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  • #16
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

    [QUOTE=RebellionRiderRTR;1347219]Yes I have it but it's due to new the new machine I guess but it's fine as I m able to see some reduction in heat issue with machine


    Hi all, I'm new to this xbhp. Hope this will be a very good platform to connect.

    I have taken a dual disk - 160 4v (red). Bike feels amazing, braking is also good.
    But I think the engine becomes very hot. It is like a oven after I come from office (14kms ride, medium traffic). Heating is the only concern and I've asked the service centre, they said the same thing (new engine - all parts new and all that) however on stressing it is too hot even for a new engine, they asked me come and they would do a heat test something. Well I'm planning to go this Saturday for that.

    Please note : I don't drive rash and yeah I follow break-in and haven't crossed 60kmph yet.

    Let me know if you all faced the same problem.

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    • #17
      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

      [QUOTE=Lin;1347587]
      Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
      Yes I have it but it's due to new the new machine I guess but it's fine as I m able to see some reduction in heat issue with machine


      Hi all, I'm new to this xbhp. Hope this will be a very good platform to connect.

      I have taken a dual disk - 160 4v (red). Bike feels amazing, braking is also good.
      But I think the engine becomes very hot. It is like a oven after I come from office (14kms ride, medium traffic). Heating is the only concern and I've asked the service centre, they said the same thing (new engine - all parts new and all that) however on stressing it is too hot even for a new engine, they asked me come and they would do a heat test something. Well I'm planning to go this Saturday for that.

      Please note : I don't drive rash and yeah I follow break-in and haven't crossed 60kmph yet.

      Let me know if you all faced the same problem.
      Bro, i bought mine, Blue, Dual disc variant last month and i am 1 service old. So, i had the same heating issue, mechanic or others who told me said that same thing that we will have that heating before putting the engine oil after 1st service will reduce the engine heat but until than the metal minute elements present in the new machine (which is common) will burn along with the machine oil and as we run it or rev more the engine heating will be increasing. Once you put oil and make it refined, the machine will smooth its heating and gradually all the elements and chemicals will be observed and finally the heating issue should be resolved.

      I got max speed 110 on my machine as per techo and also i run 45 kms daily in moderate and stiff traffic situations and its working fine with me so i hope this will resolve your dilemma but anyways it wont stop you to get that heating test you said so please care to share the experience after the test and let us know how is it going on after that test.
      Safe ride,
      RebellionRiderRTR

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      • #18
        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

        [QUOTE=RebellionRiderRTR;1347589]
        Originally posted by Lin View Post

        Bro, i bought mine, Blue, Dual disc variant last month and i am 1 service old. So, i had the same heating issue, mechanic or others who told me said that same thing that we will have that heating before putting the engine oil after 1st service will reduce the engine heat but until than the metal minute elements present in the new machine (which is common) will burn along with the machine oil and as we run it or rev more the engine heating will be increasing. Once you put oil and make it refined, the machine will smooth its heating and gradually all the elements and chemicals will be observed and finally the heating issue should be resolved.

        I got max speed 110 on my machine as per techo and also i run 45 kms daily in moderate and stiff traffic situations and its working fine with me so i hope this will resolve your dilemma but anyways it wont stop you to get that heating test you said so please care to share the experience after the test and let us know how is it going on after that test.
        Hey thanks for the reply man!
        Today it was raining heavy in Hyd and I like to ride during this time. After doing like 5 kms or so, I was checking the engine heat if it was like before but it wasn't! Hahaha I know it is rainy but yeah it was relief.

        Whatever said I'm enjoying riding this bike alot, it never looses it's breath.
        Sure will check if this heat test can be done on Saturday. If I get it done will share the experience.

        Thankyou for sharing your experience.
        Ride safe!

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        • #19
          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

          [QUOTE=Lin;1347609]
          Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post

          Hey thanks for the reply man!
          Today it was raining heavy in Hyd and I like to ride during this time. After doing like 5 kms or so, I was checking the engine heat if it was like before but it wasn't! Hahaha I know it is rainy but yeah it was relief.

          Whatever said I'm enjoying riding this bike alot, it never looses it's breath.
          Sure will check if this heat test can be done on Saturday. If I get it done will share the experience.

          Thankyou for sharing your experience.
          Ride safe!
          Same here bro, yesterday it was hell in Hyderabad due to the rains as well as IKEA store opening created ruckus in means of traffic and unwanted attention towards hi-tech city from all around city. Yesterday i traveled around for 3 hours in rain and i was kind of expecting some engine heat cos its so cold and i can only able to get it some heat from machine only at that time of traffic and rain. Yeah, bike on other side even with petrol indication on also never showed signs of loosing me and the tyres are some what skiddy with the rains but not bad as they are able to hold on to the road other than i m breaking hard. Overall i m loving my machine.

          Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
          Gear on !!
          Safe ride,
          RebellionRiderRTR

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          • #20
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

            Hi guys, I am planning to upgrade from my honda unicorn 150cc. Many suggested me to go for 200cc bikes. But I am planning to stick to 150-160cc segment. I have shortlisted gixxer, hornet, fzs 150 fi and apache rtr 160 4v. I find it really hard to chose among these bikes. I have some queries regarding apache rtr 160 4v.
            1. What is the mileage if ridden at 60 to 70 kmph and mostly in cities?
            2. How much is the paid service cost?
            3. Does the mileage drop drastically as the engine clocks more kms unlike Hondas and yamahas?
            4. Is the engine reliable for long term? I am planning to keep for another 8 to 10 years.
            5.How is the maintenance? Is it easy or does it require constant care from the owner?
            6.Is it comfortable for long rides(both rider and pillion)?
            7.Does engine heats up a lot?
            Please post your answers.
            Last edited by vengymgen; 08-10-2018, 12:56 PM.

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            • #21
              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
              Hi guys, I have some queries regarding apache rtr 160 4v.
              1. What is the mileage can I get If I ride at 60 to 70 kmph and mostly in cities?
              2. How is the service cost.? Is it easy on pocket like honda.
              Sure bro,
              Mileage - based on company 60 - 65 kms max was the overall with mixed driving conditions but we observed 40 - 45 kms only around the users when driving is under 40-50 kms city in driving conditions so based on that i guess u can get around 35 - 40 kms atleast.

              Service Cost - Based on my 1st service, i got bill for 330 thats for machine oil and no labor charges till first 5 services so mostly that would be the thing and basically we have this Teflon coating options which cost 450 for 3 times coating flexibility in 1 year span so considering all service cost is comparatively same or little more to Honda.
              Safe ride,
              RebellionRiderRTR

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              • #22
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
                4. Is the engine reliable for long term? I am planning to keep for another 8 to 10 years.
                5.How is the maintenance? Is it easy or does it require constant care from the owner?
                Please post your answers.
                Hello, I am moving from a Honda (Dream Yuga) to Apache RTR 160 4V and went through similar thoughts. Regarding long term reliability the truth is no one can answer with certainty now as this is a relatively new 4 valve engine based on RTR 200. However my take is TVS is not new to making bikes. Long back they had partnership with Suzuki (whose base engine design I believe they still follow; you can observe that Hero engines follow Honda's base design). TVS had in the past come out with some reliable bikes like Victor and Fiero, many specimens of which are still running in our roads. So it mostly depends on how you take care of your bike. That leads to the answer for your next question. Constant care is always good, I mean not that you have to baby sit your bike but hear/look out for early signs of something going bad. Maintenance-wise I have looked at Apache's user manual and only additional item compared to a Honda is replace oil filter (Rs.40) at regular intervals. Others are standard stuff. But you can expect more effort in periodically cleaning and lubing the chain as Apache has open chain compared to Unicorn's fully covered.
                One more thing - TVS prescribes to change engine oil every 3000 Kms while for Honda it is 4000 Kms
                Last edited by rakeshchn; 08-10-2018, 05:19 PM.
                sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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                • #23
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                  Hello guys, I want to know that how are the vibes in 160RTR 4V? Is the bike as smooth as 200 RTR 4V?

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                  • #24
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                    Guys, I hope you are too busy with riding experience provided by RTR

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                    • #25
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                      Got my Racing Red Rear Drum version delivered on 13th Aug. So far bike did only 7 Kms from showroom to home and sitting in my garage because of non-stop rain You would have heard about the flood situation in Kerala.

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                      Guys wanted to share something useful I learned during the buying process. If you already have a 2 wheeler and getting no claim bonus (NCB) in your current insurance, you can take it with you to the new bike's insurance. Process is you need to apply for NCB certificate from your current insurance company and show it to the new one, check with the current insurer what documents they need to give you NCB certificate.
                      Otherwise you can decline the dealer insurance and insure the new bike with your current insurance to get NCB directly. I saved around 600 Rs by 50% NCB accumulated over last 5 years. And if I dont make any claims I can continue getting 50% NCB in coming years as well.
                      sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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                      • #26
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                        I have started riding my RTR 1604V and done around 150 Kms so far. Strictly following the running in info in manual, so max speed is less than 55KMPH and max RPM is 4500. Bike can cruise at 50 KMPH in 4K RPM. Engine is smooth in this range and gear box is slick and easy to shift. Since I have been riding a heel and toe shifter with all up pattern, still getting used to the toe shifter and 1 down 4 up pattern. But no big issues, thanks to the smooth gear box.

                        I have couple of questions to other owners

                        Bike needs a bit of throttle to start using push button or kick-start, even when its a warm start at any time of the day. Manual says you should start with throttle closed or a small amount of throttle. So not an issue, but in my experience with other two wheelers we dont need throttle open to start. whats your experience?

                        Idle RPM for the bike in cold or warm start condition is 1100-1200. But after riding for 10 mins or more and then idling its 1500-1700. I dont see a reason why it should increase with engine temperature and never see this with other two wheelers. Is it the same for you?
                        sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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                        • #27
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by chidafn View Post
                          Hello guys, I want to know that how are the vibes in 160RTR 4V? Is the bike as smooth as 200 RTR 4V?
                          Cant compare performance though but the similarity is par with 200 4v but 200 4v is entirely sports segment with slippery clutch and all but 160 4v commuterish race ride is so smooth on busy traffic roads that u wont feel any hurdle to get u out of the jams that smoothly with ease with any other machines and on highways as well where some vibes u may feel something around 80s but u will get it in control when u get to right momentum.

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                          Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
                          I have started riding my RTR 1604V and done around 150 Kms so far. Strictly following the running in info in manual, so max speed is less than 55KMPH and max RPM is 4500. Bike can cruise at 50 KMPH in 4K RPM. Engine is smooth in this range and gear box is slick and easy to shift. Since I have been riding a heel and toe shifter with all up pattern, still getting used to the toe shifter and 1 down 4 up pattern. But no big issues, thanks to the smooth gear box.

                          I have couple of questions to other owners

                          Bike needs a bit of throttle to start using push button or kick-start, even when its a warm start at any time of the day. Manual says you should start with throttle closed or a small amount of throttle. So not an issue, but in my experience with other two wheelers we dont need throttle open to start. whats your experience?

                          Yes i had that same experience with FZ as we need to throttle and press self at once to start the vehicle but my issue is in traffic while running if engine shuts down and need to start again thats where i feel it should be throttle free.

                          Idle RPM for the bike in cold or warm start condition is 1100-1200. But after riding for 10 mins or more and then idling its 1500-1700. I dont see a reason why it should increase with engine temperature and never see this with other two wheelers. Is it the same for you?
                          New vehicles tend to gain heat or loose heat instantly as the machine needs to adapt the climatic conditions and also the driving tuning i guess to settle the rpm raise and fall cos i had same issue before 1st service as my bike use to automatically raise its rpm to high when left ideal in running traffic so i got it fixed and now i m dealing with low rpm engine shut down issue while running due to des liquid cooling rains.

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                          Originally posted by chidafn View Post
                          Guys, I hope you are too busy with riding experience provided by RTR
                          Actually i had less experience on both the machines but as i own one 160 4v myself and optional borrowing of my friend's 200 4v i can say both the machines are mean and smooth at same time and we also do some drags sometimes and i win

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                          Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
                          Got my Racing Red Rear Drum version delivered on 13th Aug. So far bike did only 7 Kms from showroom to home and sitting in my garage because of non-stop rain You would have heard about the flood situation in Kerala.

                          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                          Guys wanted to share something useful I learned during the buying process. If you already have a 2 wheeler and getting no claim bonus (NCB) in your current insurance, you can take it with you to the new bike's insurance. Process is you need to apply for NCB certificate from your current insurance company and show it to the new one, check with the current insurer what documents they need to give you NCB certificate.
                          Otherwise you can decline the dealer insurance and insure the new bike with your current insurance to get NCB directly. I saved around 600 Rs by 50% NCB accumulated over last 5 years. And if I dont make any claims I can continue getting 50% NCB in coming years as well.
                          Yes bro NCB - Non Claim Bonus which is eligible for the insurance holders who never utilized the insurance will have the above mentioned privilege to apply this NCB which choosing for new insurance claim irrespective to the company. Thanks for the info bro

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                          Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
                          Hi guys, I am planning to upgrade from my honda unicorn 150cc. Many suggested me to go for 200cc bikes. But I am planning to stick to 150-160cc segment. I have shortlisted gixxer, hornet, fzs 150 fi and apache rtr 160 4v. I find it really hard to chose among these bikes. I have some queries regarding apache rtr 160 4v.
                          1. What is the mileage if ridden at 60 to 70 kmph and mostly in cities?

                          As i said, v can get around 35 - 40 kmpl

                          2. How much is the paid service cost?

                          General service is 330 in hyd service centre and addons like labour cost and gst will b additional

                          3. Does the mileage drop drastically as the engine clocks more kms unlike Hondas and yamahas?

                          Not sure whether there will b any drastic drop other than any machine failure in the bike or irregular servicing can lead to it

                          4. Is the engine reliable for long term? I am planning to keep for another 8 to 10 years.

                          We hav apache users who seem using bike for decade now so i think with the promising growth in the apache series, engines are made in keeping things in mind.

                          5.How is the maintenance? Is it easy or does it require constant care from the owner?

                          Other than general servicing i guess u need oil change, chain lubrication and disc plates clean up so it depends on ur attention as u hear anything abnormal from machine.

                          6.Is it comfortable for long rides(both rider and pillion)?

                          As a rider, i ride everyday for around 50 kms in hectic traffic and rider position is fine for me and comfortable and pillion yeah ladies may find it little stiff as feedback i got and pillions may feel back aches some times due to the stiffness coming from the mono suspension but strict no for tricky

                          7.Does engine heats up a lot?

                          Please post your answers.
                          Yes, it use to and also now but only when i hav to rev more in traffics to raise rpm for bit longer periods but after 1st service the felt the heating issue gradually resolved.
                          Last edited by RebellionRiderRTR; 08-20-2018, 03:52 PM.
                          Safe ride,
                          RebellionRiderRTR

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                          • #28
                            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                            Hi,

                            These days it feels like the downshifting from 5th to 2nd/1st gear are sometimes pretty tough task.

                            Anyone feel the same?

                            And my 1st service will be due for this weekend. Kindly let me know if I should be ready with anything and what all things they will change.
                            Getting the service done in Shusheel Motors -Kukatpally, Hyderabad.

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                            • #29
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by Lin View Post
                              Hi,

                              These days it feels like the downshifting from 5th to 2nd/1st gear are sometimes pretty tough task.

                              Anyone feel the same?

                              And my 1st service will be due for this weekend. Kindly let me know if I should be ready with anything and what all things they will change.
                              Getting the service done in Shusheel Motors -Kukatpally, Hyderabad.
                              Yes i may feel it harder when sudden braking but to change the gear we need the wheel in movement which makes hard to downshift from 5th to 2nd when the bike is in ideal state, like in traffic mostly.

                              Coming to 1st service, i had my first in susheel itself so mostly the 1st service will have oil change and general servicing. If u hav any issues with the bike lik heating, rpm setting or chain or so u can get them done. i had to pay 330 for oil and 400 for teflon coating in 1st service where teflon we get for 3 sittings which can be done under 1 year span.

                              Keep riding, be safe
                              Rebel
                              Safe ride,
                              RebellionRiderRTR

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                              • #30
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post

                                i had to pay 330 for oil and 400 for teflon coating in 1st service where teflon we get for 3 sittings which can be done under 1 year span.

                                Rebel
                                User manual recommends TVS TRU4 Fully Synthetic Oil, which is good for 6000 kms per maintenance schedule chart in manual. For 330 I guess they used normal mineral oil? Can you please confirm. Do we have to specifically ask to fill Synthetic oil because I though service centre will go by user manual
                                sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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