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  • #31
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
    User manual recommends TVS TRU4 Fully Synthetic Oil, which is good for 6000 kms per maintenance schedule chart in manual. For 330 I guess they used normal mineral oil? Can you please confirm. Do we have to specifically ask to fill Synthetic oil because I though service centre will go by user manual
    Actual i was not present at the time of service so my friend who took it for service told it was TVS once. Thats all the info i had.
    Safe ride,
    RebellionRiderRTR

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    • #32
      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

      Thank you gentlemen for you valuable response.

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      • #33
        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

        Guys, identified one small issue in my bike. Probably one off case and should not impact others, but better you check and confirm. Front brake disc is rubbing against something in the brake assembly when wheel is rotating even without applying brake. Not the whole rotation but about 1/4th of the rotation i can hear the rubbing sound. It is very feeble and cannot be heard when riding. I found it when I was checking if wheels are rotating freely on center stand. After a 10 mins ride the front disc is too hot to touch.

        Could it be because the brake pad tolerance is too little as pads are new? But again why the rubbing happens only 1/4th of the rotation, could be a bend disc? Is it normal to have slight bends in disc or should I replace it under warranty? Bike done 300 kms so far.
        sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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        • #34
          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
          Could it be because the brake pad tolerance is too little as pads are new? But again why the rubbing happens only 1/4th of the rotation, could be a bend disc? Is it normal to have slight bends in disc or should I replace it under warranty? Bike done 300 kms so far.
          Drag the front and ride for a bit, if the brake lever seems to pulse then go in for a warranty replacement.
          Motorcycling Experience:
          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
          Adios Comrades!
          A.P. 2018

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          • #35
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            Drag the front and ride for a bit, if the brake lever seems to pulse then go in for a warranty replacement.
            Hey when I ride and apply front brake I feel the pulse on the lever and it is kindoff very less. But haven't checked by manually rotating the wheel.

            I have completed 500kms today and the service due symbol lit up, so this Saturday getting the first service done and will ask regarding this issue.

            My service is at Shusheel Motors, Hyderabad.

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            • #36
              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by Lin View Post
              Hey when I ride and apply front brake I feel the pulse on the lever and it is kindoff very less. But haven't checked by manually rotating the wheel.

              I have completed 500kms today and the service due symbol lit up, so this Saturday getting the first service done and will ask regarding this issue.

              My service is at Shusheel Motors, Hyderabad.
              Hi All,

              My 1st service was done last Saturday. Alot has happened in first service 😄😅.

              There wasn't much/new probs I had to tell the mechanic regarding the 18 days old bike covered 508 kms. I told him about of engine heating and low mileage.

              For which he has done a small test ride and told that my bikes acceptation is high (1.5k is what it is always after 2 or 3kms ride) that is why engine is heating. Ok!

              Mileage - when I told 35 his face was like, he can't even believe that this bike would give this less. Then he questions my mileage testing method 😁 I asked him to take it easy and start with the servicing.

              Guys now the real thing starts!!
              They billed me 720rs in total for engine oil (tru4 10w 30) and oil filter. But I saw the mechanic using the 1ltr engine oil, instead 1.2 ltrs Can. I asked him and he seems to be confused to what to say and said some Bulshit story which I didn't buy. Then I called Sr.mechanic, he then drained the entire oil into the same Can and opened a fresh 1.2ltr* sealed Can and poured before me.

              I was stunned to find these kindoff things happening at the first service itself. Oil is important and if that itself is ignored it will surely take a toll on the long run.

              So always have a eye on what they are doing to your bike.

              Also some center would say I'll pour 1ltr and again top up 200ml into it. If there is a 1.2 ltr oil Can then better choose that rather 1 and then 200ml. Because 1ltr and 1.2 ltrs Can is kind off different interms of the sticker design🤣. You can google the difference. 1.2 has some 3ps protection something written on it otherwise both are of same grade.

              All they would do in first service is
              Change engine oil - customer has to pay.
              Change oil filter - customer has to pay.
              Water wash - Service complementary.
              Labour - Service complementary.

              Hope this helps someone.

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              • #37
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                [MENTION=99472]Lin[/MENTION] - Thanks much for posting the details! My first service is due in 2 days.

                Regarding the engine heating issue - my idle RPM during cold start is 1000 and after 10 mins of running it is 1500. So I dont think there is an issue with idle RPM setting in the carb. Its more of engine heating up after running for some time. I am not going to report this to service guys as they may fiddle with the idle RPM which I dont want. I will see how the heating is after changing Oil and filter, I am expecting it to get better as engine settles in after a few hundred Kms. In your case did they adjust anything for engine heating and low mileage?

                And are you sure about the availability of 1.2 Ltr can of engine oil? Cause I asked at the authorised spare parts store and they said nowadays they are not getting it from TVS. It will be good if they start coming again. But its scary the service guys dont know how much oil they need to put in the engine...really
                sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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                • #38
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
                  @Lin - Thanks much for posting the details! My first service is due in 2 days.

                  Regarding the engine heating issue - my idle RPM during cold start is 1000 and after 10 mins of running it is 1500. So I dont think there is an issue with idle RPM setting in the carb. Its more of engine heating up after running for some time. I am not going to report this to service guys as they may fiddle with the idle RPM which I dont want. I will see how the heating is after changing Oil and filter, I am expecting it to get better as engine settles in after a few hundred Kms. In your case did they adjust anything for engine heating and low mileage?

                  And are you sure about the availability of 1.2 Ltr can of engine oil? Cause I asked at the authorised spare parts store and they said nowadays they are not getting it from TVS. It will be good if they start coming again. But its scary the service guys dont know how much oil they need to put in the engine...really
                  Engine heating is not an issue on an air cooled motorcycle unless you're using inappropriate oils.

                  Idle can go all the way up to 2k without causing an issue, you are advised to set idle when cold just above the RPM where your auto-decompressor functions, which ideally should be around 1.1k on most motorcycles, Ignore idle RPM when the motorcycle is warm and don't bother adjusting it, if you bring it down to 1.5k when the motorcycle is super hot then next day you'll have a tough time getting it to idle on first start. You should only be worried if the idle wavers when hot, which is an indication of an air leak.

                  Don't put too much thought into oil's, just don't drop below the recommended operating temp range and all is well, so if yours is '30' as in 10W30, then you can go with 40, 50 or even 60 grades without any issues.
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • #39
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by Lin View Post
                    Hi All,

                    My 1st service was done last Saturday. Alot has happened in first service ������������.

                    There wasn't much/new probs I had to tell the mechanic regarding the 18 days old bike covered 508 kms. I told him about of engine heating and low mileage.

                    For which he has done a small test ride and told that my bikes acceptation is high (1.5k is what it is always after 2 or 3kms ride) that is why engine is heating. Ok!

                    Mileage - when I told 35 his face was like, he can't even believe that this bike would give this less. Then he questions my mileage testing method ������ I asked him to take it easy and start with the servicing.

                    Guys now the real thing starts!!
                    They billed me 720rs in total for engine oil (tru4 10w 30) and oil filter. But I saw the mechanic using the 1ltr engine oil, instead 1.2 ltrs Can. I asked him and he seems to be confused to what to say and said some Bulshit story which I didn't buy. Then I called Sr.mechanic, he then drained the entire oil into the same Can and opened a fresh 1.2ltr* sealed Can and poured before me.

                    I was stunned to find these kindoff things happening at the first service itself. Oil is important and if that itself is ignored it will surely take a toll on the long run.

                    So always have a eye on what they are doing to your bike.

                    Also some center would say I'll pour 1ltr and again top up 200ml into it. If there is a 1.2 ltr oil Can then better choose that rather 1 and then 200ml. Because 1ltr and 1.2 ltrs Can is kind off different interms of the sticker design������. You can google the difference. 1.2 has some 3ps protection something written on it otherwise both are of same grade.

                    All they would do in first service is
                    Change engine oil - customer has to pay.
                    Change oil filter - customer has to pay.
                    Water wash - Service complementary.
                    Labour - Service complementary.

                    Hope this helps someone.
                    @Lin, was it susheel motors, moosapet ??

                    Even though u better drop a complaint to TVS saying this incident is disturbing to get back for nxt service cos dis can happen to anyone and its not tolerable. Cheating customers will cost brand name as well so that disciplinary actions can be taken. And thanks for sharing ur experience bro its really helpful to us and others to know how things goin on in des service centers.
                    Safe ride,
                    RebellionRiderRTR

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                    • #40
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                      Xbhp basically should make a "Read this before you post" thread.

                      The bikes are brand new, they will heat! Please don't keep posting heating and mileage issues because these aren't even issues. Mileage is dependant on how you ride it!

                      And for everything else, refer the manual.

                      Don't post things which aren't issues because of which real problems of people are lost.

                      And use the google search if you feel anything is going wrong with your carbureted motorcycle.

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                      • #41
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by JS16 View Post
                        Xbhp basically should make a "Read this before you post" thread.

                        The bikes are brand new, they will heat! Please don't keep posting heating and mileage issues because these aren't even issues. Mileage is dependant on how you ride it!

                        And for everything else, refer the manual.

                        Don't post things which aren't issues because of which real problems of people are lost.

                        And use the google search if you feel anything is going wrong with your carbureted motorcycle.
                        Hey! You seem to be little vexed with reading feedbacks.

                        Brand new bikes heat! Yea they heat and we are telling you and all it is heating. May be after 2nd or 3rd service it might come down. If not I have to deal with it. And probably a collective discussion on this may help others in resolving this.

                        Mileage! Not an issue you say? Hell it is an issue for me. Again looking forward to get better figures in mileage after couple of services. You tell me, why will I got for 160 4v if it can't even give 40-45kmpl, I would have opted for 200 4v then for 35- 37kmpl. And please note I don't rev much nor I go above 55kmph (follows break-in period). So it is kindoff matter of concern for me.

                        Yea yea alot people are posting here and their issues are not attended.

                        If you don't mind, what issues you are personally going through.

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                        Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
                        [MENTION=99472]Lin[/MENTION] - Thanks much for posting the details! My first service is due in 2 days.

                        Regarding the engine heating issue - my idle RPM during cold start is 1000 and after 10 mins of running it is 1500. So I dont think there is an issue with idle RPM setting in the carb. Its more of engine heating up after running for some time. I am not going to report this to service guys as they may fiddle with the idle RPM which I dont want. I will see how the heating is after changing Oil and filter, I am expecting it to get better as engine settles in after a few hundred Kms. In your case did they adjust anything for engine heating and low mileage?

                        And are you sure about the availability of 1.2 Ltr can of engine oil? Cause I asked at the authorised spare parts store and they said nowadays they are not getting it from TVS. It will be good if they start coming again. But its scary the service guys dont know how much oil they need to put in the engine...really
                        Rakeshchn!

                        I think they have set the idle rpm which even I can do and mileage nothing. They won't do anything till we complete 3 services. Bcz they say after 3 services the bike would give atleast 50kmpl, if not then they will fiddle with the carb.

                        Yes, 1.2ltr is available. Check in Google also you will find it and in service centre it should be available.

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                        Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
                        @Lin, was it susheel motors, moosapet ??

                        Even though u better drop a complaint to TVS saying this incident is disturbing to get back for nxt service cos dis can happen to anyone and its not tolerable. Cheating customers will cost brand name as well so that disciplinary actions can be taken. And thanks for sharing ur experience bro its really helpful to us and others to know how things goin on in des service centers.
                        Yes I have already put a word to senior who they tell is from Chennai TVS plant and he was apologetic and said will look into it.

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                        • #42
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by Lin View Post
                          Hey! You seem to be little vexed with reading feedbacks.

                          Brand new bikes heat! Yea they heat and we are telling you and all it is heating. May be after 2nd or 3rd service it might come down. If not I have to deal with it. And probably a collective discussion on this may help others in resolving this.

                          Mileage! Not an issue you say? Hell it is an issue for me. Again looking forward to get better figures in mileage after couple of services. You tell me, why will I got for 160 4v if it can't even give 40-45kmpl, I would have opted for 200 4v then for 35- 37kmpl. And please note I don't rev much nor I go above 55kmph (follows break-in period). So it is kindoff matter of concern for me.

                          Yea yea alot people are posting here and their issues are not attended.

                          If you don't mind, what issues you are personally going through.

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                          Rakeshchn!

                          I think they have set the idle rpm which even I can do and mileage nothing. They won't do anything till we complete 3 services. Bcz they say after 3 services the bike would give atleast 50kmpl, if not then they will fiddle with the carb.

                          Yes, 1.2ltr is available. Check in Google also you will find it and in service centre it should be available.

                          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                          Yes I have already put a word to senior who they tell is from Chennai TVS plant and he was apologetic and said will look into it.
                          leaving issues aside u asked earlier about the comparision between 200 v and 160 v right so [MENTION=99472]Lin[/MENTION] now u tell us ur experience about this race machine
                          Safe ride,
                          RebellionRiderRTR

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                          • #43
                            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                            Originally posted by Lin View Post


                            Yes I have already put a word to senior who they tell is from Chennai TVS plant and he was apologetic and said will look into it.
                            In my many years of owning 2 wheeler's the mechanics are always lazy to check and measure how much oil the manufacture prescribes. They think they know it all. Had this problem with Dream Yuga which needed 0.9 ltr and they always pour the whole 1 ltr bottle. After I had the oil leaking from cylinder head gasket I always insist they remove 100 ml before emptying the bottle into the engine. Thank God Motul has 0.8 ltr bottle for scooter engine oil they can empty bottle to their hearts content whenever I replace oil in wife's Activa
                            sigpicOm Yamahaya Namaha...praise the lord!

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                            • #44
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by Lin View Post
                              Hey! You seem to be little vexed with reading feedbacks.

                              Brand new bikes heat! Yea they heat and we are telling you and all it is heating. May be after 2nd or 3rd service it might come down. If not I have to deal with it. And probably a collective discussion on this may help others in resolving this.

                              Mileage! Not an issue you say? Hell it is an issue for me. Again looking forward to get better figures in mileage after couple of services. You tell me, why will I got for 160 4v if it can't even give 40-45kmpl, I would have opted for 200 4v then for 35- 37kmpl. And please note I don't rev much nor I go above 55kmph (follows break-in period). So it is kindoff matter of concern for me.

                              Yea yea alot people are posting here and their issues are not attended.

                              If you don't mind, what issues you are personally going through.

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                              Rakeshchn!

                              I think they have set the idle rpm which even I can do and mileage nothing. They won't do anything till we complete 3 services. Bcz they say after 3 services the bike would give atleast 50kmpl, if not then they will fiddle with the carb.

                              Yes, 1.2ltr is available. Check in Google also you will find it and in service centre it should be available.

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                              Yes I have already put a word to senior who they tell is from Chennai TVS plant and he was apologetic and said will look into it.
                              How many kms u have completed so far?..

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                              • #45
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
                                leaving issues aside u asked earlier about the comparision between 200 v and 160 v right so [MENTION=99472]Lin[/MENTION] now u tell us ur experience about this race machine
                                It is pretty good! I liked my choice of going for TVS,
                                instead of Hornet, FZ or Gixxer. My previous bike was Pulsar 150cc (2010). This bike is smooth but has its peppy feel everytime throttle is opened. It has its own presence on road and has good number of people looking at the bike, probably bcz the bike is new . Brakingn and handling are also fine.

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                                Originally posted by tanishq View Post
                                How many kms u have completed so far?..
                                So far completed 580kms.

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