Good decision . The White Duke is less flashier than the Orange Duke - at least to my eyes.

On your question -
Find out how many of those 1100 kms have been at over 8000 rpms, and that too on a cold bike. Very difficult to judge really, so I would say get the new one for the paltry difference.

Hi All,

I have written a context and question part you can skip context if you want.

Context
I have decided to go with Duke 390 from CBR250R , I just love the raw power and I got bored with CBR and it has become old as its 2011 model. I did took test ride of bikes like Kawasaki Ninja 300, BMW G310r and RE Twins. The reason I dropped Kawasaki is because of service as there's only one service center in Chennai and same goes for BMW apart from being over priced (in my opinion) and higher service costs. The RE twins on other hand are different bikes and pretty good but not something I found comfortable ( I'm just 5'7) to use in city which is where I would be using the bike mostly and also I'm not into classic bikes. There was also the CB300R but it doesn't excite me like Duke does, the only downside is Duke is pretty loud styling but that's something I can live with and it fits perfectly what I want in bike right now.

I have been following the thread and found that whatever issues were found in 2017 models were fixed via software updates and also were given extended warranty of 3 years and also most issues are resolved in 2018 model onwards and 2019 model has slight changes like new grab rail etc. So its safe to say KTM listens to its customers which is one more reason to go for KTM.

Question
I'm considering both second hand and new bike for purchase, I found a 2018 model with just 1100 kms and owner is asking for 2.5 lakhs which is negotiable and new 2019 model on road costs 2.88 lakhs in Chennai which includes the 5 year insurance.

What are the things I should be looking out for if I decided to buy second hand bike ?
What would be the appropriate offer that I can make for the bike I mentioned so that I would sound reasonable ( I'm personally think around 2.2-2.3 lakhs )?
Last but not least which one is the XBhpian's approved authorized service center for KTM in Chennai ?

Regards,
Mohan

Hi All,

I have been facing some issues lately on my 2017 duke 390. Please let me know if someone else has faced them or can help me solve them.

1. After cold start, after about 15-20 sec, the bike automatically revs to 4000-5000 rpm and then calms down. This has started recently from 10-15 days. I went to SVC. They updated the software and told me that as per new guidelines, once the software is updated we need to disconnect battery and let the bike stay for 10-15 mins.
Did the same and the issue did not reproduce at that time. But it started again from next day. I am not sure if this is a sensor issue or something else.

2. Even after replacing the headlamp fixtures ( spring etc replaced during monsoon updates last year) twice, the headlamp again has started moving. This creates a buzzing noise on the run. Not sure why this happens.

3. There is kat-kat noise coming somewhere from the back. This is more prominent when the bike goes over the pot holes. The SVC guys told that this is chain noise and the lower part of the chain gets struck with the metal part above it. But i am not sure.. I checked and there is no other loose part. (I even packed the toolkit).

Can any body please guide me if they had some solution to these?

Regards,
J

One of major downsides of getting duke is amount of attention. I previously had r15 and was expecting less attention than that cause its faired bike. But its not even comparable.

I have been stopped on road by people to say silly things cause I am riding duke. Its bothersome.

Hello guys,

What is the latest software version that your bike is on now ? Mine is on V41 and in the 2nd service that was done yesterday I was told that bike was updated to latest available version. But it is still on V41

Console doesn't show incoming calls at all. I use OnePlus 5 , running on android pie beta version. I am not sure if this is the problem with mobile software or bikes.

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I hear similar noise these days from back when bike goes on pot holes. Service centre guy told me that there were no issues and they tightened certain parts.

Automatic revs are present in my 2018 model as well after cold start. What software version is your bike on ? V41 ?

Yeah I understand there's a stigma with KTM, people will say things like "the bike is unsafe" etc there was a guy who was explaining people on Quora that ABS is bad because it causes sudden breaking I was like .
I had the attention issue with CBR250R in early days that's why I started ride with a camera for past couple of years , the moment you say that you have camera and everything has been recorded you should see their faces melt.

Hello guys,

What is the latest software version that your bike is on now ? Mine is on V41 and in the 2nd service that was done yesterday I was told that bike was updated to latest available version. But it is still on V41

Console doesn't show incoming calls at all. I use OnePlus 5 , running on android pie beta version. I am not sure if this is the problem with mobile software or bikes.

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I hear similar noise these days from back when bike goes on pot holes. Service centre guy told me that there were no issues and they tightened certain parts.

Automatic revs are present in my 2018 model as well after cold start. What software version is your bike on ? V41 ?

I had this noise issue coming from the back side in the early days and then i removed the toolkit and carry it with me in my bag and the sound has gone away.
Incidentally i had done my 1st service also that time, so i m not sure was it the tool kit or any part (chain/metal part) making the noise .

Ride around with the toolkit removed for sometime and check if its still coming..

Tried it with toolkit removed. Still the issue is there.

Mine is 5V42. i dont use my phone while riding so i have never connected it to the bike.

On automatic revving front, something strange happened today.
After cold start if i start the bike and switch it off immediately from engine cutoff switch and restart again, the issue is not reproducible. i.e. it is only reproducing after a cold 1st start. If i switch it off and restart immediately, then the bike remains at idle during warm up something in the range of 2000 which is normal. Don't know why this is happening. Seems like it is because of the software only.

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Tried it with toolkit removed. Still the issue is there.

Duke does rev up a bit on its own during cold start. It used to go upto 4k during winters. Not now. I guess its fi system trying to stop it from shutting down like a carbed bike.

If it does not stabilize after 2-3 mins then its an issue. If it does i guess its all right.

On automatic revving front, something strange happened today.
After cold start if i start the bike and switch it off immediately from engine cutoff switch and restart again, the issue is not reproducible. i.e. it is only reproducing after a cold 1st start. If i switch it off and restart immediately, then the bike remains at idle during warm up something in the range of 2000 which is normal. Don't know why this is happening. Seems like it is because of the software only.

Hi All,

3. There is kat-kat noise coming somewhere from the back. This is more prominent when the bike goes over the pot holes. The SVC guys told that this is chain noise and the lower part of the chain gets struck with the metal part above it. But i am not sure.. I checked and there is no other loose part. (I even packed the toolkit).

Can any body please guide me if they had some solution to these?

Regards,
J

Mine is 5V42. i dont use my phone while riding so i have never connected it to the bike.

On automatic revving front, something strange happened today.
After cold start if i start the bike and switch it off immediately from engine cutoff switch and restart again, the issue is not reproducible. i.e. it is only reproducing after a cold 1st start. If i switch it off and restart immediately, then the bike remains at idle during warm up something in the range of 2000 which is normal. Don't know why this is happening. Seems like it is because of the software only.

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Tried it with toolkit removed. Still the issue is there.

All EFI equipped vehicles have this feature called "auto-choke". This is to make sure the engine is warmed up faster automatically rather than manual intervention, as in carburetted bikes where one is required to use a choke in cold starts. Be it car or bike, on an FI system, depending on the engine temperature and ambient air temperature, the idle will go up a few hundreds to thousand RPM till the achieved temperature is reached and then the vehicle returns back to normal idling RPM range. The behavior you're observing is perfectly normal.



That khat khat sound mostly is due to chain slapping under the swing arm, when we have a lengthier chain coupled with a loose slack, sometimes, the chain can slap against the underside of the swingarm and make a "khat khat" which is normal. Get your chain cleaned and then lubed, will definitely help reduce the slack noise that you're hearing.

Cheers!
VJ

Hi B7ACKTHORN,

Is there possibility that the chain gets loose in 1500 kms itself , as i have just done 1500 post my last chain tightening and i regularly lube the chain,, i mean it seems like a very small time period. Also can using more lube end up in making the chain loose faster ?

Thank you.

Lubing in no way affects a chain life negatively. It only helps the chain run more smoother and less noisy. KTM recommends check chain slack every 500 to 600 KMS. A chain that is lubed well will reduce friction which is what causes wear. Reduced friction is achieved by good lubrication and it helps prolong the life of the chain.

Cheers!
VJ