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  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by Logesh Kumar View Post
    Can a sprocket worn out within 8k Kms? I don't think so.
    Its a consumable, so technically yes though unlikely.

    A friends P220 had its sprockets changed just after 10k km's whereas the set on mine are currently 22.5k km's and had to be adjusted only once with loads of life left.

    The sprockets tend to wear down prematurely if you ride in the tallest gear at low RPM's predominantly as observed from both our cases as he rides sedately in final gear whereas I redline while overtaking in lower gears and always keep the motorcycle in the power band.

    The other difference between our usage patterns is that he lubes chain more frequently than me using Motul chain clean/lube whereas I don't bother cleaning just gear oil whenever the chain starts to clatter.

    Originally posted by abdeali96 View Post
    I have noticed in my bike that when the engine is cool, the idle RPM is higher and as a ride and the engine heats up, the idle RPM goes down.
    That's a symptom of running rich, reset AFR to factory setting if you feel that the ASC might've messed with it, you can confirm the same by inspecting spark plug.

    But before all I presume you've been using commonsense and changing consumables judiciously because unless that's the case your tuning would not go off just like that unless fiddled with.
    Motorcycling Experience:
    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
    Adios Comrades!
    A.P. 2018

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    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

      Originally posted by abdeali96 View Post
      I own a apache rtr 200, finished 19k kilometres.

      I am recently facing a few issues with my bike.

      First of all, I notice that when I drive through very crowded areas(jam packed traffic) my engine heats up a lot and idle RPM reduces below 1k and if I let go of the throttle the engine stalls in 2-3 seconds.

      I have noticed in my bike that when the engine is cool, the idle RPM is higher and as a ride and the engine heats up, the idle RPM goes down.

      Sometimes my bike doesn’t start when I put the fuel valve in ON position, even though there is a lot of petrol. When I switch to reserve the engine starts.

      Other problems are:

      1.There a lot of Vibrations in my bike at 5k+ rpm

      2.The digital console Clock resets very often, and during the past 2-3 days it resets every 2-5 minutes while driving. When my bike is running the digital console shuts down for a second and then starts up again just like when we put the key into ignition.


      3.The Gear shaft of my bike has gotten very hard, giving me a hard time shifting gears. The real problem arrives when my bike is idle and I want to switch to neutral gear from the 1st gear. No matter how hard a push the gear lever it won’t go into neutral. Sometime I am afraid I might break the gear lever by applying so much force. To switch to neutral I have to set the bike in motion by releasing the clutch a little and then only I can engage neutral. And switching gears while riding on higher rpms give me ‘khat khat’ sound.

      4.My AFR screw is jammed. What should I do about this.


      Please help me identify the problems why these things are occurring and how do I solve them
      RPM fluctuation is Improper tuning.. Try changing the AFR screw alongwith fuel screw. Change the spark plug to a better one.


      Other problems are:

      1.There a lot of Vibrations in my bike at 5k+ rpm - I HAVE NO IDEA MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN COMMENT.

      2.The digital console Clock resets very often, and during the past 2-3 days it resets every 2-5 minutes while driving. When my bike is running the digital console shuts down for a second and then starts up again just like when we put the key into ignition.

      - This can be due to some loose connection in the wiring. Better get it checked thoroughly as it can lead to short circuit.


      3.The Gear shaft of my bike has gotten very hard, giving me a hard time shifting gears. The real problem arrives when my bike is idle and I want to switch to neutral gear from the 1st gear. No matter how hard a push the gear lever it won’t go into neutral. Sometime I am afraid I might break the gear lever by applying so much force. To switch to neutral I have to set the bike in motion by releasing the clutch a little and then only I can engage neutral. And switching gears while riding on higher rpms give me ‘khat khat’ sound.

      - Please check the oil level. My bike oil level lessens every fortnight and when the oil is less bike is more rough. Gears are more hard.


      4.My AFR screw is jammed. What should I do about this.

      - Use WD 40 or Any Crab / rust spray to loosen the screw.

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      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by abdeali96 View Post
        1.There a lot of Vibrations in my bike at 5k+ rpm
        Can happen if running rich.

        2.The digital console Clock resets very often, and during the past 2-3 days it resets every 2-5 minutes while driving. When my bike is running the digital console shuts down for a second and then starts up again just like when we put the key into ignition.
        Use a multimeter and check the electricals but first check the fuses, if all is in order and issue persists then check the ignition switch connector.

        3.The Gear shaft of my bike has gotten very hard, giving me a hard time shifting gears. The real problem arrives when my bike is idle and I want to switch to neutral gear from the 1st gear. No matter how hard a push the gear lever it won’t go into neutral. Sometime I am afraid I might break the gear lever by applying so much force. To switch to neutral I have to set the bike in motion by releasing the clutch a little and then only I can engage neutral. And switching gears while riding on higher rpms give me ‘khat khat’ sound.
        This is called a constant mesh transmission for a reason, since its cassette type the rear wheel would have to be in motion for the shifts to happen smoothly, hence why you need to at least roll the motorcycle/ release clutch a bit to shift to neutral.

        By applying undue force on the shifter lever you're just prematurely wearing down components, if you manage to bend the shifter fork then your motorcycle would never shift right again unless the shifter fork is replaced and for that you'd have to split the crank case.

        4.My AFR screw is jammed. What should I do about this.
        Use a penetrative fluid like WD40 or something and then try removing it, if you manage to mess up the AFR cavity then even a new AFR screw wouldn't work well for you, you'd have to replace the carburetor.

        Please help me identify the problems why these things are occurring and how do I solve them
        A little patience and a bit more of commonsense goes a long way when it comes to motorcycles.

        Regards,
        A.P.
        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
          Can someone say which is the best tyre offering superior dry and wet grip ??
          Michelin PSR(Pilot Street Radial) 130/70
          RevZ S 130/70 - 60% the cost of PSR, 90% of the performance, 150% value for money.

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          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by Zapps View Post
            Michelin PSR(Pilot Street Radial) 130/70
            RevZ S 130/70 - 60% the cost of PSR, 90% of the performance, 150% value for money.
            Well ,how does the MRF overperforms the Michelin ?

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            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
              That's a symptom of running rich, reset AFR to factory setting if you feel that the ASC might've messed with it, you can confirm the same by inspecting spark plug.

              But before all I presume you've been using commonsense and changing consumables judiciously because unless that's the case your tuning would not go off just like that unless fiddled with.
              How to check the AFR setting is rich ? And what's the optimum engine idling you advise?

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              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                How to check the AFR setting is rich ?
                If rich the idle would drop when warm, if lean the idle would rise when warm.
                And what's the optimum engine idling you advise?
                Manufacturer recommendation.
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                Adios Comrades!
                A.P. 2018

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                • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                  There probably won't be any short term problems. It's more to do with long term ownership. If planning to keep for more than a few years, check again. If not planning to keep it, ride on, but let the 2nd buyer know what has been done.
                  Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                  It's just marketing gimmicks ,I hope so. Anyhow the recommended grade may be 10w30 but I am sure 20w50 won't create any hazzle buddy.


                  I've finished 1000+ Kms as of now and I didn't find any problems still now.

                  (P.S) Apart from the mentioned Grade other grades 10w30, 40,50 will also works fine but somehow I've choosen this let's see,how far it goes.

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                  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                    Well you could.drill the screw and weld it out from its place
                    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    Can happen if running rich.



                    Use a multimeter and check the electricals but first check the fuses, if all is in order and issue persists then check the ignition switch connector.



                    This is called a constant mesh transmission for a reason, since its cassette type the rear wheel would have to be in motion for the shifts to happen smoothly, hence why you need to at least roll the motorcycle/ release clutch a bit to shift to neutral.

                    By applying undue force on the shifter lever you're just prematurely wearing down components, if you manage to bend the shifter fork then your motorcycle would never shift right again unless the shifter fork is replaced and for that you'd have to split the crank case.



                    Use a penetrative fluid like WD40 or something and then try removing it, if you manage to mess up the AFR cavity then even a new AFR screw wouldn't work well for you, you'd have to replace the carburetor.



                    A little patience and a bit more of commonsense goes a long way when it comes to motorcycles.

                    Regards,
                    A.P.

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                    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                      Originally posted by vins1120 View Post
                      Well you could.drill the screw and weld it out from its place
                      You still risk scoring the cavity.
                      Motorcycling Experience:
                      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                      Adios Comrades!
                      A.P. 2018

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                      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                        Well ,how does the MRF overperforms the Michelin ?
                        Not over perform, it offers atleast 90% at 60% of the cost, this is from other's experience. I have the RevZ S on my P 220, and it never slips.

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                        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                          But cheaper than the new carb
                          Also the last option
                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          You still risk scoring the cavity.

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                          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                            Originally posted by Vipergts07 View Post
                            There probably won't be any short term problems. It's more to do with long term ownership. If planning to keep for more than a few years, check again. If not planning to keep it, ride on, but let the 2nd buyer know what has been done.
                            I see , but I don't have an idea of selling it..... eventhough If I upgrade to another one!!!

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                            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                              Can we use cutting oil to clean the chain in rtr 200? btw do rtr 200 has o ring chain?

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                              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
                                Can we use cutting oil to clean the chain in rtr 200? btw do rtr 200 has o ring chain?
                                I am not sure about cutting oil but as per the mechanic there is no O ring and hence he asked me clean with ordinary cloth and apply the lube.

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