How many kms from Kollam to Calcutta

Try to get Veedol 4T plus or Motul 3000 20W40. While I don't have any idea about how much veedol costs but I know that Motul costs Rs.200 per bottle(900ml). You can get it for Rs.185-190/- as you will be purchasing more than one bottle.
I have seen Sibun praising veedol a lot so, try to find veedol if possible.
My hunt for veedol super swift was useless as nobody here prefers oil priced higher than castrol. They will instead get castrol as according to them castrol is no.1 oil. So nobody stocks it here,those who had stock also have returned it to their distributor. Lack of awareness among the people is to be blamed as all go by the words of their trusted mechanic who gets commission/reward on selling castrol oil.

Finally I had to trouble Sibun to send me oil from Bubhaneshwar. Sorry for the trouble and Thanks once again my dear friend.

I am using Veedol Take off 4T Plus (API SM & JASO MA2), have drove 350 kms, and its a best oil i've ever used. Better than Gulf. Haven't used Motul yet but i think it will surely outperform it.
It cost me Rs.250 for 1 lt. MRP.274

I've heard JASO MA2 released after 2006 for those bikes that comes with cat-con.
So does using MA or MA1 in cat-con bikes damages cat-con??
Does MA2 can be use on without cat-con bikes?

Also have u ever noticed JASO MA1 or MA2 oils perform better than only MA oil??

In this MA2 oil my bike is running crazily. Acceleration is lot improved than Hero oil. After 40 kph its pulling like turbo charge

Fantastic Deal Pinaki Ji . Today seen those Hero oil but with veedol make , haven't asked the price as i was looking for Shell AX7 10W40 which is not available there .


That's the difference between student life ( money going ) & person with job life ( money coming )


Pinaki Ji i think max life for oil is around 5 years if stored neately with recommanded condition , related document is posted by psr ji in ZMR ownership thread , need to find it .

Less than the drain interval of one bottle only .


Veedol is a brandname of TideWater oils only , was available at the same place where I got this , they are Tidewater oil distributor (not dealer) . I'll check it out for deals , he's my buddy . Tidewater's HQ is here in kolkata . But unfortunately motul 3000 4T 20w40 is not less than Rs 230.00 anywhere in any quantity here because of the steep demand ... and supply is also become thin . Crates of the 15w50 grade motul 3000 is just vanishing off the shelves in hours because of the new bullets , it's their factory oil and they need 3 lits for a change .
@paul - never mind the JASO MA rating of the oil , MA MA2 is all the same for our motors , no problem in cat-con with either . Just any JASO MA rating should be present ... baas . But API SL rated oils may not be the best for our motors . SL contains very less ZDDP than the SJ grade that was recomended by HeroHonda . Our motor is a very old design , so oils rated SJ or earlier (SG) would be better for it I feel .
Also mind that the actual JASO MA certification symbol(badge) and number appears on the label . Some oils says things like "... Exceeds API SM and JASO MA2 performance levels ...." etc etc without actually having send it for JASO testing . They won't have that badge and number on the labels .

Yes , that is manufacturer suggested shelf life (2-5 years) . However motor oil doesn't go bad just like that , it has been proven to keep very well for many times that . Ofcourse , stored in sealed bottles indoors and given no opportunity to freeze during that time . Remember that crude oil has already survived many million years soaked up in rocks under the earth . We have just pumped it out and refined(separated) it into various components for use . The additive package is what is more likely to sediment out , not the oil .
Personaly I can only say that I have used oils more than 10years old that worked flawlessly and was clear when poured . Only while you pour it watch out that it has not formed any solid sediments ... chalega .

Want to do side business ?
Can you send me 5 bottles in-case I ever need it (via India post-Expess mail.It costs Rs.160 for 6kg) ? I can transfer the money to your account using NEFT.

Indian postal service doesn't carry liquids as a rule , lest the package leaks and spoils a lot of their other mail .

The shelf Life of an engine oil is maximum of 5 Years...after this time the additives and other ingredients separate and form a GEL like sediment at the bottom...Even this 5 years time is based on the assumption that the oil Remain in the original Container, with no air leak, and is stored away from Sun Light,and in a place which does not have more than 15 C temperature difference...
If the oil is subjected to greater temperature change, and is exposed to air/oxygen, then life comes down drastically...
here are links for further reading. Please take time to read the the contents of the second link from CAR BIBLE as it is very informative on oil in general.
It looks like more of the older engines will have to switch to Diesel oils without friction modifiers for the sake of ZDDP

.Ask Mobil 1 Archive - Shelf Life


Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible

Psr'Jee , I found one BP Vanellus 15w40 multigrade diesel oil ( British Petroleum-Castrol ) there at a good bargain . Can you say if it can be used on our bikes safely , as I want to depend on your judgement on this since you have already done the hard work and testing . I want to try a 15w40 diesel rated oil for this summer instead of 20w40 .

I didn't tested different rated oil but all i know, the later the grade is better. In my owner's manual recommended grade is SC,SF & SG, that time only these grades were coming. These SJ,SL,SM released later in the market and have crossed more refining stage. So i feel no problem in using those.Yes its true, those oil are never been tested, nor JASO test it. They are just send to market for customers to test it.Here is one piece of information you may likehttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...tml#post723250

Chalega BTW even other bike manufacturer knows when it comes to splendor & other similar engine then its chalega . Courtesy : their add

psr ji thank you for the links once again , really informative .

DO NOT USE the BP Vanellus 15w40 oil...it contains Arsenic,Benzene,and lead....It is highly carcinogenic ..



The Shell Rimula R3X and R 4 are superior to this oil.

As for as i can tell Shell Rimula does not contain Friction modifiers, contain good amount of ZDDP, and it is relatively non-toxic. The Rimula R 4 is superior to Rimula R3X, and both are good for Splendor or ZMA engine.....So far I have not faced any problem at 800 kms with Rimula R3X, and my next change will be Rimula R4....
But beware , like all experiments, there is risk of problems....so using it is risky....

API SL oils can be used on flat tappet engines but yes they contain very low amount of zddp, which can cause valve train related wear earlier. But these oil are ok. What not to use are SM & SN oil, these contain extremely low amount of zddp, can cause valve train wear in just few 100 kilometers. So, better rating can mean much pure oil but it may not protect.

:O Motul oils are API SL. I had used their Mineral/SS/FS oils for a total of 20k kms and Yamalube Mineral for 3k kms which is also API SL. You giving me heart ache.

you deleted my other statement. 'Its ok'. SL oils got enough zddp to protect flat tappet cams for normal users. (don't abuse bike & 2k or sooner oil change interval) But still don't think it will last lakhs of kilometers (just guess) saying all these coz API states SL oils contain around 800ppm of zddp whereas studies show min of 1200ppm is needed. Now enough of bad news.. Msds of many oils still states 'less than 1.1% zddp' which is 1100ppm. Another fact is modern 10w30 oil tend to contain lesser zddp than xxW40.