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**peacelover73** · 10-31-2016, 12:39 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Quality of TVS bikes is very poor. Like some of them mentioned above about the silencer welding. Even look at the 1 years or few months old TVS RTR bikes on street. They look like shit! I felt that in general their two wheelers lack that quality. Jupiter scooters for example, they are pretty quickly.

**manuj303** · 10-31-2016, 01:32 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

You are wrong about rtr200. The quality is pretty good for a 1 lac rs bike. I am a first time tvs owner as well and was very skeptical about quality and reliability. All bikes rust a little or burnt exhaust with time. This one is no exception. There could be minor finishing issues if you will nit pick.

**Logan01** · 10-31-2016, 01:42 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by manuj303 View Post

Ride upto 60kmph below 5k rpm during the break in period. No vibs felt. Yes gearing is about the same as you mentioned. Need to switch to gear2 post 10kmph and gear 3 post 28kmph. Bike stopping in gear is false neutral and a common problem not sure will get resolved or not. Other that you will notice chain noise on gear 2. Not so smooth shift from gear1 to neutral to gear2 and vica versa. Gear shifts are pretty smooth gear 3 onwards. Lastly engine heat during high traffic which is normal. The biggest issue is cold start problem with this bike atleast for me. Once the bike is warm it is one push start. Hope this helps.

Thanks bro..

Bike really feel choked upto gear 3. Is it common problem of break in period or i am thinking too much?
Engine heating is not so much, it was just my first day suspicious mind game.
My bike started in 2nd try in cold start. But manual says always start with choke when engine is cold.

**manuj303** · 10-31-2016, 02:27 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Common problem upto gear 2. Feels good post gear2. Should improve with service. I have not yet done first service so will report improvements after service. My main issues are cold start problems and false neutrals.

**Logan01** · 10-31-2016, 02:32 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by manuj303 View Post

You are wrong about rtr200. The quality is pretty good for a 1 lac rs bike. I am a first time tvs owner as well and was very skeptical about quality and reliability. All bikes rust a little or burnt exhaust with time. This one is no exception. There could be minor finishing issues if you will nit pick.

I do agree with you that the quality is good for 1 lac rs.

But this is no excuse to do this: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/attachme...016_084343.jpg

Almost all bike have this shit...
And this is not after a year or so, you will get new bike with this...

**manuj303** · 10-31-2016, 02:36 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I understand but this is hidden by the plastic covers. I tried to look at mine and will try again. Did not find mine similar to this one. Yes its burnt or welded but not to this degree.

**peacelover73** · 10-31-2016, 02:57 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Logan01 View Post

I do agree with you that the quality is good for 1 lac rs.

But this is no excuse to do this: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/attachme...016_084343.jpg

Almost all bike have this shit...
And this is not after a year or so, you will get new bike with this...

Oh that's looks terrible! [emoji33] That's definitely poor quality. It's due to negligence and sheer lack of consideration for the customers. This is why I hate TVS or anyone underestimate their customers.

**dineshaugustin** · 10-31-2016, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by peacelover73 View Post

Oh that's looks terrible! [emoji33] That's definitely poor quality. It's due to negligence and sheer lack of consideration for the customers. This is why I hate TVS or anyone underestimate their customers.

Take a look at the 1000CC exotic bikes and then you can comment on this. its the same for all bikes and cars.

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Originally posted by Logan01 View Post

Drove my beast for about 40kms today..😀😀

Things I noticed during my ride.
Bike started crying for gear change at around 10kmph for 2nd gear, 20kmph for 3rd gear and 30kmph for 4th gear.
Noticed some vibration on foot peg and lower area of engine.
Does this is common in run in period?

Second thing, what actually matter in run in period, is it RPM or kmph?
Bcz i was able to cross 50kmph below 4k rpm only on 5th gear.

One more weird thing I noticed, I was trying to start bike in neutral and it gave me jerk as if it in first gear. Don't know what was that but noticed two time continuously after that gone.

Apache is a short geared machine. so you need to shift the gear quickly. the jerk is due to false neutral and in most cases it will go once the bike is settled in.

**Ravii** · 10-31-2016, 10:12 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by rakowli View Post

Can you all please confirm what top speed have you achieved till now. Just want to know how much fast RTR can go. I have achieved 126 KMPH max and still some juice left but couldn't go more due to traffic.

125+ kph my hornet can also go...

**Shashank K R** · 10-31-2016, 10:48 AM

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That is called speedo error. And why are you talking about hornet's top speed in the RTR thread? Why even bother about top speed actually?

**Logan01** · 10-31-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

Apache is a short geared machine. so you need to shift the gear quickly. the jerk is due to false neutral and in most cases it will go once the bike is settled in.

Thanks bro...

I think that I need not to worry then except for few cosmetic things.

**peacelover73** · 10-31-2016, 11:23 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

Take a look at the 1000CC exotic bikes and then you can comment on this. its the same for all bikes and cars.

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Apache is a short geared machine. so you need to shift the gear quickly. the jerk is due to false neutral and in most cases it will go once the bike is settled in.

Why to look for high end bikes? Take a look at RE exhausts, they are very neat. This looks like a piece of junk from used item seller.

**Abishek94** · 10-31-2016, 11:34 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Ravii View Post

125+ kph my hornet can also go...

Congratulations

**Shashank K R** · 10-31-2016, 11:47 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by peacelover73 View Post

Why to look for high end bikes? Take a look at RE exhausts, they are very neat. This looks like a piece of junk from used item seller.

RE exhausts are different. They're chromed. Just cut an RE exhaust, weld it back and don't chrome it. It'll be the same as what you're seeing.

**sambit** · 10-31-2016, 12:15 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Logan01 View Post

I do agree with you that the quality is good for 1 lac rs.

But this is no excuse to do this: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/attachme...016_084343.jpg

Almost all bike have this shit...
And this is not after a year or so, you will get new bike with this...

Dude,I own a CBR250R. The silencer and the clipons rusted so badly, that I had to touch up paint within 1 year. Those are minor things, which mostly happen due to bad finishing at weldings.

BTW, took a TD of RTR 200 for 30 kms. Amazing bike that is. Honestly, couldnot find a performance difference between the 180 & 200, but it is Damn smooth, to cruise at >100 kmph all day long, where the 180 used to vibrate. My friend upgraded from this 180 to 200.

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Originally posted by Ravii View Post

125+ kph my hornet can also go...

Yes, even RTR 180 has true top speed about 126 kmph. 200's Must be around 130 kph only. RTR is never about top speed. Its about, how quick you reach those speeds.

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