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**Garry_Menace** · 05-16-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by haxor View Post

Sue them if its troubling you so much.
File a case in Consumer court!

Unluckily, he can't.
He didn't get his bike serviced from TVS. Even got a TCI replaced by a local mechanic.

@pranav
I think all you can do is to try and convince them to do things under warranty if anything required to be changed. Anyways, I can't understand why your problem is taking so long to be getting solved. Did you go to the SVC and ask them to solve it before just shooting the mail? Or you're only relying in your mech?

**sujithbvm** · 05-16-2011, 06:05 PM

Hey some one had earlier replied in this thread about getting the Apache in Bangalore directly from the warehouse...

I am getting an Apache RTR 180

Can anyone tell from which showroom can I get to pick up the bike directly from the warehouse and what about the fitting of the accessories and all,...Will they b fitted in the warehouse itself or should I have to rake the bike from the warehouse to the dealer to fit the accessories ??

And what are the chances that the dealers will allow me picking the bike directly from the warehouse??

**pranav_salieri** · 05-16-2011, 11:12 PM

@garry and haxor-no i still have to go the SVC but this will be my last effort to set my bike right!

today in the afternoon after a 30 kms trip the engine was burning hot and i could hera the trrr trrr sound(most probably tappet sound) now i got my bike serviced just two weeks ago and checked a week ago.how can this start???

BTW are these symptoms of a faulty TCI unit(its puffed up) and a faulty spark plug???

**haxor** · 05-16-2011, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@garry and haxor-no i still have to go the SVC but this will be my last effort to set my bike right!

today in the afternoon after a 30 kms trip the engine was burning hot and i could hera the trrr trrr sound(most probably tappet sound) now i got my bike serviced just two weeks ago and checked a week ago.how can this start???

BTW are these symptoms of a faulty TCI unit(its puffed up) and a faulty spark plug???

Tappet noise is like kat-kat-kat kind of,me also having the same issue will fix it at the SVC after semester exams.
From what I see,your bike is running rich(colour is black)

**Garry_Menace** · 05-17-2011, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@garry and haxor-no i still have to go the SVC but this will be my last effort to set my bike right!

today in the afternoon after a 30 kms trip the engine was burning hot and i could hera the trrr trrr sound(most probably tappet sound) now i got my bike serviced just two weeks ago and checked a week ago.how can this start???

BTW are these symptoms of a faulty TCI unit(its puffed up) and a faulty spark plug???

Is the TCI replaced by your mech genuine TVS OEM?
And, when you mention anything about service , do mention that the service was done by local mechanic, not SVC. It will draw a clearer picture in front of the readers.

And, from the last pic, I don't think that your bike is running so rich that you would have problems because of it. IMO, tuning part ain't the culprit in your case.

**Maverickk** · 05-17-2011, 01:03 AM

Hey guys, got myself an Apache rtr 180 on 29th april.

Already done 900kms till now and in love with this amazing machine!I want to thank all the members on this thread for helping me out on making my decision to get one as its my first bike.

I want to ask is it true that when the bike is new the disc brakes makes some noise especially the rear one, as i have got first servicing done and still 'sometimes' i hear a "chi-chi" noise and am not sure where its coming from?i havent taken the bike above 50km/hr(except one time after first service and wanted to see the real potential..

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**Garry_Menace** · 05-17-2011, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by Maverickk View Post

Hey guys, got myself an Apache rtr 180 on 29th april.

Already done 900kms till now and in love with this amazing machine!I want to thank all the members on this thread for helping me out on making my decision to get one as its my first bike.

I want to ask is it true that when the bike is new the disc brakes makes some noise especially the rear one, as i have got first servicing done and still 'sometimes' i hear a "chi-chi" noise and am not sure where its coming from?i havent taken the bike above 50km/hr(except one time after first service and wanted to see the real potential..

).

Welcome to Tribe Apache

And, that squeeking sound you hear from the discs is just because of dirt. Nothing to be worried about. Actually the roto petal discs of RTR are quite prone to dirt/dust particles. The sound will vanish if you rubb the disc pads with sand paper.

**pranav_salieri** · 05-17-2011, 02:27 AM

@garry-yeah will keep that in mind.it looks to be genuine only(the tci unit).

if the bike is running rich will it effect performance??? my mech(local) said that the spark plug(shown in the picture) is faulty and replaced it.he showed me that the white part of the spark plug is rotating (it seems it should not rotate).is my spark pluf faulty??

**Maverickk** · 05-17-2011, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Welcome to Tribe Apache

And, that squeeking sound you hear from the discs is just because of dirt. Nothing to be worried about. Actually the roto petal discs of RTR are quite prone to dirt/dust particles. The sound will vanish if you rubb the disc pads with sand paper.

Thanx garry. I am a beginner to all this DIY stuff so will try it out sometime after exams. And yeah am an engineer too in the making although a petroleum engineer

(Remember the post where discussion was going on that everybody is an engineer nowadays).Also i want to confirm is it okay to keep the idle rpm set at 1k??does it have any effects on mileage or acceleration or top speed??
And when can i go for an oil change as in an upgrade from already existing tvs tru4??what are the best options for me??

**social** · 05-17-2011, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@garry-yeah will keep that in mind.it looks to be genuine only(the tci unit).

if the bike is running rich will it effect performance??? my mech(local) said that the spark plug(shown in the picture) is faulty and replaced it.he showed me that the white part of the spark plug is rotating (it seems it should not rotate).is my spark pluf faulty??

Yup nothing should be loose on the spark plug. If the white part is rotating then it is damaged.

I am not sure about how good the SVC is at your place, but if I were you then I would take my bike there and get the following checked (and replaced if necessary):

1. One way clutch
2. TCI unit

Just make sure you visit SVC on weekdays... they is usually less customers and give more attention. And make friends

**Drifty** · 05-17-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Maverickk View Post

Also i want to confirm is it okay to keep the idle rpm set at 1k??does it have any effects on mileage or acceleration or top speed??
And when can i go for an oil change as in an upgrade from already existing tvs tru4??what are the best options for me??

Set the idle rpm between 1300-1500rpm,setting it @1k rpm will lead to lesser life of engine!AFAIK,it wont affect mileage,acceleration or top speed,please correct me if I am wrong.
As for now,stick to mineral oils.Look for Shell,Elf Moto4 gold,Motul oils in W40 grade.

**pranav_salieri** · 05-17-2011, 02:18 PM

@drifty how does idling at 1k rpm effect the engine life??

**Maverickk** · 05-17-2011, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

Set the idle rpm between 1300-1500rpm,setting it @1k rpm will lead to lesser life of engine!AFAIK,it wont affect mileage,acceleration or top speed,please correct me if I am wrong.
As for now,stick to mineral oils.Look for Shell,Elf Moto4 gold,Motul oils in W40 grade.

Dude thanx for informing me regarding the rpm thing!

. I am gonna set the rpm to 1.3k the next time i'll take out my bike. I had no idea it will reduce engine life!
Do castrol have no mineral oil to offer which can be used?and after how many kms should one shift to semi or fully synthetic?i have doubts regarding the differences between them and their use.
And is it necessary to change the clutch freeplay from its factory settings 'cos after first service those svc guys din't touch the setting?

**Garry_Menace** · 05-17-2011, 02:38 PM

Never heard that 1K RPM could harm the engine even for the longer run. And, I doubt it would. Anyways, I am not sure

. The reason I would have suggested 1.2K-1.4K RPM is that it reduces the cold start problem.

Originally posted by Maverickk View Post

Dude thanx for informing me regarding the rpm thing!

. I am gonna set the rpm to 1.3k the next time i'll take out my bike. I had no idea it will reduce engine life!
Do castrol have no mineral oil to offer which can be used?and after how many kms should one shift to semi or fully synthetic?i have doubts regarding the differences between them and their use.

Castrol does, but because of huge number of duplicate products, its hard to find genuine castrol products in market. So, if you aren't a pro in that, avoid it. If you can find Motul, then its even better than castrol or the best I should say. Else you can use Shell etc. as already suggested by Drifty.

For switching to Semi-Synthetic, some people even switch to SS quite early like around 1.5K-2.5K kms., but its always recommended to use Mineral oil till 5K kms. and I would recommend you the same.

**n.krishna.p** · 05-17-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@garry and haxor-no i still have to go the SVC but this will be my last effort to set my bike right!

today in the afternoon after a 30 kms trip the engine was burning hot and i could hera the trrr trrr sound(most probably tappet sound) now i got my bike serviced just two weeks ago and checked a week ago.how can this start???

BTW are these symptoms of a faulty TCI unit(its puffed up) and a faulty spark plug???

As far as i recollect, the TCI unit of RTR comes in light grey covering, howz it that yours is green in color. Would you please provide the part number on the packing.

On the spark plug, its definitely running rich, check the tuning properly, the setting needs to made lean.

By the way which mechanic are you going. Not all road side mechanics would be able to adjust the setting on these bikes.

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@drifty how does idling at 1k rpm effect the engine life??

As per manual the idle rpm is 1400 + or - 100 rpm. So keeping it above 1K rpm is advisable. Not sure about the engine life, however, the engine keeps turning off if the idle rpm is too low.

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