Re: Long term owners' ownership experience.

That's no problem!!

Wishing you goodluck in advance for your upcoming purchase of this lovely machine.
I too am giving it a thought, to buy the BS-VI version but I'm pretty sure it's going to push the cost upwards of atleast 15-20K. But the package is going to be worth it with FI, LED headlight, the rumoured Bluetooth enabled console and lesser emissions.

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Every minor niggle will drive me crazy, as I want my ride to be near perfect all the time. No matter how old it gets. It's never a matter how the company delivers the quality it's about what standard you choose to maintain. Of course it will take time and effort. ASC are just amateurs with license, they employ teen age boys for servicing and only few experienced guys in the shed. Only thing better with ASC is you can push them as long as it takes to deliver you the quality and you can 100% blame them if any minor niggles if you are servicing with just one ASC through out the course. Even during my last service, they messed up the chain slack, gear shifter, front sprocket and missed to change oil. I've visited them 3 times already to adjust all these things. Still front sprocket is making noise and I'm going to followup with them again. If there any noise anything other than engine and muffler, I'll standing in front of ASC with a villain look. They will try fix that asap as they know me otherwise I'll keep on coming.

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Hehehe, similar here, any weird noise or out of the ordinary performance and I will not feel like riding the bike freely until its fixed... I will need your advice if I do end up buying this as it shows your location as Chennai and I work in Mahindra City, so will need guidance for purchase and service based out of Chennai. As of now, the faceoff is between the BS-VI RTR and Gixxer 250 in exchange for my 2 year old Fz25 .

And if the BS-VI RTR is going to look as per this article https://indianautosblog.com/bs-vi-tv...-spied-p318185, I highly doubt it,with those evil as looking eyebrows.In my personal opinion, they spoiled a beauty

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

I have shared the images of my rtr 200's spark plug. I have done 8300km with this plug. Can anyone tell me how is the tuning of my bike - lean, rich or optimum? Can I continue with the same or should I replace?

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

That's a desirable shade. Don't change anything as far as state of tune goes, as for the SP itself, change every 10k km's intervals.

Do share details about the SP in question, IIRC RTR's used to have those twin electrode plugs, didn't know they'd been replaced.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Thanks for the comment on the spark plug color. I also changed mine yesterday and it was very similar to this one.

Apache 160/180 have a double electrode spark plug (UR5DDC) while the Apache 160/200 4v have a single electrode spark plug (UR4KE). They both can be used interchangeably.

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BS-VI RTR looks ugly as hell. I would personally choose Suzuki Gixxer 250 for it's fully matured no nonsense design and their approach towards the engine performance.
Choose Gixxer without a second thought.

Edit:
Seeing that you are moving from fz25, RTR will be a complete downgrade. Never come below to a lower CC engine. Always choose the higher CC than you are currently in, otherwise you shouldn't change your bike unless it is complete necessary.
Look into RR310, that one is a screamer. An affordable premium bike. A complete package and looks stunning in person.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Thanks bro. As Ayrus mentioned, RTR 200 comes with single electrode SP only. I changed the spark plug because I faced cold starting problem. But even after changing SP, there seems to be no improve ment in cold starts.

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I had run on the Double Electrode UR5DDC on my P220(Both plugs) for 10k km's before a fellow enthusiast gifted me CR9E's after which its been smooth sailing.

Issue I faced with the Bosch dual electrode was that the motorcycle performed well within city limits but on the highways top end was severely restricted to under 120kmph, after changing though all was well as it seems Bosch has the temperature scale in reverse compared to NGK i.e the Bosch 5 is hotter than the NGK 9.

But that shouldn't be a bother for you guys as its the manufacturer recommended plugs where as I was simply experimenting.

As for cold starts, simply crank longer or use choke if absolutely necessary, that is how the world works, you could mess with the AFR all you want for temporary relief but that won't do much good when all things are considered. Better to live with it than let any random mechanic mess with your state of tune.

Ride Safe,
A.P.

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I agree with all that you said.
The reason I want to switch Fz25 might sound idiotic, but I just don't enjoy riding it half as much as my old RTR 160. Especially in corners with no feedback or feeling.

I recently rode my Fz and a friends Gixxer back to back around curves. Yes, I did miss the power of the Fz, but the fun and feeling I had riding the Gixxer made me realize, I am ok with lower power as long as the bike connects with me. A good pair of tyres might improve Fz's handling but I highly doubt I will still have the connect or confidence as an RTR or Gixxer. Not sure if people will get me. 😁

The only reason I am not blindly going for the Gixxer 250 over the RTR is because I need to try it once around corners and confirm its lively, fun and smooth like its younger sibling.

I prefer only naked and hence didn't consider RR. RTR 310 might come by next year.

But for me 200-250cc is the sweet spot considering performance, efficiency and cost of ownership. I haven't felt the need for any more power or tech, especially for our roads. My Fz25 has always kept me happy in this way minus the handling or feel.

Duke 250 ruled out as I feel I would have to comparatively put in a lot more effort to keep it in tip top shape in the long term.

Plus, I prefer an oil cooled engine as it will be easier to maintain with no worries of coolant or related stuff.

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I don't think the Gixxer 250 would be as agile as you'd want it to be. But do take a test ride to confirm that.

Apache 200 really shines on the handling department. If you are going for this one, buy the BS4 bike. The BS6 bike may have more features but will definitely lose a lot on power. Even if the power figures remain same, the throttle response will be sluggish.

The other bikes that I'd recommend, purely based on handling are
Apache 160 4v
Gixxer 155
MT15

As mentioned earlier, it's better to buy a BS4 bike (whatever it is), as BS6 will lose on power and/or throttle response.

Also congrats that you belong to the rare segment of bikers that understands that power and cc isn't everything.

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It is until you taste the true power.
The feeling I get when I ride my Interceptor is no way match to anything.
I don't use it often as it (the power) sometimes consumes me and drives me crazy. It is like you are high on drugs.
Sometimes I would go in 120+ in city roads neglecting all the risks. It's a pure drug.
Sometimes you are afraid to be high, and sometimes you just want to be high.
If you can control your mind, if you can control your throttle, high powered bikes are all about making you feel like GOD.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Yes, Saree Guard available. You need to keep on checking its availability at the service center

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Hey Brother,

Thanks for the details. Please narrow me down to the below queries:

1. What do you mean by periodical maintenance of chain? Is the proper cleaning and lubing at every 500km

2. I can feel the engine heat during bumper to bumper traffic. What I have to ask the ASC to rectify it?

3. My bike throttle sound isn't as like the new bike. It is a bit more noisy. Does it with every bike?

4. I know the gear sensors and fuel sensors are bad, I dont know how the ASC had mistuned the fuel reserve meter as Trip F doesn't display and the bike comes in reserve post 10.5lts where the manual says it should be 9.5lts.

5. My bike also has 10k+ ODO and 5th Service is due. What and all checks do I have to ask ASC?

6. ASC doesn't clean the chain sprockets during the free service, do they do it if requested on extra charge?

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Can any1 invite me to the WhatsApp group as I'm unable to join by the given link.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Hey everyone,

It has been 14 months since I got my apache 200 4v race edition and my bike's battery is dead.

Since last 3-4 days even after running bike for 10-15 kms, it wasn't getting charged and I had to start it on 1st gear after pushing it till 8-10kms speed.

Got it checked at SVC, they asked to try and get it charged once. But even after that self isn't working.

I was worried because it has been just 14 months and battery is dead. I am not too sure about the reason too.
Is it because my bike was not much into running and has been kept still for 10-15 days 3-4 times in past year?

Anyone else had such issue?

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Batteries don’t like to sit idle for days.You can try disconnecting the battery terminals if you are leaving the bike idle for long periods of time as it reduces the level of discharging.

Do check your wiring for any loose terminals/connections.etc as that can cause batteries to lose charge quicker over time.

You can try claiming warranty on the battery and get a replacement or you can go and get a new battery otherwise.