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  • Re: 2013 kawasaki ninja 300 - rush is addictive

    Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
    Sprockets and basically any parts used in racing may not last as long as in the streets not because of the material used but because of the kind of usage and stress it will be put into. You won't be riding as hard on the streets as on a racetrack.
    I meant under the same type of usage ofcourse.

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    • Re: 2013 kawasaki ninja 300 - rush is addictive

      Originally posted by incipient View Post
      I meant under the same type of usage ofcourse.
      Well even for that [MENTION=26077]abhimanyu31[/MENTION] has given a good explanation as to whether the aluminium ones will last as long as the steel ones or not. I feel he is quite right there.
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      • Re: 2013 kawasaki ninja 300 - rush is addictive

        Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
        Oops, didn't read your post there. I was just trying to sneak in here, hehe. I will go back to the R15 thread . Sorry for the OT.
        Lol..the forum doesnt belong to me mate..!! haha..

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        • Re: Ninja 300 (engine) rattling noise

          Originally posted by giridharmb View Post
          Rattling (engine) noise from Ninja 300:

          I was on 5th gear at about 100 kmph , was about to shift to 6th, the RPM dropped rapidly , and there was no effect upon giving the motorcycle more gas. Engine stalled with loud rattling noise and shut off. I had to crank it 4 or 5 times to start it again. Eventually it started but there was rattling noise coming continuously - especially from the bottom right side circular housing - which I think is the clutch cover. If I revved the engine beyond 4000 RPM , engine used to shut off. But the bike was rideable on 2nd gear - so had to slowly come back to the service station which is about 18 kms (12 miles) on 2nd gear at 30 kmph - had to maintain the engine RPM below 3500 RPM. Have no clue why.

          Also , upon the initial inspection , the service engineer drained the engine oil completely - and I was shocked to see only 10% of engine oil remaining. The previous service was done about 5000 KMS (3125 miles) back and engine oil was completely replaced. There was no sign of leakage anywhere or no sign of under belly damage. Service engineer told me that the oil got burnt off. Anyone has any idea how this could have happened ? FYI - engine is still under warranty. Today (after 4 days of the incident, motorcycle still at the service station) got another update from the service engineer - he told me that it could be due to faulty engine gasket which caused the engine oil to leak - and it burnt off while the engine kept running.
          I hope nothing serious has happened to the engine. Audio (+Video) of the rattling noise:
          Rattling noise from ninja 300 - YouTube
          So What happen?.. Did you take it to the service center. What was the problem?..
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            The mild steel sprocket.

            is this one a custom sprocket?
            . . . .d biker guy

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              • Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                Installation of Scottoiler chain oiling system

                The one common complaint of all motorcyclists around the world is the hassle and routine of cleaning and lubricating their bike’s chain. It has be the most dirty and crappy part of all the their bike maintenance routine. I have personally come across motorcyclists who have based their choice of bikes on the basis of what the final drive train of their bike is i.e. shaft drive or belt drive, because they don’t want to deal with cleaning and lubing a chain.

                What most people tend to forget or discount is the fact that the final drive is what makes it possible for our bikes to move. Without a final drive train, the bike may as well be a pushbike. Yet we tend not to pay it the attention that we pay to the engine or any other part of the bike. We think and discuss about what oil is the best for the engine, what air filter to use, which spark plug to use, etc, but chains and sprockets are only given a passing thought. Even when group of motorcyclists meet, it is more likely that engines will be discussed than the final drive train.

                The only time that most of us give the drive train any thought is when the chain becomes slack or it starts making noise.

                Many people complain that their gear shifts are notchy, many complain that they don’t get proper fuel efficiency and many complain that their bikes don’t perform as well as their friends does, many still complain about their bike not being smooth where as the neighbor’s is. Most people start looking at various factors (admittedly valid reasons) like air filter, AFR, tyre pressure, clutch adjustment, etc., only in the passing is the word ‘chain’ mentioned.

                In addition to the above problems most people complain that the chains and sprockets wear out abnormally fast after the first 3,000 to 4,000 kms of running.

                Would it surprise you if I told you that chains and sprockets have as much role to play in the above problems, as any other factor has to play? Many a times, the problem may be just that, a chain that has not been lubed properly which in turn leads to friction between the dry ‘O’ and links. Once the ‘O’ cracks and losses integrity, it lets in dirt and grime, which destroy the chain and this, leads to creation abnormal pressure point in the sprocket. These abnormal pressure points lead to wearing of the sprockets.

                When chains are discussed, it’s normally about which chain is superior, the ‘O’ ring, the ‘X’ ring or the ‘Z’ ring. To an extent the bike makers and the chain makers are to be blamed for the obsession for such discussions as they provide either very basic information such as recommended cleaning period and what chain lube and cleaner should be used to misleading advertisements that harp about how one chain is superior to its competitors.

                In my quest for performance I started looking for ways in which to reduce friction and increase the amount of useable power available at the rear wheel. The surprising road that it took me down was sprockets and chains. My last post was about installation of the Renthal rear sprocket, Vortex front sprocket and a Rolon X ring chain. The gearing change allowed for better use of the power. However, there was one crucial aspect that we still need to address; how to ensure that the chain and sprockets deliver optimum power all the time?

                While researching this aspect, a friend in U.K. pointed me in the direction of Scottoiler chain oiling systems. He was emphatic about the benefits of the new Scottoiler eSystem and asked me to consider it seriously.

                We all know in some part of our mind that a dry chain degrades performance. But the question is just how much of degradation it is? According to Scottoiler, the friction between a dry ‘O’ ring and the links can covert up to 2 Kilowatts (2.6 hp) of power to heat. A look at dyno runs provided by Scottoiler proves to be a very interesting read. The dyno runs done with a GSXR 1000 show a difference of 10 bhp at the rear wheel between a lubed and a dry chain. For additional study take a look at the more detailed pdf http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/bmw-s...est-graphs.pdf.

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                In addition to the performance, there are additional benefits of the system:

                1. It claims to increase chain and sprocket life by up to 7 times.

                2. It eliminates the need to clean the chain frequently. The oil from the system washes away the dirt and grime.

                3. Its hands down more economical to use than traditional chain lubes and cleaners. The accurate metering system ensures that the chain optimally lubed. 60 ml (capacity of reservoir) of oil last for 4,500 kms.

                4. Its cleaner that traditional chain lubes. Traditional chain lubes are tacky to ensure that lube sticks to the chain. However, over time the lube collects dirt and gets flung on to the rear wheel. All of us know that cleaning the rear wheel of grime and dirt is a major headache and is very messy.

                The above mentioned benefits made it worthwhile to go for it. Therefore, a Scottoiler eSystem was ordered.

                When the Scottoiler system was received, I immediately saw a potential problem. The system consisted of a digital console, which needs to be mounted in place easily reachable. The digital console consisted of a 3-axis accelerometer, which senses how much oil should be dispensed. It also displays the rate of oil dispensation, ambient temperature, time, oil level in reservoir and the G forces. The console has 2 big buttons to help operate the unit even with gloves on.
                The potential problem that I foresaw was the habit of people here to fiddle around and destroy things, which don’t belong to them. Some may feel offended by this statement, but it is a fact that I have personally experienced, there is a streak of meanness and jealousy in people who take sadistic pleasure in destroying things that belong to others. Leaving the bike unattended with the display console mounted was akin to showing red to a ranging bull.

                I asked Vikram of Motozone, Pune, if he could make a casing for the console. Vikram very graciously agreed to make the casing. The results of Vikram’s efforts have exceeded my expectations. He created the casing using aluminum with a polycarbonate front and 2 rubberized buttons. The complete casing is waterproof, tamper resistant and completely functional.

                The eSystem box consist of the digital console, oil reservoir, 250 ml bottle of oil lubricant (you have a choice of blue (regular) and red (high temperature) oil), harnesses, nozzle with pipe, and various fixtures for mounting options. The kit is quite self-contained and ordinarily would not require any thing extra for installation.

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                Scottoiler eSystem – California Superbike School approved. MCN Product of the Year 2009.

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                eSystem digital console in the aluminum casing. 100% water proof and temper resistant.

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                60ml eSystem oil reservoir with a electro magnetic piston to dispense accurate amount of oil.

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                250ml high temperature oil. One bottle will last 18,000 kms!

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                eSystem reservoir being filled.

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                Oil reservoir bottle sits in the glove box next to the tool kit.
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                eSystem being primed.
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                Oil filling the entire piping during system priming.

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                Oil dispensing nozzle.

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                Pipe routing. Note that the system priming is completed and the pipe is completely filled with oil.

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                Display console in regular display mode.

                300 kms/ One week ride review

                300 kms and one week have given a better understanding about the Scottoiler system. To answer all queries in one line: It works exactly as advertised. The system’s 3 axis accelerometer is sensitive enough that it will wake up only when the engine is started and the bike is in motion. While waiting in traffic, the system sensing that there is no motion goes to sleep only to awake immediately upon moving 5 meters. The current threshold for oil dispensing is set at 60 kmph (it can be adjusted to higher or lower threshold), therefore lubrication begins only after the bike reaches and passes 60 kmph. The current oil dispensing rate is set at 60 seconds for 1 drop of oil, this again can be increased or decreased in units of 10 seconds.

                Ordinarily, after 300 kms of running, one would see some amount of grime collected on the chain. Thus far the chain is remarkably clean. The chain and the sprocket are well lubricated and show remarkably reduced rolling resistance. This difference is felt perceptibly when the bike is on the move. Gearshifts are positive and butter smooth, there is remarkable absence of vibration on the foot pegs.

                This is one of the most remarkable and best investments I have made and will be a must do addition on all my future bikes.

                Note: BMW and KTM officially endorse Scottoiler for their bikes.

                Thanks to Vikram of Motozone, Pune for the fantastic job of making the casing and also doing a great job on installation of the system.
                Last edited by abhimanyu31; 04-15-2014, 01:04 AM.
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                • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                  Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
                  Installation of Scottoiler chain oiling system


                  Oil filling the entire piping during system priming.

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                  Oil dispensing nozzle.
                  What if the nozzle gets blocked??? Will it be detected or we should check ? I know the possibility is very low,since oil is dropped every 60 sec..Still there are chances. And whats the price?
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                  • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                    Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
                    Installation of Scottoiler chain oiling system

                    The one common complaint of all motorcyclists around the world is the hassle and routine of cleaning and lubricating their bike’s chain. It has be the most dirty and crappy part of all the their bike maintenance routine. I have personally come across motorcyclists who have based their choice of bikes on the basis of what the final drive train of their bike is i.e. shaft
                    In my quest for ..... the system.

                    Abhimanyu, I believe that the "Project 300 " is worthy of a individual thread, there is so much of information being explained in each and every post , and not just pics of what is being added on.
                    So much knowledge is getting buried inside the ownership threads, where no matter how clean the discussion still it manages to get buried up.

                    So i request you to sum it up till here into a new thread, with each post for each of the mods done, i think it is just a matter of copy and paste till now.

                    I think most of the members here would agree and so will the mods, Tagging [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] and [MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION]


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                    • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                      ^^^ [MENTION=56279]siddharthsure[/MENTION]; the oil dispensation nozzle will need to be checked once in a while to ensure that its not blocked. One can always do it when one is checking the chain to ensure its properly oiled once in a while.
                      [MENTION=35815]krish2778[/MENTION]; Without wanting to sound to too corny, its a great honour for me that fellow motorcyclists feel my posts are worthy of their time and effort to read. For me personally its a journey of learning and attaining knowledge which I am trying to record like a dairy. Its really for the moderators to decide if these posts need to be put as a separate thread.
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                      • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                        Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
                        @krish2778; Without wanting to sound to too corny, its a great honour for me that fellow motorcyclists feel my posts are worthy of their time and effort to read. For me personally its a journey of learning and attaining knowledge which I am trying to record like a dairy. Its really for the moderators to decide if these posts need to be put as a separate thread.
                        Yes sir. Very much so. I do not want to move the posts from here, as it will break the flow of this thread and i might miss out on something. But i do request you to copy paste text, photos etc. from beginning to now, in a new thread for the benefit of everybody. Followed your R15 thread as well, but unfortunately the updates there dried up

                        Look forward to seeing the thread from you.

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                        • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                          Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
                          @krish2778; Without wanting to sound to too corny, its a great honour for me that fellow motorcyclists feel my posts are worthy of their time and effort to read. For me personally its a journey of learning and attaining knowledge which I am trying to record like a dairy. Its really for the moderators to decide if these posts need to be put as a separate thread.
                          We are also getting to learn a great deal from these posts, so why not have it as a single record/diary entry as you said. And one of our mods seems to agree too..!! :-D


                          Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                          Yes sir. Very much so. I do not want to move the posts from here, as it will break the flow of this thread and i might miss out on something. But i do request you to copy paste text, photos etc. from beginning to now, in a new thread for the benefit of everybody. Followed your R15 thread as well, but unfortunately the updates there dried up

                          Look forward to seeing the thread from you.

                          Thanks

                          Yup, a new thread with the mod jobs details alone. Would be great reference thread for many prospective owners or modders.


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                          • Re: Installation of Scottoiler eSystem chain oiling system

                            Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                            Abhimanyu, I believe that the "Project 300 " is worthy of a individual thread, there is so much of information being explained in each and every post , and not just pics of what is being added on.
                            So much knowledge is getting buried inside the ownership threads, where no matter how clean the discussion still it manages to get buried up.

                            So i request you to sum it up till here into a new thread, with each post for each of the mods done, i think it is just a matter of copy and paste till now.

                            I think most of the members here would agree and so will the mods.
                            +1 There's plenty of useful tips and information even for someone who's not into modding (like myself).

                            Actually a blog might be ideal for this sort of thing but i digress...

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                            • Re: 2013 kawasaki ninja 300 - rush is addictive

                              Where can I get one and what is the price

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                              • Re: 2013 kawasaki ninja 300 - rush is addictive

                                ^^^ I have started a new thread to copy/paste all the relevant posts from here . Waiting for the moderators to approve it. Henceforth, all future post will continue on the said thread.
                                @vineeth9188; take a look at Scottoiler | Motorcycle chain oiler | Scottoiler FS 365 ... you will find all the information there .

                                Update: The moderators have approved the thread!!! http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...a-300-san.html
                                Last edited by abhimanyu31; 04-16-2014, 02:49 PM.
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