Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

@ashwinprakas, I was confused for a while, what were screech plates. These are not screech plates, or as they are more aptly called as brake shims. These basically reduce pad judder due to accumulated brake dust and helps provide a tight fit for the brake pads which in turn helps them stay in place when brakes are applied and don't move in the direction of the wheel and cause one sided pad wear. Also similar to your point, it does reduce squeaks since it helps reduce pad movement.

@sunnylovesalman, apart from the jugaad brake pad shim that you've replaced, I'd like to know more about the other modification you did to the caliper holder, as I couldn't see the job carried in the second picture. The reason your brake noise is reduced is because the shims have provided for a more tighter fit of the pads inside the caliper, and in the process makes the movement of the pad less due to the wheel motion when brake is applied. This is what causes irritating squeals, along with a crappy worn out brake pad.

On my R15s, I've changed both my front and rear tires, a couple of months back, along with brake pads and fluid. When it comes to replacing, brake pads, fluid, brake lines, I always prefer doing it myself, and so far I haven't lost anything in the process per se or nothing unduly did fall or did I miss anything, but since you did bring this point up, it piques me as to why my R15s didn't have these shims.


Cheers!
VJ

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

In car spares its called Brake Shim and they also come with an extended leg to clearly indicate wear, but I distinctly recall them being referred to Screech Plates when I had posted a query regarding the same a few years ago in the ZMA thread as I had the same doubt.

Only the Nissin kit on the ZMA came with them installed from factory, the Pulsar etc were missing these from factory. I've run my ZMA without them and didn't notice anything different, at the SVC they simply discard it as on a worn out pad they're nearly unnoticeable due to muck and brake dust.

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

Indeed Ashwin. I am surprised, I haven't seen these shims on my R15S either both front and rear. They were stock pads and replaced along with the tires a couple of months back, and surprised to see, quite some glaring differences between the R15s, though the calipers remain the same. Personally haven't felt any problem whatsoever with the braking, screeches or squealing even after going under a foot of water, and muck, sand and what not.

I also did come across, some R15's having rear brake caliper covers, like the ones on the Apache. Just makes one go bonkers! And I don't have any of those, no caliper covers, no shims. Dayum Yamaha!

Time to hunt or steal the shims I guess.

Cheers!
VJ

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I don't exactly remember who it was, but someone from the ZMA thread was using an old ATM card cut to shape.

It just seemed like too much work at the time, so I didn't take that route.

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I HAVE CUT A TIN PLATE FROM THE ASIAN PAINTS LID and gave it a U Shape and placed it for Caliper holder with Fevikwik which reduced the NOISE by 50%. Then again I opeded the Brake Pads.and created metal jackets with same TIN Lid IN ALMOST Same shape of the Brake Pad.I have attached such 2 tin plate brake shoe covers. I fit them on the bike and tried braking at a speed of 90plus.

The brakes are awesome and working with 100% precision. The sound is 0. and the wheel is fantastically smooth like a new one.

Unfortunately the YAMAHA SERVICE GUYS dont know our bikes have these 3 parts so does the YAMAHA SERVICE CENTER. I have reached the CEO, YAMAHA MOTORS for this and even he is unaware of such parts where the YAMAHA WEBSITE shows properly in their brake component diagram that these 3 things exist.

LONG LIVE YAMAHA where SC guys are so poorly educated and the SC guys are unaware. We are at the peril of YAMAHA for believing in people who dont know bikes.

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

No point messaging the CEO of Yamaha. It's just asking too much. A CEO's work is completely independent from that of R&D Department and what not, though he oversees the health and well being of his company. I understand your frustration regarding parts not being available. But, you have to keep one thing in mind, not all parts will be available as a single entity. Some parts come as a whole or as a set, even though the part you might be wanting is as insignificant as a special pin or a special nut, as an example.

One thing I do agree with is poor training from the SVC part to the service personnel. Not all the service men are skilled in picking the finer details in a given training and what not, and implement it in the real word, which, well, is a story for another day.

Can you post a picture of the U clamp that you made yourself?

Cheers!
VJ

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The CEO/MD Yamaha India Corp personally called me and sent his message to the local Authorized Seervice Center from where I received an apology yesternight . They came today morning and collected my vehicle from my Garage and have taken to the service center. They would get the entire set replaced FOC and deliver the vehicle to my home by today evening.

I am havinfg 17 years of Corporate experience and i think I am well connected and can solve these issues at this level.The SC guys who did this would be looked into for misguiding Customer and estimating the budget to Rs.11k for caliper change and fork change.

Thats how you deal service center guys in INDIA.

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

That's a tale that took a turn for good. I am glad you were able to at least hold them by their neck and get it sorted. Do let us know what was replaced and the overall feedback. It's lovely to at least know that the top brass was able to address your query in a polite way and make sure your issue was getting addressed. We can appreciate Yamaha on this gesture. Being a CEO, they can "junk" your mail in a millisecond as if nothing happened, but they made sure they take heed to address the issue, which should definitely be appreciated.

Cheers!
VJ

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Good job man, very very few people do take up their complaints professionally in writing to appropriate authorities, many are happy simply ranting on social media
if your brake pads came with the shims/backing plates then you should definitely be using them. sometimes they (pad backing plate, the metal spring clips) get lost and can be a pain finding them individually.
Let's hope they fix it properly, and do let us know the final outcome of how/what they repaired/replaced it.
about 'action' being taken on the svc guys, nothing will be done to them.. they will continue their monkeying

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

Surely lets see if they solve it or bluff me . Whatever be the outcome , I would post photos of what they have done to the rear braking platform with the bike. Lets see how is the treatment of the bike.

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

Good morning , my bike’s seat is too hard and I am feeling uncomfortable while riding the bike especially in the city and highways too . Two months back , i have put the foam sheet but still it dint satisfy me ! I have googled and searched for gel seat for R15s, they have only for R15 single seat version ! Pls help me !

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

Got a Call from YAMAHA MD : Sanjay Singh
Went to Service Center .
1. Got VIP Support.
2. Offered me a Chair Immediately
3. Took me to the service bay
4. Asked me to narrate every problem 1 by 1 and solved each one with 0 errors.

Changed my Engine Oil to YAMALUBE, changed my Air filter and Oil Filter.
Changed my ClutchCable.
Changed my Clutch set.
Changed my Brake Oils. '
Changed my Coolant.
Inspected my Discs and Calipers.
Arranged my Brackets and Brake Pad Packets.
Aligned my wheel.
Gave me a Black Paint Job.
Changed my Mud Guard, Changed my Fairing sides to Matte Black.

Thanks to YAMAHA for this VIP support and yes now my bike ROARS on road.


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My Bike Now post YAMAHA treatment looks like a Beast and runs like a Beast.


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You can go ahead and ask extra cushioning on the Front and back with Pinned seat availability. This has multiple color options but to be frank you wont feel comfortable after extra cushioning as your Legs wont lonk with the Fuel Tank to actually get the experience on road.

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So those brake pad shim/backing plates were available as a separate spare or do they come with a set of new pads? or was it removed from another bike and installed in yours ?

Re: Yamaha YZF- R15 S Owners Reviews and Experiences

Removed and placed.

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That's indeed a satisfying list of procedures carried out. I am surprised, all this was done for free and on a goodwill basis? Secondly, the matte black scheme, did they repaint the side fairings or replace it with a new one? Rest assured, I'd like to know the CEO email ID to which you sent the mail.

Cheers!
VJ