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**Grafix** · 08-01-2009, 01:03 PM

Just Now Had A Test Drive of The 180 , Its Absolutely Superb. Its Almost ready to go till any speed , i had a chance to rev it till 7k on the 5th gear and its still going. Breaks Are awesome.Vibes almost gone (yes i did drive a 160).My hands were completely red but is that a prb??
Btw , my white will come in 5 days approx.... still waiting

**rennycornelius** · 08-01-2009, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

i've said it for a moment and stick to the company spec of 1400100 rpm. Btw, the 100 doesn't mean that you have a choice of setting it to either 1300 or 1500 rpm. what is means is that 100 in either direction from 1400 is the acceptable variation for normal operating conditions. for example, if you set it to 1400 last week and it's now running at 1310rpm, then you don't have re tune it. but if it falls to 1280rpm, then you should retune it to 1400rpm.

ok..
so stickin to the original 1500RPM it is.....

Originally posted by M3nac3_guy View Post

I guess they adjusted the carb settings for more mileage....and they do not follow company norms of setting the rpm at ~1400 rpm.....they have set my rpm to 1k exact........

after buyin you measured the turns in the carb?????

cuz this guys are too dumb to tune the machine properly...

my advise is go to the companys godown find a new 180 which is still in wrappers give a guy thr 100 ka GANDHIJI tell him to bring a screw driver and measure how many turns the carbs mixture screw has after being closed completely...
you'll get the setting of the co for 180.....

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

btw, is the company spec for idle rpm the same for the 180 as the 160s?

yes sir it's the same......

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

the service indicator works according to km covered, not days. the method to reset it is as chicane said. in my case it takes around 10 seconds. only prob is the buttons are pretty hard to press and harder so when you're pressing both of em. use one finger from each hand..

i tried my level best to do it and "mujhse to nahi hua tha"

to went to sc and he did it for me in 15 secs flat.....

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

so you're saying you watched them the whole time and the only thing they changed is the idle setting? since the tappets are only to be set when the engine is cold, plus being a ***** to set, these guys usually don't fiddle with them. then what else could cause the drop in perf? try changing the engine oil back to elf if you can bear the loss, and see if that restores it back. wierd shit.

you get my thumbs up for the bolds....

it surely happens thr...
to guarentee it that they did it reach the SC after 3 hours and stand in his head to see the "Head' of ur bike opened.....

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

p.s. @renny dude, you try the 180 yet?

finally i tried the 180 today....(i thought to log this in eve and you asked me the right time buddy....

)
i had my points in my mind how m gonna test it so i did my best to extract all the juice it's engine has....

to start with the eargasmic note of FI is missing but still it has more "deep" note as compared to the 160...

what i noticed was that the engine was very much flickable right from the 3000 RPM and was not in need of the revs like the FI do....

to make matters simple for me i took it alone for the ride for about 10kms..(the guy is my frnd who gives the test ride )

PERFORMANCE and overall...

1.Like the RTR it revved like a dream but was not as smooth as the FI "who" revs like god.

2.The engine was getting strong from 3500 RPM and the power come till 10700 after that the torque curve gave up and beyond that it was revving un neccecarily...the bike was pulling smoothly from 2500 in 4 without a snatch and yes man it VIBRATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same area 5600-7000 it gave me massage but it was almost as same as the FI bit it's "intensity" felt more...(julian!!!! i told you that our FI won in this vibes department!!!!!!!!!!!!

)

3.The gearbox was smooth but a bit notchy and my fav gears were 2,3 and 4...

4.I touched 136 on the straight fully croutched after about 500-800mtrs...,0-60 felt fast,tacho shoots up good but not the way FI throws the needle up

but FI makes more noice so it makes the whole thing look fast than it's actuall is...

5.it felt about "2%" more planted than the FI or the RTR 160, i never felt those MM's, the swingarm gained,workin hard for it.....

6.Handling was god,brakes same as the FI,scrapped the PEG, lots of positive feel,the rear 110 and little long swingarm helping in that part..may be..

7. The suspension setup felt stiffer sepecially the rear was not compressin' the way FI's does at the corner(2nd gear, long curve 8000-11000 RPM, as it's my fav left hander i took the 180 to the same route)
it was at the 3 setting,my FI runs on 4,still it felt much stiffer,the front is as same as the FI....

Overall a very nice bike with little more power on tap that gives it a better top END...

but on the twisties you need a hell lotta skills to beat FI, but yup on straights it has it's edge (by a little margin) cuz those 20cc's(17 to be precise

) and little more PS's(1.3) will give it more lungs for that top end, but to use the little extra power,all you need is a skill cuz biking is not all about opening the accelerator at the open road but feeling the chasis at the twisties,hearing the bike screaming for the next gear,braking,cornering and after getting back to the showroom i found that i did it all in MY FI and felt nothing new to it.....

"But i can bet you guys you may be able to show me the new “V” shaped mudguard on straights but you just can’t beat me in my FI on track or twisties even if you're driving the new white coloured RTR 180...."

**Grafix** · 08-01-2009, 11:50 PM

@renny : i totally disagree with u abt the viberation , i did drive a 160 RTR (NOT FI) and now the 180 , vibs almost gone(reved till 7k only)

Hey guys can u plz help me out , i did a test drive of the 180 , everything was fine except that my palms were paining and were RED in colour for 10-15mins after the ride.i think thrz something wrong with my seating position can anyone point out my flaw???

Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post

Does any one saw/got the yellow rtr 180 ?

only in the pics man , will get to see it in flesh later this week ,ill post the pics.

**julianpaul** · 08-01-2009, 11:51 PM

awesome review man, very informative and lotsa laffs too! cheers.

**abhijeet080808** · 08-02-2009, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

@renny : i totally disagree with u abt the viberation , i did drive a 160 RTR (NOT FI) and now the 180 , vibs almost gone(reved till 7k only)

I have taken a test ride too. The engine pulls from any rpm like you say. (I revved it from about 3k to 12k rpm in each gear except 5th.) But there are vibrations in the 6-7k range. A bit decreased compared to the 160, but it is there!

**Grafix** · 08-02-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

I have taken a test ride too. The engine pulls from any rpm like you say. (I revved it from about 3k to 12k rpm in each gear except 5th.) But there are vibrations in the 6-7k range. A bit decreased compared to the 160, but it is there!

maybe i missed them coz i was too excited on getting the test drive alone.
but im sure they r much better than compared to the 160

Hey guys can u plz help me out , i did a test drive of the 180 , everything was fine except that my palms were paining and were RED in colour for 10-15mins after the ride.i think thrz something wrong with my seating position can anyone point out my flaw???

can anyone help ????

**rennycornelius** · 08-02-2009, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

@renny : i totally disagree with u abt the viberation , i did drive a 160 RTR (NOT FI) and now the 180 , vibs almost gone(reved till 7k only)

get into 2 gear rev it to 5700-7000 RPM (both the bikes are smooth from 7000RPM) be in that region for good 5-6 mins and you'll know what vibes are....
try the same region of RPM in FI and you'll know what i was talkin about...

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

awesome review man, very informative and lotsa laffs too! cheers.

thanks...
buddy drive it....(that too in white colour

)
i beg you

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

I have taken a test ride too. The engine pulls from any rpm like you say. (I revved it from about 3k to 12k rpm in each gear except 5th.) But there are vibrations in the 6-7k range. A bit decreased compared to the 160, but it is there!

no doubt the FI irons out the vibes in RTR....
remember it's ultra short stroke engine and like the detailed explaination julian gave (RTR160/FI thread) it'll vibrate...

(i love the vibes man!!!!! but it kills me after 20 kms of hammering the machine hard)

**rennycornelius** · 08-02-2009, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

can anyone help ????

you sat little on the rear side that put a lot of weight on ur wrist and that made ur palms red and it showed cuz may be you're too fair.....

**Grafix** · 08-02-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

you sat little on the rear side that put a lot of weight on ur wrist and that made ur palms red and it showed cuz may be you're too fair.....

Thankq , i wud check my seating position next time i get to ride.

Still waiting for my White 180 to arrive here

**abhijeet080808** · 08-02-2009, 11:41 AM

^^ I think you got too excited during the ride!

**Grafix** · 08-02-2009, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

^^ I think you got too excited during the ride!

YES , as soon as i heard the exhaust note , the adrenaline rush started.
it was helluva test drive and i waited for more than a month to get a test drive , im still waiting for White colour to arrive so that i can decide the colour after seeing all the colours

**MR ACE** · 08-02-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

YES , as soon as i heard the exhaust note , the adrenaline rush started.
it was helluva test drive and i waited for more than a month to get a test drive , im still waiting for White colour to arrive so that i can decide the colour after seeing all the colours

I heard that the yellow colour has arrived @ showrooms do check it out &
Are you saying the rtr 180 exhaust note is better than 160 fi ?

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

only in the pics man , will get to see it in flesh later this week ,ill post the pics.

No props dude i'll be going this week to check the yellow rtr 180.

**Grafix** · 08-02-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post

I heard that the yellow colour has arrived @ showrooms do check it out &
Are you saying the rtr 180 exhaust note is better than 160 fi ?

I never heard the note of the FI but after hearing the 160 note the 180 does sound like a True Beast.It makes everyone turn their head just bcoz of the exhaust note(quite a few ppl turnd their heads to see when i was revvin in neutral at the signal).

**MR ACE** · 08-02-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

I never heard the note of the FI

Try it for once you will love it

**Grafix** · 08-02-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post

Try it for once you will love it

ill be going to the showroom on monday or tuesday , will surely here both exhausts again and ill get back to u guys

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