour is 1000/- per hour no matter what you do and thats the same for all CKD bikes. Couldn't see the service bay nor any bikes awaiting service.

Seems like a lot of fleecing ahead!

OT: They have the full 2017 lineup of N300, N650, Z650, Z900. Versys 650, Versys1000 on display.[/QUOTE]




Yes bro. Even I did my service in chennai jmb kawasaki. The service cost is a day light robbery. Seems Kawasaki is challenging benelli and even ducati on charging higher maintenance charges[emoji20]
But we have only 2 Kawasaki svcs in Tamil nadu. One in chennai and another one in Coimbatore both are handled by jmb groups. No other option to get our bike serviced elsewhere[emoji17]

Ps. Can anybody suggest any store in chennai where can I get paddock stand and swimg arm spools for ninja 650,??

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Not intending to rub salt on woulds, but just wanted to inform that Benelli has introduced AMC for 300 CC as of now and soon they will introduce this for 600 CC as well.
Now this AMC brings down service cost by 50% if you opt for three service package and by around 37% if opted for six service package.

Also, I must admit that Bangalore Benelli service folks are too good and they always take care of niggles in between services and do not insist for full service everytime unless it is as per prescribed interval.

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@vinbex when you say Cochin sc, are you referring to the KTM sc where Ninja's also used to get serviced or the newly opened Kawsaki SC centre at Kalamassery...

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Sorry, I meant the KTM Vyttila. They did a shoddy job and charged a bomb back in 2014

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Well, that 3000 for general labour used to be for their superbikes. If they are putting the same amount of money for Ninja 300 and 650(KTMS general service labour was around 900 for these), its sure they are digging their own pit for them to be laid. This labour price is 3 times more than what it was. Kawasaki looting for new showrooms maybe ? I dont think this is a nice move from them, especially when they do nothing for customer satisfaction after sales.