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  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    [MENTION=61630]jeswin[/MENTION]- Spark plug sometimes gets short and particularly when you repeatedly crank the engine and it doesn't start. This causes the engine to be flooded with fuel and as a result the plug gets shorted. This is true especially in case of NGK plugs as they are very susceptible to too much fuel or engine oil in the combustion chamber.
    The plug that you got is also a good plug but try to get Champion or NGK as they perform better in hero bikes.

    Next time when your engine doesn't start just open the spark plug and crank two three times and then re-fit plug, bike will start without any problems.
    [MENTION=29030]Pinaki[/MENTION]- Those donkeys at service center ask them anything and they will reply the original was japanese, so and so. Man, for them anything that is good is japanese and if they couldn't solve anything first blame goes on the quality of spares and the japanese funda comes into play, that is there bramhastra.

    The OE oil is 10W grade and Escorts supplies those. If you want get the Escort oil and fill 150 ml in each forks. The shocks will perform like OE.


    @ All- As i had said the work was completed to satisfaction and also my painter did a very good job. But while fitting a slight scratch has removed the paint. Will get that corrected from the painter next sunday. Will post the details after the paint is corrected of scratches and all

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    This was the condition of oil when last changed with Shell Advance Ultra. The oil drained was Motul 3000 4T 20W 40.

    The crank is making noise but my mechanic is saying to not open engine as bike is having very high compression and also torque is very good. Pulling wheelie is very easy and even any body who hasn't ridden the bike from many days and suddenly rides, the bike surely pulls the front wheel up.

    Also Top speed has reduced as bike is struggling to go past 90 kph, as this can be attributed to the crank as at high speed most of the power is wasted by the crank at its big end bearing.

    Mechanic is waiting for the engine to leak oil into combustion chamber, but the damn bore is not allowing to wear it down. Man bikes having good engine wear their bore in 30-40k and this bike with a worn crank is running without any thing happening to bore.

    Utterly boring as my hand is itching to open the engine as soon as possible to re-build it to company specs.

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    Last post forgot to post here:-

    Another feature on our bike with small engine:-http://dilipbam.com/bikes/290-record...endor-pro.html
    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

      There is no exact figure for the life of the spark plug . Hero suggests replacement every 12000 kms of use . But that is a general direction and it usually lasts much longer from my experience . However it can also fail or as in your case short-out earlier too - just bad luck . You new plug is alright and it was about time to replace the old one anyway .
      May be my spark plug has a manufacturing defect or something. I shall clean the plug in every service. Since my bike is coming closer to 12 thousand kms, should i change the air filter? or should i clean and use the old one again? Suggestions please

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      Originally posted by sibun View Post
      @jeswin- Spark plug sometimes gets short and particularly when you repeatedly crank the engine and it doesn't start. This causes the engine to be flooded with fuel and as a result the plug gets shorted. This is true especially in case of NGK plugs as they are very susceptible to too much fuel or engine oil in the combustion chamber.
      The plug that you got is also a good plug but try to get Champion or NGK as they perform better in hero bikes.

      Next time when your engine doesn't start just open the spark plug and crank two three times and then re-fit plug, bike will start without any problems.
      You are absolutely correct sir. I smelled petrol when continuously cranking. So, thats the reason behind it. If i face the same problem again, will definitely follow the method suggested by you. As i was in a hurry, i got only that Bosch mico plug. Will get a Champion and keep it as a spare. Price of the Champion plug, please??

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      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

        Why do you need to crank the engine continuously ? This engine needs only half-hearted kick or two to get going - even in cold mornings and it never needed choke on mine either . If yours isn't starting up as easy , then that is the problem you need to rectify firstly now . IC engine needs only 3 things to run - Fuel-air mixture , compression and ignition . Start checking from the ignition .
        No need to change the air-filter elements if it isn't torn or become weak etc . How did you clean+oil it upto now ?
        Last edited by Pinaki; 03-18-2014, 02:13 AM.

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        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          What Pinaki sir said, why so much hassle in starting a bike. 3~4 kicks with ignition off and on the next kick with ignition on the bike fires to life, keep the throttle open for a few secs and let it idle for a while, then ride on. If by chance you manage to flood the engine, then try starting the bike with the throttle at WOT. This is mentioned in the CRF230 manual, if am not mistaken.
          Motorcycling Experience:
          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
          Adios Comrades!
          A.P. 2018

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          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            What Pinaki sir said, why so much hassle in starting a bike. 3~4 kicks with ignition off and on the next kick with ignition on the bike fires to life, keep the throttle open for a few secs and let it idle for a while, then ride on. If by chance you manage to flood the engine, then try starting the bike with the throttle at WOT. This is mentioned in the CRF230 manual, if am not mistaken.
            Same is suggested in Hunk's manual too.
            Is it because WOT will allow more air to flow in aiding burning of excess fuel?

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            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              Hello everyone !I have been reading this thread and others for the past year like it belonged in my syllabus! Im a 21 year old engineering student from kolkata and currently own a 2003 pulsar 150 a.k.a. the pulsar classic. Never rebored or engine overhauled and it has done about 68k kms and the meter went kaput after that. Bike is in almost prestine condition. I need new tyres though and I have 18 in spokes in the front and back. The rims are fine minor superficial rust thats all. Sourcing a sticky 2.75 / 18 tyre for the front is easy enough but sourcing a rear 110/18 tyre is an issue. 17 inh rims have far greater options available. Now, Is it possible to just change the spokes and the rim to a 17 inch one and retain my hub? Waiting for a lot of replies.
              Ps:- this is my most loved thread in the entire xbhp database and if it is ok with everyone I would like to be a regular participating member here
              Regards,
              Divyansh.

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              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                Hello everyone !I have been reading this thread and others for the past year like it belonged in my syllabus! Im a 21 year old engineering student from kolkata and currently own a 2003 pulsar 150 a.k.a. the pulsar classic. Never rebored or engine overhauled and it has done about 68k kms and the meter went kaput after that. Bike is in almost prestine condition. I need new tyres though and I have 18 in spokes in the front and back. The rims are fine minor superficial rust thats all. Sourcing a sticky 2.75 / 18 tyre for the front is easy enough but sourcing a rear 110/18 tyre is an issue. 17 inh rims have far greater options available. Now, Is it possible to just change the spokes and the rim to a 17 inch one and retain my hub? Waiting for a lot of replies.
                Ps:- this is my most loved thread in the entire xbhp database and if it is ok with everyone I would like to be a regular participating member here
                Regards,
                Divyansh.
                Now why would you want a 110/18. Stick to the 100/18 or 3.0-18 - and you will find a lot of options in these sizes.

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                • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  [QUOTE=s1d;1050153]Now why would you want a 110/18. Stick to the 100/18 or 3.0-18 - and you will find a lot of options in these sizes.[/QUOTEHello,
                  The only soft compound rounded profile tyre I could find in the 18 inches was the michelin m45. Unfortunately it is unavailable.
                  My pulsars swingarm is that of the old model that is extremely short. It has much better handling then the preset pulsars and no 3/18 or 100/18 tyres do justice to the chassis balance etc. Hence I wanted a stickier soft compound tyre present in the 17 inches category. 110/17 is the max tyre size I can go for without cutting the chain guard or any modifications.
                  Now the rim and spoke option is possible by retaining a hub thank you pinaki sir. Now can anyone tell me which bike has 17 inch spokes?

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                  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Did anyone say 18inch sticky tires



                    Dunlop Mystery 2.75-18 alongside Dunlop Monster Trail 110/90-18
                    Motorcycling Experience:
                    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                    Adios Comrades!
                    A.P. 2018

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                    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      Finally! 110/18 how mch did they cost? Currently im running 2.75 mrf zappers in the front (bald but still grip thanks to me sanding the surface:P) and horrible dunlop monster 3/18s in the rear that lock up worse then tvs!
                      I was thinking of ceat securas 18 inches in the front 2.75 and for the rear I though I will change the rim and spokes to 17 inches and use the r15s rear tyre or a mrf revs.
                      Edit:- If I do put the r15s or mrf revs or even a michelin I will need a tube because all are tubeless and I dont know which tube might fit a 110/70/17 or 110/80/17

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                      Last edited by Divyanshp150; 03-22-2014, 06:56 PM.

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                      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        OT :
                        Please check out the tyres thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...805-tyres.html to get opinion from experts.

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                        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                          Thank you shoeb bhaiya for guidance.
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                          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                            Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                            Finally! 110/18 how mch did they cost? Currently im running 2.75 mrf zappers in the front (bald but still grip thanks to me sanding the surface:P) and horrible dunlop monster 3/18s in the rear that lock up worse then tvs!
                            I was thinking of ceat securas 18 inches in the front 2.75 and for the rear I though I will change the rim and spokes to 17 inches and use the r15s rear tyre or a mrf revs.
                            Edit:- If I do put the r15s or mrf revs or even a michelin I will need a tube because all are tubeless and I dont know which tube might fit a 110/70/17 or 110/80/17

                            Sent from my GT-P3100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                            The price is within 2k for each, dont know exact figures, the Monster Trail was 1.9k when I purchased it. Its not recommended to keep using the tires ones you've reached minimum thread depth.

                            I trust Dunlop more in comparison to Ceat, but then I've heard that Ceats last longer than Dunlops.
                            If you're changing to 17' spokes then you can go for tubeless but you have to take some extra care, for more details you can post in the Tires thread. But in case of Alloys then its not much of an issue.
                            Motorcycling Experience:
                            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                            Adios Comrades!
                            A.P. 2018

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                            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                              How can I use tubeless in spokes? Wont the air leak out off the spoke holes? I hav chosen the r15 v1 rear tyre as my rear (110/70/17) will have to purchase a tube and for the front ceat sucura zoom 2.75/90/18 tube type
                              Will purchase the tyres by wednesday and will post pictures thank you everyone.
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                              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                                Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                                Why do you need to crank the engine continuously ? This engine needs only half-hearted kick or two to get going - even in cold mornings and it never needed choke on mine either . If yours isn't starting up as easy , then that is the problem you need to rectify firstly now . IC engine needs only 3 things to run - Fuel-air mixture , compression and ignition . Start checking from the ignition .
                                No need to change the air-filter elements if it isn't torn or become weak etc . How did you clean+oil it upto now ?
                                Sir, i thought that the bike would start if it is continuously kicked. Thats why i did it for a long time. Thank you so much for correcting me. So, when the bike shows starting trouble, i shall analyze the problem instead of kicking it continuously. The spark plug was the trouble maker.
                                Regarding air filter, the mechanic use to clean it. In the forthcoming service, i will watch him doing the air filter cleaning and inform you. The manual says to replace the air filter for once in 10 thousand kms. Thats why i asked you. If the air filter is good, i need not change it. Right?

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