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**experimentalhead** · 06-16-2015, 03:19 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post

Yes Sir...Max waiting period is 45 days...he said the vehicle will come after 30+ days and few days to get it unloaded from truck and complete the Registration formalities and hopefully deliver to the customer on on before the 45th day.

I cant wait for Thursday to do my booking...Yupieee

Did the showroom person specify any reason for waiting period

**TheArcher84** · 06-16-2015, 03:41 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post

Did the showroom person specify any reason for waiting period

I presume for placing the order to import the parts and do the assembly and get it transported to your local state. I can confirm this to you on Thursday.

**vijaycool** · 06-16-2015, 04:01 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Heaviness is due to low carbon mild steel usage in building frames. The chassis will flex

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/17/cycle-world-interview-yan-haimei-ceo-of-benelli-motorcycles/

We did not use any special alloy steel for the frame, we just over-engineered the whole project, to make sure that the BN302 will be able to stand the rigors of many Far East markets.
“In China, we do not have easy access to high-strength steel alloys, so we over-engineer to make a very solid, high-quality bike here as in our China factory. This makes for a slightly heavier bike, but it’s super durable and at a very competitive price. And low price makes the BN302 very attractive also in Europe.”

http://www.moto-choice.com/en/Press-Releases/375/the-price-of-the-new-benelli-bn-600-in.html
This bike has already been presented as Keeway RK6 in March 2012. The Engine of the RK6 is based on older Yamaha R6 design, the frame derives from Aprilia Shiver 750

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/15/2015-benelli-bn-302-motorcycle-review-first-ride-photos-specifications
The 300cc engine of the BN302 is a parallel twin derived from the BN600’s four-cylinder powerplant. It has the 65.0mm by 45.2 mm bore and stroke measurements, and the same 12:1 compression ratio. Similarly, the valve size is unchanged, with 25mm intakes and 22mm exhausts, respectively set at 14.8 degrees and 14 degrees to the axis of the cylinder, for an included angle of 28.8 degrees.

Thus concludes everything. BN302 is derived form its elder brother BN600 which the engine is from older version of Yamaha R6

**experimentalhead** · 06-16-2015, 05:24 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

That's interesting

**classic_86** · 06-16-2015, 06:58 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post

Yeah...I have seen that too..Sorry for this question, but is there a braking component by the name Benelli. Or is it Benelli imprinted on some brake caliper or brake pads, I guess 899 and 1130 has Brembo. Just wanted to know what braking components are used for 300 and 600. Like you said, I just Benelli on it. Not sure on the component name used.

It's made by Benelli. It's not just imprinted.

**experimentalhead** · 06-16-2015, 07:39 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by classic_86 View Post

It's made by Benelli. It's not just imprinted.

I guess u meant 'made by brembo', but not imprinted

**classic_86** · 06-16-2015, 07:50 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post

I guess u meant 'made by brembo', but not imprinted

Haha. No. I meant it's made and imprinted both by Benelli. Confirmed by dealer and other online reviewers.

**dhawz29** · 06-16-2015, 08:42 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by vijaycool View Post

Heaviness is due to low carbon mild steel usage in building frames. The chassis will flex

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/17/cycle-world-interview-yan-haimei-ceo-of-benelli-motorcycles/

We did not use any special alloy steel for the frame, we just over-engineered the whole project, to make sure that the BN302 will be able to stand the rigors of many Far East markets.
“In China, we do not have easy access to high-strength steel alloys, so we over-engineer to make a very solid, high-quality bike here as in our China factory. This makes for a slightly heavier bike, but it’s super durable and at a very competitive price. And low price makes the BN302 very attractive also in Europe.”

http://www.moto-choice.com/en/Press-Releases/375/the-price-of-the-new-benelli-bn-600-in.html
This bike has already been presented as Keeway RK6 in March 2012. The Engine of the RK6 is based on older Yamaha R6 design, the frame derives from Aprilia Shiver 750

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/15/2015-benelli-bn-302-motorcycle-review-first-ride-photos-specifications
The 300cc engine of the BN302 is a parallel twin derived from the BN600’s four-cylinder powerplant. It has the 65.0mm by 45.2 mm bore and stroke measurements, and the same 12:1 compression ratio. Similarly, the valve size is unchanged, with 25mm intakes and 22mm exhausts, respectively set at 14.8 degrees and 14 degrees to the axis of the cylinder, for an included angle of 28.8 degrees.

Thus concludes everything. BN302 is derived form its elder brother BN600 which the engine is from older version of Yamaha R6

Great! I hope you found all the answers!

When are you booking yours?

The fact that the 300s engine components are almost same dimensions or slightly differ from the elder sibling could also be a reason why the 300s sounds so amazing. I think so.

**ZMAtic** · 06-16-2015, 10:12 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

#Noob Query#

Can the TNT 300 exhaust be swapped with D390/RC390?

If not can it be swapped with Ninja 300 twin?

Will the aural effect will be all the same that of the original Benelli?

Please respond with whys if possible

**Shreeni0403** · 06-16-2015, 10:23 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by ZMAtic View Post

#Noob Query#

Can the TNT 300 exhaust be swapped with D390/RC390?

If not can it be swapped with Ninja 300 twin?

Will the aural effect will be all the same that of the original Benelli?

Please respond with whys if possible

Why would you want to do that ? [emoji35]

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**Ballistic** · 06-16-2015, 10:38 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Today I managed to ride 10-12 kms in extreme rains in Mumbai, it was raining cats and dogs. I was impressed with the way the Benelli handled, even in these extreme rains, the pirellis outperformed itself, never gave away on tarmac, potholes, small and large puddles and even on cemented roads. The handling was pitch perfect and never did I lose balance throughout the hour long 10 km odd ride. Also, there was no engine shutdown at traffic halts. The only problem appears to be slotting into N.

**Pragyanand Tripathi** · 06-16-2015, 11:17 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Congrats bro......that is one awesome steed yuo have.......happy miles are waiting for you to rule the roads.......

Ride Safe......

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**ZMAtic** · 06-16-2015, 11:36 PM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post

Why would you want to do that ? [emoji35]

Sent from Tin Box using Pigeon carrier.

Did that annoy you?

Acutally I visited Benelli showroom the other day and the sales person gave a demo of the exhaust. Unique !

Now, i am planning for an upgrade of R15. Apparently i can't afford a i4 something for now. But would want whatever i buy to be a really good sounding machine.

Have even bought a RTR as i really liked the way it fired. RC is in reach but wont give me what i look for so was thinking of a Jugad.

Definitely not a deal breaker, but exhaust is what i am a slave of. Ninja screams post 6K whereas the Benelli thing hums sweetly right from idle, hence the query.

Had the budget permitted would go for 600i too

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**vijaycool** · 06-17-2015, 01:03 AM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by dhawz29 View Post

Great! I hope you found all the answers!

When are you booking yours?

The fact that the 300s engine components are almost same dimensions or slightly differ from the elder sibling could also be a reason why the 300s sounds so amazing. I think so.

Your wish come true. I am trying to find answers on the engine longevity. You guys are wondering what made tnt300 sound like Inline 4. The answer is the usage to 360 degree crank shaft, which means both pistons move up and down at the same time. This makes consecutive firing at every revolution of the crank. Hence continuous exhaust sound like inline 4. This arrangement will create lots primary and secondary vibration, hence stronger internals is necessity.

Again from cycleworld..

At the bottom end, the Benelli 302 follows a tried and true layout featuring a classic 360-degree crankshaft turning on three 32mm main bearings. The rod bearings are 30mm in diameter, for a very sturdy structure, while the main journals and crank journals overlap a generous 8.4mm. A 360-degree parallel twin needs two balance shafts to counter the primary order imbalance that generates the nasty vibrations for which the traditional British twins of yore were known. The Benelli technicians, however, adopted only one balancing shaft—one to counter the vertically vectored vibrations, while letting the massively counterweighted crankshaft cancel the horizontally vectored ones.
The 91.7mm center-to-center rods produce a 2.02:1 ratio to the stroke, which keeps the secondary imbalance a bay and lessens piston side load and friction. The result is an almost perfectly smooth, vibration free bike with little mechanical fuss.

What makes it interesting is connecting rod ratio. Greater than 2.0 makes less piston ovality and used in Racing applications aka F1 and high speed applications. Only disadvantage is taller overall engine length

Pic of 360 degree crankshaft

http://www.cycleworld.com/olgallery/146084/146113/23

**Ballistic** · 06-17-2015, 02:19 AM

Re: Benelli TNT 300 Ownership Experience

Originally posted by vijaycool View Post

Your wish come true. I am trying to find answers on the engine longevity. You guys are wondering what made tnt300 sound like Inline 4. The answer is the usage to 360 degree crank shaft, which means both pistons move up and down at the same time. This makes consecutive firing at every revolution of the crank. Hence continuous exhaust sound like inline 4. This arrangement will create lots primary and secondary vibration, hence stronger internals is necessity.

Again from cycleworld..

At the bottom end, the Benelli 302 follows a tried and true layout featuring a classic 360-degree crankshaft turning on three 32mm main bearings. The rod bearings are 30mm in diameter, for a very sturdy structure, while the main journals and crank journals overlap a generous 8.4mm. A 360-degree parallel twin needs two balance shafts to counter the primary order imbalance that generates the nasty vibrations for which the traditional British twins of yore were known. The Benelli technicians, however, adopted only one balancing shaft—one to counter the vertically vectored vibrations, while letting the massively counterweighted crankshaft cancel the horizontally vectored ones.
The 91.7mm center-to-center rods produce a 2.02:1 ratio to the stroke, which keeps the secondary imbalance a bay and lessens piston side load and friction. The result is an almost perfectly smooth, vibration free bike with little mechanical fuss.

What makes it interesting is connecting rod ratio. Greater than 2.0 makes less piston ovality and used in Racing applications aka F1 and high speed applications. Only disadvantage is taller overall engine length

Pic of 360 degree crankshaft

http://www.cycleworld.com/olgallery/146084/146113/23

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Now that is a proper technical evaluation, so does it mean bad or good.... the guy at Cycleworld was gungho about this arrangement, though I could not figure out the technical part of it much.

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