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  • #10816
    Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

    Originally posted by zestbiker View Post
    Hello fellow 390 users.
    My 23400km run 390 has started emitting smoke from the exhaust -evident after closing the throttle after revving it -the bike gave no symptoms-no overheating,no power loss,no jerkiness,no misfires,no lack of smoothness-nothing to tell something is failing-the bike still goes like a bat out of hell and i am in a quandary.
    Should i continue using it till there is perceptive powerloss etc etc or it starts really belching smoke???
    Is it only during cold start you see the smoke, or is the smoke visible even after engine gets warm and constantly emitting from the exhaust? Bluish white is definitely oil burning.

    You need to figure out the oil is entering the combustion chamber from bottom through piston rings or from the top through the head,
    If the smoke only during the cold start after vehicle is sitting for long time, then it's the time for valve job, could to get the valve job done, replace the valve oil seals and get the seating done.
    But if the smoke is emitting continuously even when engine is hot then as pointed out in above post it could piston rings.

    Also keep an eye on the coolant level aswell every 1000kms along with oil level, to see if coolant is also getting burnt or not along with oil.
    Last edited by kiran2508; 11-18-2019, 11:12 AM.
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    • #10817
      Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

      Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
      Is it only during cold start you see the smoke, or is the smoke visible even after engine gets warm and constantly emitting from the exhaust? Bluish white is definitely oil burning.

      You need to figure out the oil is entering the combustion chamber from bottom through piston rings or from the top through the head,
      If the smoke only during the cold start after vehicle is sitting for long time, then it's the time for valve job, could to get the valve job done, replace the valve oil seals and get the seating done.
      But if the smoke is emitting continuously even when engine is hot then as pointed out in above post it could piston rings.

      Also keep an eye on the coolant level aswell every 1000kms along with oil level, to see if coolant is also getting burnt or not along with oil.

      The coolant level has always between the upper n lower levels all through-the smoke is prominent only when you rev it hard and then release the throttle-otherwise it is the smell of the exhaust which tells you that the bike is combusting something else along with petrol.
      @#bpk and @kiran2508 -KTM doesn't sell the piston rings separately- cost for piston kit and valve replacement qouted @rs25k and if the crank and bearings are involved then cost projected is @rs45k.
      Just need to know if somebody here has had the engine rebuilt -are they happy-the KTM service centre mechanic says he has rebuilt more than 20 Duke/RC390 engines from in and around Ludhiana and says not to worry about rebuilding.
      The experience of fellow Xbhpians will be helpful.
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      • #10818
        Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by zestbiker View Post
        KTM doesn't sell the piston rings separately- cost for piston kit and valve replacement qouted @rs25k and if the crank and bearings are involved then cost projected is @rs45k..
        they do sell only the rings, but almost no svc will be willing to do it. they are only interested in a full rebuild, so they can sell you more parts.
        there was one user here, who had just the rings replaced.. check out this post and a few posts before and after: https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcy...ml#post1301791

        i don't think you'd need to touch the crank or bearings. yes, the piston/block kit and valves could set you back by 20-25k.. the 390's block/piston is much more expensive than the 200's.

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        • #10819
          Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

          Originally posted by s1d View Post
          they do sell only the rings, but almost no svc will be willing to do it. they are only interested in a full rebuild, so they can sell you more parts.
          there was one user here, who had just the rings replaced..
          You stole my words, they just want user to get the whole kit changed "while you are at it" instead of just replacing rings only for which they can charge more money for labor for full replacement vs only rings replacement.

          Also, the entire rebuild with everything new part will cost ₹35-38K at best maximum, ₹45K quoted is just SVC being greedy.
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          • #10820
            Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

            Thank you [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] and @kiran2508 .
            Will check the oil consumption first and then take a call on how to go about it.
            As there is only one dealer/SC here,they are only interested in selling the rebuild package.
            Of the 8 two wheelers owned till now,this is the only one where there is some engine problem so lack experience
            Last edited by zestbiker; 11-18-2019, 05:38 PM.
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            • #10821
              Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

              hi everyone hope evrthings good.

              recently my 390 duke had abs issue like abs light is always on while riding and abs is switched off ,service centre checked everything but they couldn't anywhere.

              I got on youtube ,saw the maybe wires have issues,because i have bundled my raincoat under the pillion seat ,iw I'll try to remove that and check.

              please suggest your reviews about this situation.
              BLAKBANDIT

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              • #10822
                Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by blak bandit 350cc View Post
                hi everyone hope evrthings good.

                recently my 390 duke had abs issue like abs light is always on while riding and abs is switched off ,service centre checked everything but they couldn't anywhere.

                I got on youtube ,saw the maybe wires have issues,because i have bundled my raincoat under the pillion seat ,iw I'll try to remove that and check.

                please suggest your reviews about this situation.
                Does the ABS work normally when ABS is on or the ABS light throws up even after ABS is switched off?

                Cheers!
                VJ
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                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • #10823
                  Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                  Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                  Does the ABS work normally when ABS is on or the ABS light throws up even after ABS is switched off?

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  works works good when it's working,abs warning throws suddenly middle of riding .
                  BLAKBANDIT

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                  • #10824
                    Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by blak bandit 350cc View Post
                    works works good when it's working,abs warning throws suddenly middle of riding .
                    From what I can speculate, there can be a couple of things causing this. Since, this is happening intermittently, it can be due to faulty, dirty wheel sensor or frayed wheel sensor wires front or rear, which causes it work intermittently. Secondly, a faulty ABS Unit also can mean working of the ABS every now and then. A bent or faulty ABS sensor ring in the wheels too can cause such issues.

                    1. Check both the sensor wires for loose connection or if it's frayed or just plain dust accumulation. Clean it and see if it helps.

                    2. Check for any fault codes registered and clear them, see if it helps.

                    3. Lastly, check the ABS rings in both the wheels and your ABS Modulator itself.

                    Hope it helps. Keep your observations posted.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • #10825
                      Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                      thank you
                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      From what I can speculate, there can be a couple of things causing this. Since, this is happening intermittently, it can be due to faulty, dirty wheel sensor or frayed wheel sensor wires front or rear, which causes it work intermittently. Secondly, a faulty ABS Unit also can mean working of the ABS every now and then. A bent or faulty ABS sensor ring in the wheels too can cause such issues.

                      1. Check both the sensor wires for loose connection or if it's frayed or just plain dust accumulation. Clean it and see if it helps.

                      2. Check for any fault codes registered and clear them, see if it helps.

                      3. Lastly, check the ABS rings in both the wheels and your ABS Modulator itself.

                      Hope it helps. Keep your observations posted.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      thank you brother .I will and post latest update.
                      BLAKBANDIT

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                      • #10826
                        Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                        I've been toying with the idea of getting a mobile holder fixed to my bike. Bought one from Amazon.

                        But, having thoughts about adding electrical load to the bike.

                        I am told there are two options:-

                        1. To connect the charger directly to the battery. Sounds like the safest bet to me as there is no splicing/cutting of wires,etc. But would this drain the battery?
                        2. To connect it to brake switch/indicator light so that charger is turned on only when the ignition is on.

                        Not sure, if this will cause any issues. Hows the experience been for people who have got this done?

                        Or for peace of mind shall I just get the holder fitted without connecting the charger? I could always carry a separate phone and a power bank.
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                        • #10827
                          Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                          Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                          I've been toying with the idea of getting a mobile holder fixed to my bike. Bought one from Amazon.

                          But, having thoughts about adding electrical load to the bike.

                          I am told there are two options:-

                          1. To connect the charger directly to the battery. Sounds like the safest bet to me as there is no splicing/cutting of wires,etc. But would this drain the battery?
                          2. To connect it to brake switch/indicator light so that charger is turned on only when the ignition is on.

                          Not sure, if this will cause any issues. Hows the experience been for people who have got this done?

                          Or for peace of mind shall I just get the holder fitted without connecting the charger? I could always carry a separate phone and a power bank.
                          There is dedicated connector for accessories behind the head light, which has separate fuse and rated for upto 10 Amps.
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                          • #10828
                            Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                            Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                            I've been toying with the idea of getting a mobile holder fixed to my bike. Bought one from Amazon.
                            carry a separate phone and a power bank.
                            Just as DeVille said, use the accessories port behind the headlamp unit, and it shall work perfectly. Or if you still like to use it the other way around, connect it directly to battery, considering the charger has an on off switch.

                            But ACC port is the cleanest way to do it.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • #10829
                              Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                              Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                              There is dedicated connector for accessories behind the head light, which has separate fuse and rated for upto 10 Amps.
                              Thanks for the info bro

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                              • #10830
                                Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                                Actually if you see the smoke when the bike is hot , it is a problem. But i feel 23k kms is too early.


                                But if you see the smoke immediately on a cold start that should be fine since you are running a rich mixture until engine warms up.
                                Originally posted by zestbiker View Post
                                Hello fellow 390 users.
                                My 23400km run 390 has started emitting smoke from the exhaust -evident after closing the throttle after revving it -the bike gave no symptoms-no overheating,no power loss,no jerkiness,no misfires,no lack of smoothness-nothing to tell something is failing-the bike still goes like a bat out of hell and i am in a quandary.
                                Should i continue using it till there is perceptive powerloss etc etc or it starts really belching smoke???

                                Comment

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