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  • Hi guys, I happened to take a test drive of the rtr 180 today for a prospecting cousin and.....what to say, it felt like a 'knowing the man behind the myth' kind of experience.

    Revved so nicely all the way taht I took it upto around 70 kmph in 2nd gear itself and the engine still sounded like it was up for more. Nice! Didnt feel sluggish at any speed(that I could manage within city limits). And the handling was very good for all that power......Id say second only to GS150R (this one really handles miraculously). I got the impression that the a180 faithfully carries the spirit of the 160...just more badass. Badass fun too!

    Put off was that I felt vibes all over, all the time.....right from around 3k rpm on handle, footpegs, seat, grabrail.....Id say its worse than the 160 though Ive never pushed it like I did the 180. I also felt that the paint and stickering could have been improved qualitywise over the 160, not just the engine.

    Overall, 2 thumbs up just for the fun of riding it! And, all of joel's work on RTRs is icing on the cake. Tempting enough to buy one for myself. Alas, my mothridden pockets and my ekapatnivrata. I kind of envy you guys for it now.
    Last edited by 2strokerama; 05-14-2011, 12:07 AM. Reason: ive-ing

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    • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
      Hi guys, I happened to take a test drive of the rtr 180 today for a prospective cousin and.....what to say, it felt like a 'knowing the man behind the myth' kind of experience.

      Revved so nicely all the way taht I took it upto around 70 kmph in 2nd gear itself and the engine still sounded like it was up for more. Nice! Didnt feel sluggish at any speed(that I could manage within city limits). And the handling was very good for all that power......Id say second only to GS150R (this one really handles miraculously). I got the impression that the a180 faithfully carries the spirit of the 160...just more badass. Badass fun too!

      Put off was that I felt vibes all over, all the time.....right from around 3k rpm on handle, footpegs, seat, grabrail.....Id say its worse than the 160 though Ive never pushed it like I did the 180. I also felt that the paint and stickering could have been improved qualitywise over the 160, not just the engine.

      Overall, 2 thumbs up just for the fun of riding it! And, all of joel's work on RTRs is icing on the cake. Tempting enough to buy one for myself. Alas, my mothridden pockets and my ekapatnivrata. I kind of envy you guys for it now.
      Loved that you loved it

      Anyways, I want you to put the same in the "Budget around 1L" waala thread

      And, that much vibes could be due to the fact that you were riding the TD vehicle or some new vehicle... the vibes are there I happily accept, but not that much
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      • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
        Hi guys, I happened to take a test drive of the rtr 180 today for a prospective cousin and.....what to say, it felt like a 'knowing the man behind the myth' kind of experience.

        Revved so nicely all the way taht I took it upto around 70 kmph in 2nd gear itself and the engine still sounded like it was up for more. Nice! Didnt feel sluggish at any speed(that I could manage within city limits). And the handling was very good for all that power......Id say second only to GS150R (this one really handles miraculously). I got the impression that the a180 faithfully carries the spirit of the 160...just more badass. Badass fun too!

        Put off was that I felt vibes all over, all the time.....right from around 3k rpm on handle, footpegs, seat, grabrail.....Id say its worse than the 160 though Ive never pushed it like I did the 180. I also felt that the paint and stickering could have been improved qualitywise over the 160, not just the engine.

        Overall, 2 thumbs up just for the fun of riding it! And, all of joel's work on RTRs is icing on the cake. Tempting enough to buy one for myself. Alas, my mothridden pockets and my ekapatnivrata. I kind of envy you guys for it now.
        A180 next to GS150????
        Is the GS150 so good?

        and yea,the test bike which u used must have been ripped to the core, my a180 (2010) has very few vibes compared to some of my friends pulsars... infact those vibes are so low they wont bother you once you fully concentrate on the road
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        • @social and garry- guys my local trusted mech found out that a faulty spark plug was the culprit.he changed it and gave me the faulty spark plug. now if the spark rotate(the white part) does it mean that its faulty??

          but still he hasnt been able to figure out the RPM needle problem! for now the bike seems okay.if it again happens then TVS ppl are gonna get a piece of my mind!

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          • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
            Hi guys, I happened to take a test drive of the rtr 180 today for a prospective cousin and.....what to say, it felt like a 'knowing the man behind the myth' kind of experience.

            Revved so nicely all the way taht I took it upto around 70 kmph in 2nd gear itself and the engine still sounded like it was up for more. Nice! Didnt feel sluggish at any speed(that I could manage within city limits). And the handling was very good for all that power......Id say second only to GS150R (this one really handles miraculously). I got the impression that the a180 faithfully carries the spirit of the 160...just more badass. Badass fun too!

            Put off was that I felt vibes all over, all the time.....right from around 3k rpm on handle, footpegs, seat, grabrail.....Id say its worse than the 160 though Ive never pushed it like I did the 180. I also felt that the paint and stickering could have been improved qualitywise over the 160, not just the engine.

            Overall, 2 thumbs up just for the fun of riding it! And, all of joel's work on RTRs is icing on the cake. Tempting enough to buy one for myself. Alas, my mothridden pockets and my ekapatnivrata. I kind of envy you guys for it now.
            Give Hyper Edge a test ride , you will fell almost no vibes !i dont beleive gs150 handles good, i will agree with fz but gs150 need to think
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            • Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
              Loved that you loved it

              Anyways, I want you to put the same in the "Budget around 1L" waala thread
              Sure I'll advertise a bike that I dont own and am just acquainted with if you do the same for the GS. +That guy wants a cbr...no point in selling a kulfi to someone that wants samosa though both are just as good in their own ways.

              Originally posted by saipranav View Post
              A180 next to GS150????
              Is the GS150 so good?
              Originally posted by kantu View Post
              i dont beleive gs150 handles good, i will agree with fz but gs150 need to think
              I believe so.....in the span of my limited trial on a a180 compared to the countless hours Ive had on my GS, I reached that conclusion.
              Only way to properly tell is to put the bikes against each other. Perhaps it also depends on the rider and how used he is to the ride. Anyway, for me.....my pitbull is #1.

              As for the FZ, I think it handles well but is nowhere close to the GS or RTRs. Frankly, in comparison, it handles like a pig.

              Regarding vibrations....I guess you guys know better. If the vibrations are corrected with the new models, then Id say its total VFM. Worthy of a blind purchase.

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              • Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                @social and garry- guys my local trusted mech found out that a faulty spark plug was the culprit.he changed it and gave me the faulty spark plug. now if the spark rotate(the white part) does it mean that its faulty??

                but still he hasnt been able to figure out the RPM needle problem! for now the bike seems okay.if it again happens then TVS ppl are gonna get a piece of my mind!
                Well, I don't know such problem in spark plug till now. Anyways, get a new spark plug and tell the mech that you'll only pay for the plug if the bike gets back to normal


                Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                Sure I'll advertise a bike that I dont own and am just acquainted with if you do the same for the GS. +That guy wants a cbr...no point in selling a kulfi to someone that wants samosa though both are just as good in their own ways.





                I believe so.....in the span of my limited trial on a a180 compared to the countless hours Ive had on my GS, I reached that conclusion.
                Only way to properly tell is to put the bikes against each other. Perhaps it also depends on the rider and how used he is to the ride
                . Anyway, for me.....my pitbull is #1.

                As for the FZ, I think it handles well but is nowhere close to the GS or RTRs. Frankly, in comparison, it handles like a pig.

                Regarding vibrations....I guess you guys know better. If the vibrations are corrected with the new models, then Id say its total VFM. Worthy of a blind purchase.
                Advertise?
                Well, do you mean that all of us who suggest bikes to people, even the ones we don't even own, do that for the sake of advertisement?
                Does it gives us free petrol in return?

                Think before you post. Its maybe your funda but not everyone's. The point for what I asked you to do that is to put the transparent and unbiased viewpoint in front of needy people.

                Well thats a news to me
                Not because I own an RTR or I don't own a GS150, but nowhere on the whole website I read that GS is that much flickable, nimble and all.
                It maybe the case with you because you have a habit of riding a GS and not RTR, so you are bound to get such feel or anything. No offense to any GS owner but there's no Indian bike in this segment which can come even close to RTR and R15(its the best IMO) in terms of handling, not even an FZ, let alone GS


                P.S. Not intented to start a fanboyism war here, just my own opinion and understanding what I am able to get from here and my little experience.
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                • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                  And the handling was very good for all that power......Id say second only to GS150R (this one really handles miraculously)
                  You are in the wrong thread buddy.Please post the above quote in the GS150R ownership thread,people there would be more happy to know about this!

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                  • Sorry for the OT guys.
                    Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                    As for the FZ, I think it handles well but is nowhere close to the GS or RTRs. Frankly, in comparison, it handles like a pig.
                    Good Lord.
                    You have no idea what you just said mate.
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                    • Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                      Advertise?
                      Well, do you mean that all of us who suggest bikes to people, even the ones we don't even own, do that for the sake of advertisement?
                      Does it gives us free petrol in return?

                      Think before you post. Its maybe your funda but not everyone's. The point for what I asked you to do that is to put the transparent and unbiased viewpoint in front of needy people.


                      Man, I posted my experience to express what i personally felt.....its not necessarily the same way for everyone.

                      Besides, what credibility does the experience of a first timer carry to a guy thats looking for a long termer? Any merits of unbiasedness or transparency in my comment would be quashed by my inadequate experience in riding the machine. The prospector himself can experience the same that I did, perhaps better on a test drive, right? But a word from a genuine owner gives a lot more impact. And not every owner, such as yourself, is biased towards his machine, is he? So, why did you misunderstand me and make me post all this Mr. Garry? I dislike misunderstandings....lets not have any, shall we?


                      Well thats a news to me
                      Not because I own an RTR or I don't own a GS150, but nowhere on the whole website I read that GS is that much flickable, nimble and all.
                      It maybe the case with you because you have a habit of riding a GS and not RTR, so you are bound to get such feel or anything. No offense to any GS owner but there's no Indian bike in this segment which can come even close to RTR and R15(its the best IMO) in terms of handling, not even an FZ, let alone GS


                      Well, I intended it more as an opinion than a newsflash. Cmon man, let me have my opinions.


                      P.S. Not intented to start a fanboyism war here, just my own opinion and understanding what I am able to get from here and my little experience.

                      Likewise Mr.Garry, likewise.
                      Reply in bold.

                      Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                      You are in the wrong thread buddy.
                      Am I? Thanks for the heads up buddy. Do read the whole post buddy....ever heard of friendly banter buddy?

                      Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                      Sorry for the OT guys.

                      Good Lord.
                      You have no idea what you just said mate.
                      I believe I do. I stated my personal opinion and not an absolute statement to start a war over. My uncle loves his silver plus over my bike and manages to ride it like the devil even though its a little more than an awkward little junkyard-ready hunk of 25 year old metal, rubber and leather in my eyes and hands.

                      Lets end this here.
                      Last edited by 2strokerama; 05-14-2011, 03:38 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                        Man, I posted my experience to express what i personally felt.....its not necessarily the same way for everyone.

                        Besides, what credibility does the experience of a first timer carry to a guy thats looking for a long termer? Any merits of unbiasedness or transparency in my comment would be quashed by my inadequate experience in riding the machine. The prospector himself can experience the same that I did, perhaps better on a test drive, right?

                        But a word from a genuine owner gives a lot more impact. And not every owner, such as yourself, is biased towards his machine, is he? So, why did you misunderstand me and make me post all this Mr. Garry? I dislike misunderstandings....lets not have any, shall we?


                        Well, I intended it more as an opinion than a newsflash. Cmon man, let me have my opinions.
                        Don't use this method of answering. Its boils the mind of the person answering to your post as one can't quote it. So, refrain from doing so in future. Hope you implement this in future ATLEAST for answering me.

                        Boy, now read your statement again and tell me if this is the way you feel then why did you even commented on the bike you never rode? I never say that one shouldn't do that. Its you whose saying that it doesn't carry any credibility


                        I don't think I misunderstood you. Your post clearly said the word ADVERTISE, and anybody who tries to put genuine suggestions would get hurt by such stupid words. So did I.




                        @RanjithMN

                        Rofl
                        Last edited by Garry_Menace; 05-14-2011, 05:17 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                          Lets end this here.
                          There is a lot i would like to say/explain but we are at the wrong thread.So yeah Lets end it.Maybe another day!
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                          • And I thought it was only me who felt that the GS150 owners were a emotional lot. I feel they have different thought process regarding their bikes capabilities and shortcomings compared to others.

                            PS - No offense meant, just putting down what I felt.
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                            • @2strokerama and garry- i dont think mr 2stroke is here to create any brandwars wars or put down the RTR180 in anyway! i think he is entitled to his opinion and he exrpessed it here!

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                              • Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                                Don't use this method of answering. Its boils the mind of the person answering to your post as one can't quote it. So, refrain from doing so in future. Hope you implement this in future ATLEAST for answering me.

                                Boy, now read your statement again and tell me if this is the way you feel then why did you even commented on the bike you never rode? I never say that one shouldn't do that. Its you whose saying that it doesn't carry any credibility


                                I don't think I misunderstood you. Your post clearly said the word ADVERTISE, and anybody who tries to put genuine suggestions would get hurt by such stupid words. So did I.

                                Dont get pissed off. I came here to complement on the bike and looks like Im fending off attacks from all sides.


                                Boss, I never said I didnt ride a 160. Moreover, for the context of that particular reply, hearsay is credible enough.

                                My mistake. I better be careful how and where I choose my words. Advertise also refers to the act of drawing attention to something without material profit involved in it. I suppose that puts some bandage on your hurt.


                                Anyway, in general, whatever I have to say on the 180 is not worth it in the scope of the direction that particular thread has taken. Hope that clears things up.


                                @ abhijeet080808: What do you mean by that?

                                @ pranav_salieri: thumbs up. Thanks for coming to my rescue.

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