Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

[MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] bro Tuned my passion pro's carb according to your guide. I got a tuning of 1.2 turns. Is it ok? I am asking this because it was mentioned that ideal tuning is between 1.25 to 1.75 turns.

Tapatalked from my Canvas A76

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

And a small problem i am facing in my pro... When the bike clibs an inclined rod or at speeds above 60 kmph on accelerating there is a metal vibrating sound coming from the silencer.. What is that? Silencer cover is tighted firmly.

Tapatalked from my Canvas A76

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Typical honda sticky valve syndrome, also mabe you have floating vales on a little higher revs, very strange
Get clutch adjusted(if it hasent gone kaput already by now, engine oil replaced,



divyansh....

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Since regular service was done at the ASC and warranty is intact - report the matter to ASC immediately ( without towing the bike there ) . If response is unsatisfactory , send descriptive email to Honda India . They shall come to your place to collect your bike and rectify all problems fully .

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Pls call up the ASC and give them a piece of your mind in a polite but firm way. Not sure if they will come all the way 35km (i had them do it, but it was only around 3 km)
Do write to honda if their response or actions are not satisfactory. [email protected]

They probably even made you buy some bull**** extended warranty and road side assistance..didn't they ? Check your invoices or bills if you still have them.. most asc's will bill you for these even without your consent. If they did then you should press for them to come and recover the vehicle at your home and take it to the ASC.

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Let me tell you man Honda has got efficiently poorest Asc, what one of my friend has experienced that they don't even looks at your complaints, customer care is also as poor good as the ASC centres, but you have got no other choice atleast write to them in appropriate words, not be too polite and not be too harsh after all you have spend a good amount of money by purchasing there product.

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

I kept the bike idle overnight and today morning it started immediately as if nothing had happened. Tried using button start along with repeated pumping of clutch in neutral and engine started after a few hiccups. Now its running normal

Last time my bike stalled there was not compression in gear also; I think that was a sticky valve. But yesterday the bike was moving forward even depressed clutch in gear. Now clutch action is noticeably smoother than before. Something related to clutch it seems. Luckily both times the bike stalled near my house, so I wasnt stranded. However I am concerned about taking her for long rides especially at night (my factory is in a sparsely populated rural area).

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

The clutch bell of the yuga and twister dosent have many holes, a friend had clutch issues with his twister he got a few holes drilled in the cluth bell (he says it helps the clutch plates get more oil and prevents lockup), im not quite sure about it but I will esquire and intimate you the same.
For the sticky valve syndrome...no help as of now, its a 'honda' thing, get valve oil seals and valve springs checked, maybe get stronger valve springs, sad to see this. Visit the honda twister thread for better understanding of that particular issue, maybe you can get someone with the same issue. That engine is same as yours.
Hope it helps you bhai.

divyansh....

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Write a heavy mail to HMSI telling exactly the problem and attitude of svc regarding correcting it. Push for warranty as much as possible . Ask them to change everything to solve the problem.

Or show it to a reputed mech outside but it will make lose your warranty . Losing compression seems due to valve sticking, change everything related it valves, guide , seal, if needed entire head assembly and clutch too , but i think you will need to push really hard to get them changed al this

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Do a compression test of your yuga bike by a compression meter, and if you find it low then certainly valves are the culprit, you can also test compression by opening the engine head of the bike, i don't think you are gonna find good mechanics in honda Asc's , if you want to keep your bike in top condition or atleast in running condition you ought to find a good outsider mechanic as you have already tasted the quality of these so called unauthorised style authorised service centres.

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

Your bike is not starting because of the compression leaking. The cause is valve leakage and nothing else. Your bike is in warranty but you can never get anything in warranty due to useless ASC. The solution is to polish the valves and compression will return. For now you can start the bike by opening the spark plug, pour 3-4 tablespoon of engine oil in cylinder through spark plug hole and slowly kick keeping the spark plug hole covered with cloth. After 20-25 kicks fit the spark plug and bike will start.Bike moving on clutch depressing and on gear is not a problem as your bike is not equipped with secondary clutch like in Yamaha RX 100 or SUZUKI Samurai. So your bike will move in gear with clutch depressed.There is nothing like fixed number of turns. It will vary from bike to bike and place to place.Check the silencer cover underside fiber washer. Will have been squeezed. Change that with new one.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

There are very few who maintain the bike like you. May be I shall also accompany your ride. What say?

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Did you notice the rims and both mudguards? This is a poor joy indeed, without maintaining it!

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

I have also had same experience in my Dream Yuga as well ( brought sept'12) but i saw this issue only once and had to push my bike to close by mechanic, He just tried electric start for like 2-3 mins continuous and it started. The bike behaved like nothing happened and has been working fine since then. When i told the Honda ASC during subsequent service they said they will check it up and didnt check even a thing ( i know because they hadnt even opened the head or even checked compression) and had no answer on why this could be happening in a bike which is barely a year old

The last week i took it to Saphire honda to get the Valve clearance checked ( it wasnt done in 1yr free service even though Manual tells them to ) and chain adjusted, I didnt want to combine with regular service as i know they dont do anything in regular service and dont attend to any problems. ASC took in the bike in morning and said we will check and deliver by evening 5PM and when i called them up at 5.30 they said its work in progress and when asked for amount they asked what was the estimate i got I told themthat the estimate was 200 rs. The caller said ok and asked me to come by 6PM and pick up.
I reach at 6PM and ask for bike and i was told that they have checked and since its a engine work they will need 2 days and said i can collect the bike after 2 days !!! I checked bike and noticed that they hadnt even touched the bike forget checking something. They had completed regular service for other bikes which were left after my bike ( based on numbering ) and i think my bike was not even touched because the estimate was only 200 and they cant charge me for so called service and oil change so they convieniently said it needs more time ( may be planning to say later something else was wrong and charge a bigger amount). I was finally fedup and took my bike back without getting anything done and wasting my time in ASC. Honda ASC is there only to make quick money and I dont think Honda quality is the same which was may be earlier

So bottom line, I wouldnt recommend anybody to buy Honda bikes purely because of the ASC experience and the quality that i have seen off late in Honda vehicles ( may be SIbun or others can comment on Hero bike quality now )
I would also appreciate if anybody can recommend a good mechanic near Silk board junction Bangalore for getting my bike serviced outside the ASC. I dont want to waste my time anymore in ASC and I dont think the Honda warranty is worth anything

Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

This isn't a complicated problem for them to rectify , and on brand new bikes too ! Makes me very sad to hear this about Honda and their service network in India , and I hear this all the time and all over . So even some of it is truthful reflection , they'll have to do a lot better to overcome Splendor's sales numbers . Ill repute like this once acquired , shall not go away for a long time to come .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

That Joy is not only ill maintained but also not cared for by its owner may be the bike is so well built that it requires nil to negligible maintenance for it to run.You are any day welcome to ride with me. Some day you will see 10 lacs kilometers on my Joy and still it will be kicking the new bikes in performance.

Whoa! that was a long post and i can understand your frustration as buying a bike with hopes for good performance and then being betrayed on quality is something everyone will get pissed off. You are not the only one but there are many Honda owners who are in the same position as you. When new they were pleased with the bike but latter they got pissed with the bike.

Remember i had told a neighbor of mine exchanging his splendor for Shine. Not as his shine started smoking and consuming oil at alarming rate, he rebored it and sold it and now is back to Hero and has bought a Glamor. Still he misses his splendor very much. Quality in Honda bikes have come down very much and also the SVC are bunch of looters.

Ill reputation like these will cause manufacturers to slowly lose out in market. May be Honda took indian customers for granted as they know indians are obsessed with the Honda name. Honda got free publicity because of Hero as Hero bikes are best in quality. People thought that it was because of Honda the quality was there but instead it was Hero who was manufacturing which resulted in quality. Now after the partition you can see Hero still maintaining its quality.

Regarding Hero quality what can i say as all my bikes are there like Joy, pleasure and extreme. Joy what can i say as all is there in this thread and nothing else to say. Pleasure has nil maintenance as only head was cleaned, valves polished and clutch shoe changed in 30k kms. Recently after head was cleaned, after 1000 km adjusted the tappets to OE settings, retuned the carb and it is running like charm with mileage back to 55-60 kpl.

And extreme is running like crazy mostly above 6k rpm and still returning mileage in excess of 50 kpl. Recently the oil rings were fried because of heavy running with high speed in these extreme heat. Change of rings and bike is back to normal. Also on 6th when i was returning from my village after my cousins marriage, bike had only 150 ml of engine oil left but still i traveled 120 km with two up and at 70-80 kph in this heat and still also engine didn't had any problem.

Tappet adjustment is something that i never trust with any body. If my friends come with any problem in their bikes first thing i do is immediately check the tappets with feeler gauge before looking at anything.


Regarding tappet adjustment then i will tell you a interesting incident:-

Usually sometimes on saturday or sunday i go to my retailer friends shop and nearby mechanics come to get spares. That day i had taken my extreme and a mechanic(they know me well) asked me how much my extreme is returning. I replied 50-55 kpl and he was surprised to hear that. He said most of the extreme in his workshop returns 40 kpl. Then he took a test ride of my extreme and was surprised as my bike pulled hard. He said that he will bring a extreme and i will teach him how to set the bike to give good pick up and mileage. i said ok.

The next saturday he called me and said that he has an extreme with him. So i went to his place and 8 in night and taught him how to adjust tappets with feeler gauge. Then i asked him to change the oil to 10W 30 and then i tuned the carb. Now the bike is flying and the owner is happy.