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  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    [QUOTE=jeswin;1063865]So you people are also enjoying that sound.. Can you please tell me what bike you own? Whether 'escorts' is the company name of the shock absorber?

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    brother Divyan, Kindly dont call me sir. To which bike are you going to replace? CD 100 or pulsar? I can help you with the very little knowledge i have.

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    Yes, i am fine. I got only a swollen elbow and a swollen ankle. It will be cured in 2 or 3 days. Thank you for your concern. The wheel does not have any bents. No mis-alignments. I put the bike on main stand and rotated the front wheel. It was fine. No bend or oil leaks in forks. I was afraid if my handbar got mis-aligned. I rode in a straight road and took off the hands. The bike went straight. So i think there is no problem till now. I shall let you know if there is any problem. Regarding headlight, i rode the bike in a very dark highway yesterday night. The illumination was as usual before. So, no problem with the beam. I am planning to replace the visor and keep the broken one in stock. What is your opinion?

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    First try to fix the visor with 5 rs feviquick and borrow a soldering iron from somewhere, if the result is satisfactory to hou enjoy or else you have wasted 5rs and some time and uselessly borroed a soldering iron



    divyansh....

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    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by jeswin View Post
      So you people are also enjoying that sound.. Can you please tell me what bike you own? Whether 'escorts' is the company name of the shock absorber?

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      brother Divyan, Kindly dont call me sir. To which bike are you going to replace? CD 100 or pulsar? I can help you with the very little knowledge i have.

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      Yes, i am fine. I got only a swollen elbow and a swollen ankle. It will be cured in 2 or 3 days. Thank you for your concern. The wheel does not have any bents. No mis-alignments. I put the bike on main stand and rotated the front wheel. It was fine. No bend or oil leaks in forks. I was afraid if my handbar got mis-aligned. I rode in a straight road and took off the hands. The bike went straight. So i think there is no problem till now. I shall let you know if there is any problem. Regarding headlight, i rode the bike in a very dark highway yesterday night. The illumination was as usual before. So, no problem with the beam. I am planning to replace the visor and keep the broken one in stock. What is your opinion?

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      I dont have any tools now sir. So the mechanic did it for me. He did the same method that you have mentioned. I have to buy all the tools. Will start them buying from next month

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      I checked it. No problems to my knowledge. If the handbar is bent even about 2 to 3mm, we can feel the pain in our shoulders. Am i right?
      Good to know buddy that you are fine,our roads are filled with rally and F1 drivers so pls be more carefull, i have yamaha rx-100, yes the company name is escorts they even make suspension for Indian Railways, you are absolutely right if the hanble is bent you will feel pain in your shoulder if it's that much bent.

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      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

        Originally posted by jeswin View Post

        I dont have any tools now sir. So the mechanic did it for me. He did the same method that you have mentioned. I have to buy all the tools. Will start them buying from next month
        As sibun says "Sir" seems very formal , i am well underage than you are, i started from scratch and from so helpful people here i keep learning and updating my knowledge.Tools given in tool kit are bare basic and not of very good quality , get a TAPARIA screwdriver , a 10/11 ring , 12/13 ring , 16/17 ring ,8mm T spanner , 10mm spanner, 4,5mm allen keys

        All well under 500-600/- which will serve whole life

        I have above mentioned tools with addition of some more , but still nowhere near expert members
        Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          Friends is there any problem in removing air filter intake hose?. I tried in my gladiator and got an increase in mileage. sound also changed and engine revs smoothly

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          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            Air filter intake , which one exactly ? ... hopefully it's not the one between the air-filter and carburettor ?

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            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              Originally posted by harish_gkumar View Post
              Friends is there any problem in removing air filter intake hose?. I tried in my gladiator and got an increase in mileage. sound also changed and engine revs smoothly
              1) If its from the air filter box to the carb you are killing your engine(since unfiltered air is getin ito the carb also the afr is going haywire)
              2) If its from the carb to the engine you are killing your engine faster(same reason as above)
              3) If its to the box from under the seat(snorkel) you killing your engine slowly (afr is going haywire and probably lean)
              Dont mess with it, the company does a lot of calculations to achive the air intake capacity, knns and such modifications kill your bike.
              Engine seems smother since it is lean, also the cause of good milage, overheating will be caused, and engine life will shorten. To prove its lean go to 2nd ear at 20kmph and suddnly twist the acfeltor hard your bike will miss beats maybe even stall.
              If you want better sound from the filter, remove the air filter snorkel but beware, your afr will go lean, a lot of carb adjustment or even rejetting will be required (a lot of trail and error) you will then achieve a near perfect afr and then it will be fine plus the good sound and increased acceleration but with increased intake you will burn more fuel too. So milage will drop (if its done correctly, any other way and you are doing something erroneous! ) also you will have to clean and oil your airfilter more often, and beware during washes and rains you have chances of letting water in your airfilter box screwing everything up.
              I have done it and acieved good results, but I will advice you against it, im speaking with experience, unless you are willing to waste a few hours and be very carefull and spend some money for tuning and rejetting of carb (if you can't diy) and short air filter cleaning intervals....DONT DO IT!
              Friendly advice bro, please dont misunderstand me
              Experts can say if I am right or wrong.



              divyansh....

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              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                [MENTION=61630]jeswin[/MENTION]
                My puksar classic same lenght of original shocks as cd dawn...! Now they have sagged so low my bike looks like a low rider
                Will be buying a set of cd dawn adjustable shocks:P
                Pulsar nitrox are too long for the short swing arm of the classic pulsar.
                My bike is slowly getting a lot of hero splendour I.e. 97 gem parts!
                They are such good quality I cant help but use them!
                My front shock tube nuts have rusted shut in the shocks they are the depressed huge square allen key types...I dont know what you call them.
                Cant findbthe right sized nuts anywhere! Bajaj changed the design and size after this, will source new forks etc with space for my disc brakes.
                Also need steal braided brake fluid hose, hf dawn headlamps, new speedo console (hf dawn!/ caliber since I just need the odo and speedometer with neutral light), I wanted to try the passion paper air filter but dont want to work hard with my afr again...
                My pulsar is becoming splensar


                divyansh....

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                • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                  @jeswin
                  My puksar classic same lenght of original shocks as cd dawn...! Now they have sagged so low my bike looks like a low rider
                  Will be buying a set of cd dawn adjustable shocks:P
                  Pulsar nitrox are too long for the short swing arm of the classic pulsar.
                  My bike is slowly getting a lot of hero splendour I.e. 97 gem parts!
                  They are such good quality I cant help but use them!
                  My front shock tube nuts have rusted shut in the shocks they are the depressed huge square allen key types...I dont know what you call them.
                  Cant findbthe right sized nuts anywhere! Bajaj changed the design and size after this, will source new forks etc with space for my disc brakes.
                  Also need steal braided brake fluid hose, hf dawn headlamps, new speedo console (hf dawn!/ caliber since I just need the odo and speedometer with neutral light), I wanted to try the passion paper air filter but dont want to work hard with my afr again...
                  My pulsar is becoming splensar


                  divyansh....
                  The allen key nut yor are talking off is called Bolt cap plug.

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                  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Today I did a diy. Couldn't take pics im sorry will take them and post next time I do it.
                    My clutch was feeling very hard.... I had got my clutch plates changed at 70 thousand kms an the clutch was still hard as ever and I thought it was the way the bike was.... when new it was softer no doubt but then it grew harder ove the years and today I thought my clutch was very hard... so what did I do?
                    Diy cluch cable lubing:P
                    Im making it sound as if I did something huge
                    So I opened the cable and ound lubing it was a nightmare...
                    Put it back the way it was... depressed the clutch lever and then used a syringe to put some oil (sewing machine oil made by usha, and yes I stole it from my mom:P) down the clutch cable between the wire and the sheeth... and kept operating the clutch..... it started getting softer and softer till I was satisfied that its as soft as it gets also check the way your clutch cable goes down too twisted etc and clutch will be harder.

                    My clutch cable has never rusted and has expanded only 2 cms in over a decade it has never snapped or anything, should I replace it? Its good as new now.
                    divyansh....

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                    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                      Today I did a diy. Couldn't take pics im sorry will take them and post next time I do it.
                      My clutch was feeling very hard.... I had got my clutch plates changed at 70 thousand kms an the clutch was still hard as ever and I thought it was the way the bike was.... when new it was softer no doubt but then it grew harder ove the years and today I thought my clutch was very hard... so what did I do?
                      Diy cluch cable lubing:P
                      Im making it sound as if I did something huge
                      So I opened the cable and ound lubing it was a nightmare...
                      Put it back the way it was... depressed the clutch lever and then used a syringe to put some oil (sewing machine oil made by usha, and yes I stole it from my mom:P) down the clutch cable between the wire and the sheeth... and kept operating the clutch..... it started getting softer and softer till I was satisfied that its as soft as it gets also check the way your clutch cable goes down too twisted etc and clutch will be harder.

                      My clutch cable has never rusted and has expanded only 2 cms in over a decade it has never snapped or anything, should I replace it? Its good as new now.
                      divyansh....

                      Yes clutch cable and throttle cables should be replaced if they are lengthened from the original length, i don't think that these cables catches rust all of them are free moving, you could have also greased them by pulling all the cable out and then steadily inserting grease and pushing the cable inside simultaneously.

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                      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        The Splendor's clutch becomes super tight ( very hard to depress the lever ) and might even break if you oil it . I did that by mistake once and suffered , had to go easy on the clutch for 2 - 3 days until the oil dripped out and the cable dried up somewhat . So don't oil the Splendor's clutch cable . Front brake , throttle and speedo cables are fine to oil though . As far as I could see , only the speedo cable can be fully dismantled ( the inner taken out ) - so it can be greased .. which is what I did today afternoon only . Infact since yesterday I have fully dismantled and serviced both the brake assemblies , centred both brakes , and re-greased all wheel bearings and the sprocket bearing , regreased speedo pinion gears and axles , trued the chain run and adjusted slack too . All things not done in about one and a half year of riding . The mysterious occasional khat sound comming from the rear has disappeared , I think it was the rear brakes - the brake cam had become fully dry , maybe it was binding or something . Castrol long-life grease didn't survive 20 months , used waxpol this time .
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 05-20-2014, 10:14 PM.

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                        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                          The Splendor's clutch becomes super tight ( very hard to depress the lever ) and might even break if you oil it . I did that by mistake once and suffered , had to go easy on the clutch for 2 - 3 days until the oil dripped out and the cable dried up somewhat . So don't oil the Splendor's clutch cable . Front brake , throttle and speedo cables are fine to oil though . As far as I could see , only the speedo cable can be fully dismantled ( the inner taken out ) - so it can be greased .. which is what I did today afternoon only . Infact since yesterday I have fully dismantled and serviced both the brake assemblies , centred both brakes , and re-greased all wheel bearings and the sprocket bearing , regreased speedo pinion gears and axles , trued the chain run and adjusted slack too . All things not done in about one and a half year of riding . The mysterious occasional khat sound comming from the rear has disappeared , I think it was the rear brakes - the brake cam had become fully dry , maybe it was binding or something . Castrol long-life grease didn't survive 20 months , used waxpol this time .
                          Omg, now what should I do? I have oiled it and the cable cannot be dismantled
                          Exactly like you said. Should I blow the oil out? The clutch cable is 11 years old and so is the throttle and speedometer cable I ruined them?
                          divyansh....

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                          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                            Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                            Omg, now what should I do? I have oiled it and the cable cannot be dismantled
                            Exactly like you said. Should I blow the oil out? The clutch cable is 11 years old and so is the throttle and speedometer cable I ruined them?
                            divyansh....
                            How is the response of your clutch after oiling, has it smoothen out, the oil will drip past as you will use it, why is that splendor's clutch cable should not be lubricated, i have seen Asc doing this, oiling the cable with there oil pump.

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                            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                              As far as could find out , Splendor's clutch cable is friction-free type with some kind of coating inside there . Oiling it makes that coating material clog up in some way and the problem . In most literature the coating material is said to be teflon or nylon . But I am not sure about the exact material used on the hero cable . There is supposed to be a warning on the clutch cable package that it should not be oiled , but I'm not sure about that either - since I haven't had to buy a clutch cable yet . But one thing is sure , it really happened to mine after a generous oiling .
                              This is only for the clutch cable , the other cables ( speedo , front brake & throttle ) were fine with oiling - no problem .

                              Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                              Omg, now what should I do? I have oiled it and the cable cannot be dismantled
                              Exactly like you said. Should I blow the oil out? The clutch cable is 11 years old and so is the throttle and speedometer cable I ruined them?
                              divyansh....
                              Is your cable Hero / Hero-Honda OEM part ? AFAIK only OEM Hero-Honda ( Hero ) and Suzuki clutch cables are friction-free type .
                              Last edited by Pinaki; 05-21-2014, 01:08 AM.

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                              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                                Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                                As far as could find out , Splendor's clutch cable is friction-free type with some kind of coating inside there . Oiling it makes that coating material clog up in some way and the problem . In most literature the coating material is said to be teflon or nylon . But I am not sure about the exact material used on the hero cable . There is supposed to be a warning on the clutch cable package that it should not be oiled , but I'm not sure about that either - since I haven't had to buy a clutch cable yet . But one thing is sure , it really happened to mine after a generous oiling .
                                This is only for the clutch cable , the other cables ( speedo , front brake & throttle ) were fine with oiling - no problem .

                                Is your cable Hero / Hero-Honda OEM part ? AFAIK only OEM Hero-Honda ( Hero ) and Suzuki clutch cables are friction-free type .
                                No its not hero part
                                Il be buying new cables tomorrow:thumbup:

                                divyansh....

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