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  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Friends, i would like to know something. In the electric start of my passion pro, if we press the button start, what actually happens? All i know is, the starter motor rotates and it tends to rotate the fly wheel, followed by the 4 strokes and the spark. Kindly correct me if i am wrong. I read in this thread earlier that there is also responsibility for the excitor coil for the starting of the bike. What job does the excitor coil perform?

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    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by windride View Post
      Today i got my Spledor's rear brake shoes changed at the near by service center. It was squealing badly. As per my records, it lasted 8200 kms (approx).


      The invoice state these were changed:


      DAMPER RR WHEEL
      SHOE COMP.BRAKE


      Experts, please clarify the following points:
      1. Is 8000 kms the life of rear brake shoes for a Splendor under normal usage conditions?
      2. Every time brake shoes need change, does the damper also need to be changed?
      3. Is there any other non-OE brand brakes i can buy which will give better brake life?


      Thanks much in advance!
      1 . Yes its acceptable in city conditions , but could have been more

      2. Nope not needed , the rubber damps vibrations of rear sprocket and kinda fixes rear sprocket to wheel if it wears , rear sprocket will have play.

      3. ask , anl are preferred brands, asbestos ones have better bite but are carcinogenic.
      Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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        Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
        1 . Yes its acceptable in city conditions , but could have been more

        2. Nope not needed , the rubber damps vibrations of rear sprocket and kinda fixes rear sprocket to wheel if it wears , rear sprocket will have play.

        3. ask , anl are preferred brands, asbestos ones have better bite but are carcinogenic.
        Excitor coil's function is to STEPUP voltage from 12 V to hundreds of volt required at plug

        If it stops working you will have poor or no spark at plug as it can no longer step up voltage from battery
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        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          Originally posted by sibun View Post
          There are two model of CD 100 and splendor carb.One is pollution model or Y2k model and other is pre y2k model.The pre y2k model CD 100 had 42 size slow jet and 82 size main jet and needle was also different being thinner. Can't recall the size.The pre y2k model splendor had also 42 size slow jet but 102 main jet and the needle was slightly thicket than cd 100.The y2k model CD 100 had 38 size slow jet and 98 size main jet with thicker needle than older model.The y2k model splendor had 38 size slow jet and 105 size main jet with c00H size needle jet.Also the pollution model has bigger carb than pre y2k model.All the models are available and you just need to say the bike and pre or after y2k and they will give the carb. If any other information then contact me.
          I'm bit confused on models. Pollution model/Y2K model means the post 2000 models with less pollution?

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          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            Originally posted by SatSon View Post
            I'm bit confused on models. Pollution model/Y2K model means the post 2000 models with less pollution?
            @ Sibun:

            Could you Pl. brief us the Pros/Cons of each of the carbs w.r.t Performance v/s Fuel Efficiency.

            Are these Carbs interchangeable for one another.

            Regards,
            Sri

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            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              Originally posted by sureshhicet View Post
              Hi sibun pinaki and paul ,

              please share me the details of all the 3 rings end cleareance when it is placed inside the bore , And the possitions where dowel pins are located .. few days back i opened my dads passion engine got confused with dowel pins and O rings . some how managed to assemble it back . kindly help me pls


              Suresh
              Welcome to the forum Suresh.
              There are only two compression rings that should have 0.2 mm of cleareance. Not more than 0.5 mm max.
              Third one is oil ring, no need to check clearence of that.
              For dowl pins, there are 4 dowel pins used between block & head. Two pins are placed between block and chamber, if u look from the front then one dowel placed in top right stud and second just opposite of that in bottom left stud. Followed by same position for remaining two dowel pins in between head & block.
              In addition to this there is one collor used in between head & block. The collor holds the head oil o-ring in the bottom right stud. The engine oil passess thru that stud when oil pump push it. It went to head and then flows back from the bigger hole/passage in the bottom (you must have seen that). That collor is very important to be there, if not installed or incorrectly installed then engine oil will get into cumbustion and bike will smoke.

              There are few more dowels used in other areas of engine that not worth including it as its not pertinent towards your qwery.

              Originally posted by jeswin View Post
              Friends, i would like to know something. In the electric start of my passion pro, if we press the button start, what actually happens? All i know is, the starter motor rotates and it tends to rotate the fly wheel, followed by the 4 strokes and the spark. Kindly correct me if i am wrong. I read in this thread earlier that there is also responsibility for the excitor coil for the starting of the bike. What job does the excitor coil perform?
              Your bike doesn't have excitor coil. The bikes which have AC cdi are powered by excitor coil in stator which produce upto 55 volts. Therefore these bike runs without battery as the source of energy is from excitor. If excitor fails bike will not start. CDI then hold that power into its capacitors which then released to ignition coil after it receives signal from pulsar coil, the pulsar coil send signal when piston is at compression stroke. The power then released to the ignition coil which converts that upto 15000 volts and then yelds spark in the spark plug.

              Your bike have DC CDI which powered by battery, therefore bike doesn't start after removing battery. It doesn't had excitor coil which leads to more space in stator and more poles which in turn given better lighting at lower rpm.

              Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
              Let me start with the easiest lighting mods.
              Lighting Mod #1

              According to some safety regulations, a kind of ceramic layer must be coated on the tip of the bulb to reduce the glare.
              By removing this coating, a slight improvement can be noticed without causing too much of glare for the oncoming traffic.

              More mods- COMING SOON.
              "More mods coming soon" when it will come soon man? Its been two months ago I'm waiting for it!!

              Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
              @ All
              Lots of updates are pending from my side, shall update soon.
              Again when??
              Man previously u stated that, feeling of posting has gone from the day I've stopped being active, but now if i am back after listening your words.
              I feel like u have now stopped being active.
              Hope u hear from you soon, the updates!!!
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              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                [MENTION=53807]paul.1911[/MENTION]- Good explanation to the queries [MENTION=43108]shoeb2015[/MENTION]- Where are you. Have called me a lot regarding his splendor problem and now his problem have been solved. But no updates and all from you. Man update something so that other members can know a lot from you.Carburettors:-As i had posted the jet and needle sizes difference in previous post now i am posting the difference in both the carb. The pre y2k models had smaller venturi size. The venturi size used were 16 mm as used in pleasure, activa and all.The post y2k model had bigger venturi size. The venturi size is 18 mm.Due to changes in length of silencer and introduction in more baffles precisely four extra in the silencer the carb was changed. For making the breathing easier 18 mm venturi was used and the jet sizes were changed. Since the power an torque increased bikes were made more tall geared. Across the spectrum two teeths in rear sprocket was dropped in all models from their pre y2k models.And for swapping, no you cannot swap the pre y2k models carb with post y2k or vice versa.
                Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  Originally posted by sibun View Post
                  [MENTION=53807]paul.1911[/MENTION]- Good explanation to the queries [MENTION=43108]shoeb2015[/MENTION]- Where are you. Have called me a lot regarding his splendor problem and now his problem have been solved. But no updates and all from you. Man update something so that other members can know a lot from you.Carburettors:-As i had posted the jet and needle sizes difference in previous post now i am posting the difference in both the carb. The pre y2k models had smaller venturi size. The venturi size used were 16 mm as used in pleasure, activa and all.The post y2k model had bigger venturi size. The venturi size is 18 mm.Due to changes in length of silencer and introduction in more baffles precisely four extra in the silencer the carb was changed. For making the breathing easier 18 mm venturi was used and the jet sizes were changed. Since the power an torque increased bikes were made more tall geared. Across the spectrum two teeths in rear sprocket was dropped in all models from their pre y2k models.And for swapping, no you cannot swap the pre y2k models carb with post y2k or vice versa.
                  Hmm.... Then i should try to find a 19 or 20 mm carburetor. We are trying to milk a bit more power from the small engine as the owner is not very happy with the overtaking ability of the bike.

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                  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                    Hmm.... Then i should try to find a 19 or 20 mm carburetor. We are trying to milk a bit more power from the small engine as the owner is not very happy with the overtaking ability of the bike.Sent from my GT-I9001 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                    Which bike are you working on.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      Which bike are you working on.
                      Its a 2004 splendor plus.

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                      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        For the last 2 days, when i type xbhp.com, the website was blocked and also forbidden. I dialled a lot of times and the result was the same. I was totally pissed off, because in the xbhp history, i read that somewhere around in 2005, the forum's server got failed and all the data was lost. Phew.!! just now i am relieved. I thought i would miss you people permanently. Good heavens, the website is working fine now and i am not going to miss any one of you

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                          Originally posted by jeswin View Post
                          For the last 2 days, when i type xbhp.com, the website was blocked and also forbidden. I dialled a lot of times and the result was the same. I was totally pissed off, because in the xbhp history, i read that somewhere around in 2005, the forum's server got failed and all the data was lost. Phew.!! just now i am relieved. I thought i would miss you people permanently. Good heavens, the website is working fine now and i am not going to miss any one of you
                          Amen to that my friend!
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                          Hell im not this scared wn my gf doesnt call back!!
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                          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                            Hi ,

                            Even i own a passion pro 2009 model , The carb is a TPS model , the Cdi gets its power from battery and the Regulator rectifier , few days back My battery went down completely . I removed the battery , eventhough i was able to start the bike through kick , the only noticeable change was performance drop .

                            Suresh

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                            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                              Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
                              Your bike doesn't have excitor coil. The bikes which have AC cdi are powered by excitor coil in stator which produce upto 55 volts. Therefore these bike runs without battery as the source of energy is from excitor. If excitor fails bike will not start. CDI then hold that power into its capacitors which then released to ignition coil after it receives signal from pulsar coil, the pulsar coil send signal when piston is at compression stroke. The power then released to the ignition coil which converts that upto 15000 volts and then yelds spark in the spark plug.

                              Your bike have DC CDI which powered by battery, therefore bike doesn't start after removing battery. It doesn't had excitor coil which leads to more space in stator and more poles which in turn given better lighting at lower rpm.!
                              Thank you sir. Now i understand. CDI (capacitor discharge ignition) enhances the spark plug to produce spark. Right? My bike has DC powered CDI. So, thats the reason why i have better headlights at lower rpm. Was that you were saying sir? I am surprised that the ignition coil produces 15000 volts!! More doubts yet to come dear friends. My questions may be silly and simple to you people but it values to me a lot.

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                              Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                              Amen to that my friend!
                              I swer I haven't been this scared not hearing from someone ever!
                              Hell im not this scared wn my gf doesnt call back!!
                              Xbhp ko kuch hua na..... kaccha chaba jaenge!!!
                              xbhp BBB [Biggest brotherhood of bikers]




                              divyansh....
                              Ha ha, yes yes. Since we all love our bikes, and also have almost the same attitude, it would be very sad if the website goes off!! Divided by distance, united by XBHP. What say??!!

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                              Originally posted by sureshhicet View Post
                              Hi ,

                              Even i own a passion pro 2009 model , The carb is a TPS model , the Cdi gets its power from battery and the Regulator rectifier , few days back My battery went down completely . I removed the battery , eventhough i was able to start the bike through kick , the only noticeable change was performance drop .

                              Suresh
                              Ah, another one passion pro owner. Welcome to the forum sir. What is the current odometer reading of your bike?

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                              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                                Originally posted by jeswin View Post
                                Thank you sir. Now i understand. CDI (capacitor discharge ignition) enhances the spark plug to produce spark. Right? My bike has DC powered CDI. So, thats the reason why i have better headlights at lower rpm. Was that you were saying sir? I am surprised that the ignition coil produces 15000 volts!! More doubts yet to come dear friends. My questions may be silly and simple to you people but it values to me a lot.
                                Don't think like that. No question is a silly question. Ask whatever you want. No one is born intelligent, we've also went thru the same. I have also asked many ques when I was newbie.
                                We understand what every question means to you and for everyone.

                                This website had previously gone thru two shutdowns before..
                                That happens when they do maintenance/upgrade over time.
                                Our reaction was also same when it shuts last time on its 10th anniversary. We weren't able to post anything. But started again and that was a upgrade, they changed the whole view of the website.
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