Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

To confuse you further - remember that the source of all power ( including electrical ) is the engine . So as you put more windings on the coil or use different gauge wire or use stronger magnets to increase electricity output , the engine shall be robbed of that bit of power . i.e more load on the engine and perhaps more fuel consumption too . And if the alternator is so modified to generate more electrical power , this load is put on the engine at all times - whether you are using your headlamp or not .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

man you and your barn find.

the sleek was launched with Cd 100 SS after the Cd 100 deluxe. It was not successful as its styling was too ahead of its time.

The rear shock is same as passion and you will be surprised to hear that Passion is actually styled keeping the sleek in its mind.The sitting position and the rear suspension is same.

For your curiosity :-


Unfortunately in splendor series bikes it is not easy as you said.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Can we stretch it further to say, load still exists whether battery being charged or not(I mean during day time)?

Where can we find the allowed(recommended) charging/discharging rates for longer battery life?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Yes , the alternator load is on at all times , even in the day when the lights are off . Splendor's have a ceramic resistance under the seat near the rear to dump the current while not in use . i.e when the light's switch in the left handle is in the off position . The battery is however being charged at all times whenever the RR output voltage is more that the battery voltage .

For battery , remember that different battery type has different charging and other requirements . For example flooded lead-acid ( our older ordinary type ) and smf type etc have different charging voltage and rates . Read this for starters - http://www.iotaengineering.com/pplib..._Batteries.pdf

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

It is not as simple as you think.
The current generated by the stator is the primary limiting factor here. Additional load on engine, reduced reliability are all secondary.
You can plonk in as many bulbs you want but there should be enough current to light them up.
There is only so much you can do with a three pole coil. Re-winding hardly makes any difference because they are already wound to the limit.

Many pages back I tried everything to re-wind the coil and posted my finding too.

However, you can reduce the accessory load so that the headlight can glow with full brightness.
Just by removing the ceramic coating on the tip of the bulb can increase the light output significantly at the cost of increased glare to the oncoming traffic which not right per se .
Converting the rear brake light to 5W cree led saves almost 15watts DC power, 1W led tail light saves 4 Watt Ac. Similarly pilot and meter lights can be converted to LED.

P.S- Avoid using multiple smileys in your post.


The other possibility is that the mechanic forgot to tighten the bolt after draining the oil.


I completely agree with you.
Sometimes enjoying the ride matters more than the destination itself. As someone rightly said "It's About the Journey, not the Destination".

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

:P I love that 97 c honda engine and I want to find ecah and every type of bike that had that engine:P:P:P:P:P:P ride it and put up a report
Hmmmm battery issues on splendour.
One question
Cut wires near ignition and join to battery and add a relay and a switch, get smd leds or bull leds and put in small projector lamps and fit it on the leg guards......leds will take lesser power, they will be on dc hence no flickering. Day time riding will charge the battery and at night you can runn and discharge it, also most of the battery will get charged even during night rides,..so no discharging issues.....What say? Or i should shutup because I am making up noobish ideas?:P imo it wont cost much either,,.. relay and switch 50rs and leds and projectors at 500 max, wires wil be cheap too, maybe a little welding or drilling to the leg guards...
divyansh....

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Can u kindly tell us what kind of battery problems in splendor?
Why cut the wires near ignition to join it to battery?? It aleady had such terminal connected to it. And cutting the wire is very easy, it took a second. But how would you switch back to its original condition when you don't want one?
I don't understand why a relay is required to power the leds. Not most of the battries charge at night time infact every battery in evey vehicle charge everytime as long as engine is running, be it day or night it doesn't matter. All it matters the load/power which u have put on battery should be less than your stator power producing ability. If stator able to take up a load then obviously there would be no discharging problem.

A little bit "welding " & drilling in leg guard . Soldering would require in some part I can understand but never heard of welding is required to do this DIY, that too for installing led's!!

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Cut the wires near ignition so that the ligts cannot be switched on eithout the keys inserted. I once made a direct line from the battery with a switch for 2 fog lamps and they did not need keys to power up. I had pesky kids swith themnon anytime and cause battery drainage.

To switch back to original condition just use shrinkable wire seal (4 rs I guess) and a soldier iron to heat and shrink it and voila... good as new, and a little snipping of the wire if done properly will not harm the wiring harness so much that you need to replace it and it will not be original. Unless your in warranty periodl

Thats what I said that battery charges during day night all the time.

Welding and drilling on the leg guards is to install the projector led set up you just made....... where ever you put the fog lamps you made or bought you will have to make holes or weld itnon its place. Imo leg guard is the best place

How else will you fix it there? Tape?:banghead:

divyansh....

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

And sir for the relay...
I had installed very powerful skoda horns without relays and the horn swwitch heated up and got deformed after some angry long horn honking at a stupid driver....the stock switchgear can sometimes not handle excess current
What a relay does is it basically acts as a switch for a switch, for opening and closing a circuit. So that your switch switches on the relay that intern swithes on the lights/ horns/ whatever else you want ,since its a cheap and effective fix,


Ps:- sir if I am sounding rude anywhere I sincerely apologise
I am only tryingto share my experiences sir. Please dont mind.

divyansh....

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

No need to cut wire. There is input from battery and also output. And output only comes when we turn on the key and so the netural light glows. There is a attached clip, so just simply connect a wire to that clip without cutting it and you are done. Add a switch in the middle. And if u want direct power from battery and also you want the connected equipment to not to work without turning on the key. Then take a output from that ignition wire connect to a relay coil with switch and pass the direct power from battery to your equipment thru relay. Thats it! voila your equip will not work until and unless you turn on the key. When you turn on & switch on, your relay will get power, which in turn, will turn on the equipment that would be running directly from battery.

Yes this is possible but original is original. The quality of original clips and fitting is the best. Aftermarket clips and bad in quality and even if you solder it and cover the back with sleeve still its not as good as original. Aleast not for me.

Not tape nor weld. You can also fix by making O shape clamp and bolting it. Ready mades are not available. Can be made using one long plate and need drilling to make a hole to bolt the light equipment and a piece of rubber to put it inside while fixing it. Welding will blacken guard.

No need to apologies, infact I should do from my side.
Yes this community is for sharing, learning & helping others.

Re: My overhauling experience!!

Hi sibun pinaki and paul ,

please share me the details of all the 3 rings end cleareance when it is placed inside the bore , And the possitions where dowel pins are located .. few days back i opened my dads passion engine got confused with dowel pins and O rings . some how managed to assemble it back . kindly help me pls


Suresh

Hello Suresh'jee , welcome to the forum .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

O jee please tussi ei wadda post nu edit karo....
I mean please edit and remove that giant post it is a little difficult to read.
Also when sibun sir, pinaki sir and paul sir are here you have nothing to fear!

Also welcome to the thread.. the above are a few of the experts here,
And I am the little menacing kid that creates a ruckus.....
divyansh....

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

I see. So, my vibrations are due to shorter gearing? Are there any modifications to get a taller gearing? By the way, i am quite comfortable with my bike. Does changing the sprockets with other bikes sprockets affect the bike?

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Yes sir. Temperature is rising here day by day. It is close to 40 degrees celsius, and we can expect upto 48 degrees. I vividly remember about your accident in the splendor earlier in this thread. That was a good presence of mind you had sir.

Stay safe in the road, friends. there are a lot of idiots out there!

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Bigger sprokets in the back will make your bike accelerate faster , rev faster but top soeed will be less and it will vibrate more, milage will go down in highway useage ang go up in city(good for city)
Smaller rear sproket will make the bike rev lesser at higher speed and vibrate less and it will accelerate slower, milage will be higher in highways and lower in city (good for highways and touring)
If your comfortable then don't change it!

divyansh....