Since '02 xBhp is different things to different people. From a close knit national community of bikers to India's only motorcycling lifestyle magazine and a place to make like-minded biker friends. Join us

Castrol Power 1

Always use both brakes to reduce speed.

Our Partner

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    Some photos to liven up the thread.


    Basking in the morning sun. The same day morning on which the engine was opened.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148848[/ATTACH]
    Rear three quarters view

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148849[/ATTACH]

    From the left side. Thing of beauty is Joy(pun intended) for ever
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148850[/ATTACH]

    Front view. Standing like a classic looking down the road.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148851[/ATTACH]

    The rear view. Bike looks pleasant to look at especially the front lower stance.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148852[/ATTACH]

    The next day after the engine re-build. Bike was washed thoroughly in the morning and a wax coating was applied on the bike. Wish my extreme paint looked half as good as this one.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]148853[/ATTACH]


    PS- next sunday will celebrate the Joys birthday. Since i bought it on 8th of july but on that day will be in office. So will clean and polish the bike and take it to temple on sunday on 6th.

    Wishing very very happy birthday to the joy, may you enjoy with your joy forever.

    Comment


    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
      Yes both are driven by same mechanism, its just tripmeter is made to reset after 999km and not the odo. A thick black wire from speedo to front wheel drives it ,removing which will make odo still.
      I understand. I am facing a problem from the past few days. My passion pro's trip meter runs for sometime like about 8 or 9 kms and resets by itself. Then it starts counting from 0.0. This process keeps on repeating. But for my luck, the odometer runs fine. What i am confused about is, in the future, will the odometer also behave like this?

      Comment


      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

        Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
        Pulsar bar end weights? Damm dats a wide handle..comfortable ehh? Stock? Suzuki heat had very wide handles too been trying to source one for long trips since long...which one is this? You need a new tank?! (man I dont think we can source a new one as shiny as that!)

        Divyansh....
        Ya thats the pulsar bar end weights. Yes the handle is super wide. In fact Joy has the widest handle bars among all hero bikes. Only bikes that have as wide handle bars are the clip-ons on extreme and ZMR.

        You asking comfortable, its super comfortable. Yes its the original handle bar. If you want will give you the part number and you can source it from hero dealer.

        Ya have repaired this one by carefully cutting the lower part by covering the sticker with ice and with pencil thin gas flame. I myself sat near the welder to ensure that nothing wrong happens. Then after the work took it to painter and the lower portion was painted with 2k primer, 2k putty and 2k color from Sikkens.

        Do not worry you can get new tank as shiny as old one as those time the paint quality was different. Have polished the tank using WAXPOL ULTRA GLO which have UV guard.

        Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
        Wishing very very happy birthday to the joy, may you enjoy with your joy forever.
        Thanks for the wish.


        Originally posted by jeswin View Post
        I understand. I am facing a problem from the past few days. My passion pro's trip meter runs for sometime like about 8 or 9 kms and resets by itself. Then it starts counting from 0.0. This process keeps on repeating. But for my luck, the odometer runs fine. What i am confused about is, in the future, will the odometer also behave like this?

        No the ODO will not reset as it is written on a ROM which cannot be erased. Have you dried the speedo unit to check if the error is because of moisture on the board.

        Else what you can do is take the speedo to someone who is a master in mobile repairing and ask him to desolder the chip which writes the trip meter data using soldering pump used in mobiles, and get a damaged speedo unit and open it and get the trip meter chip from that one.
        Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

        Comment


        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          Originally posted by sibun View Post
          Do not worry you can get new tank as shiny as old one as those time the paint quality was different. Have polished the tank using WAXPOL ULTRA GLO which have UV guard.


          No the ODO will not reset as it is written on a ROM which cannot be erased. Have you dried the speedo unit to check if the error is because of moisture on the board.

          Else what you can do is take the speedo to someone who is a master in mobile repairing and ask him to desolder the chip which writes the trip meter data using soldering pump used in mobiles, and get a damaged speedo unit and open it and get the trip meter chip from that one.

          I bought new petrol cap cover and its paint quality seemed bit low at first , i washed and waxed with carnauba wax , and it shined like new. Your Joy's deep black glow makes Xtreme`s black seem greyish. I sorely miss the paint quality of Splendor in extreme. 12 yrs it stood against no wax/polish just washing at homes with shampoo and still its shine is knocks out new bikes out of competition. Even after i restored splendor to almost showroom day, i was not able to ride it as my brother has kept it with him. Sibun you were right most of the time teenagers buy bikes what their "gf" prefers , had they knew the value of such old quality made bikes they wont trash ride it. In our city 100cc commuter bikes are limited to elder people or persons like us who know the proper use of splendor/passion . Kids now need 200+cc bikes so that there status isnt hurt by riding commuter bikes , sad to see these things are prevalent in educated india.

          This is the pic of my splendor after i almost restored it, later i changed rear tyre and fixed a new mud flap. Bought second hand mirrors and cleaned them using slighly acidic solution. Only remaining issue is idling for which i am saving and buy a new carb to avoid hit and trial method now.

          Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC_0006.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	109.0 KB
ID:	1884269

          I am not sure its 12 yr old by looking at this pic , seems just 1-2 yrs old. This is beauty of these old age contenders.
          [MENTION=61630]jeswin[/MENTION] you can follow what sibun has said or since your bike is in warranty you can claim for this issue at SVC , but as you know how warranty nagging is it wont hurt to atleast claim for it.
          Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

          Comment


          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            No
            Originally posted by sibun View Post
            Guys what happened, this thread is dead for so many days. Guess no one is interested in buying new splendor/passion and all. Let it be, we old owners are just left with these bikes. Some updates on my Joy. Bike has crossed 2000 km after engine re-build. When the engine was re-bulit we used Hero 10W 30 oil as the new bore was too tight to use 20W 40 oil. At 500 km drained the oil and filled Veedol 10W 30 premium oil. After the engine re-built had tuned the bike at idle. After the rings settled down the engine started to misfire. Opened the plug to see that the mixture had become super rich. Re-tuned the engine and the bike became super smooth. Spark plug color is now brick red and bike runs as smooth as it gets. Checked mileage recently and bike is returning 86 kpl and under normal riding returning around 75-78 kpl. Have couple of times pushed till 70 kph and no more as letting the engine settle properly. Changed the front brake cable and also the front brake shoe to OE and the front brake now bites like DISC. One of my cousin brother rode some days prior when we were going to give the extreme for ring change and he was just amazed as how the bike was running. Another funny incident my younger cousin brother and his friends were talking and his friend has brought a new bike( cant remember what) and he was praising how smooth it is. Then my cousin brother said, just ride my brothers joy and you will see smoothness and peace of riding definition will change for good.Will post some photos to make this thread lively on sunday.
            Can you tell me the mileage of the new splendor 2014 model(not the I smart) . Real mileage city and the highway

            Sent from my C2004 using xBhp Connect mobile app

            Comment


            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              Originally posted by deep007 View Post
              No

              Can you tell me the mileage of the new splendor 2014 model(not the I smart) . Real mileage city and the highway

              Sent from my C2004 using xBhp Connect mobile app
              Hey brother. Bike fuel economy in the newer splendours I am not sure of but heard it wikk range from 60 to 70kmpl. but remember there aRe bike like platina etc that will offer higher mileage initially... but inconsistent and unreliable they are... our 97 gems(97 cc engines) are ultra cheap on spares, super reliable and will be consistent with mileage and performance. Also will take abuse better then the other ones. Highly mechanic friendly. Absolutely no parts issue possible. The huge warranty and years of proven design and performance.... are the icing on the cake. these bikes are like a faithful companion... they wont let you down when you need them... and yes mileage is ever consistent with these machines... new bikes will come and go but 97 gems will go on forever ( ola the brook) thats the reasons these continue to sell.... its an overall package.. I dont want flashy paints and alloys and virat kohlis and dhonis in advertisement... I want proof of years of un tainted image and sworn bulletproof reliability!

              A honda cub(similar to a splendour but different body pannels etc and a lesser bore engine...) was used with vegitable oil(used) in place of engine oil... beat up and crashwd, overloaded, and to top it all off thrown off a building 5 stories high... it still started!!! watch the video on youtube.. nuff said remember when the world ends in an apocalypse splendours, cockroaches and bear grylls will survive!

              Divyansh....
              (edit:- this message is for everyone.)

              Comment


              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                Originally posted by deep007 View Post
                No

                Can you tell me the mileage of the new splendor 2014 model(not the I smart) . Real mileage city and the highway

                Sent from my C2004 using xBhp Connect mobile app

                Real mileage of an vehicle depends on traffic conditions ,riding style and on maintenance of the vehicle, newer 2014 splendors are really splendor in mileage, the mileage you will be getting is anywhere between 65 to 70 km/l, if you ride the bike properly.

                Comment


                • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  Originally posted by sibun View Post
                  Actually its not an effort on my part but it is the bikes quality as it has never asked maintenance from me, you will be surprised to hear that the bike has not suffered a puncture from last five years. Almost 90% of the bike is still that came from factory. So no it is not my effort but the quality of bike, although i agree that i have also taken care like none as i used to skip meals in college to save money for maintaining my bike like new. In my home nobody calls it as bike, but everybody refers it as my elder son as there is a dog in my house which they call it as my middle son( i love it very much and he also does the same), and a cat which they call as my younger son(he will wait for me and if anybody has scolded him will complain me by showing signs), and i think after me only my mother knows how much i love my bike as she also tells that she will never allow anybody in house to sell the bike.The new Dawn is slightly better than my joy when it comes to engine as it consist of new engine whose basic architecture is same as Joy but the difference is that it has more torque and power at lower rpm, also it has 8 pole lightning which will give light like cars and also has DC ignition which gives better firing. But do not expect the same quality as Joy because in todays world quality is not that drives sale but the show and quantity of features and price that drives market, in fact my mechanic, showroom mechanic and i have also felt that none of the bikes i have ridden till date has same quality like my Joy. Yamaha crux is a very good bike but i liked the Crux-R which i liked more than plain Crux, but the main problem is that Yamaha has decreased the quality than the first generation Crux in order to price it cheaper. Also spares back up by Yamaha is horrible for Crux and Libero, so i advice you against it if you want new bike. You can go for Dawn or if you spare some more cash then you can go for CD Deluxe with self start as Self is a great convenience.On another note i would like to add a few more things here.The last weekend when i went to my house, i went to visit my old workplace and meet the workers there, as you know my place of works were bridge sites so bound to be rivers and sands. I took the Joy as when i go to house i just keep the CBZ and ride Joy, so the thing is that i was riding through the river bed where only trucks and tractors go, the low end torque of my my joy is so good that i was riding in sand in second gear and also while stopping and starting just shift into first and light throttle it will pull from sand easily, after riding my Joy when i rode my extreme i felt as if there is no power in the extreme below 3k rpm, even it felt as if some problem is there in the bike, my joy will pull as if it is having no load but extreme will pull as if it is pulling very slow. However it is a different matter that after 5k Rpm extreme delivers power like crazy. So if somebody asks the difference between torque and power then i have practical experience on these bikes which is enough to tell the differences.

                  After a long time sibun bhai!....I need your expert advice and suggestions for my dilemma. I've switched my job in Bangalore and I am looking for a new bike for comfortable travel for 70 kms per day!

                  Right now I have figured out my options as Honda Unicorn (Initial cost and mileage are my concern) or Yamaha Crux (For Mileage and less maintenance ownership).

                  wanted to ask you if Yamaha Crux will be comfortable for this?. I mean the seating comfort and engine capability in terms of doing 60-70 Kmph for long distances with good mileage.

                  Thanks in advance.......

                  Comment


                  • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Sorry for replying Harish, as you have asked this question from sibun, but the bikes you have short listed are of totally different spec, one is 150cc and the other one is a puny styled 100cc engine, i wont say anything about unicorn as this bike has established itself by his performance and reliability, coming on to the Crux, if looks of a bike dosen't bother you then Crux is the bike to purchase, this bike has got the best Gearbox, engine is a sweet little diamond, mileage you will easily get around 65km/l, infact i met a guy who is having this bike for last 3 years and he is getting mileage of 73km/l, bike is absolutely comfortable, no problem in covering long distance the only thing you have to realise is that it's just a 100cc motor, you can purchase this bike blind folded.

                    Comment


                    • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      Originally posted by Harishbsrao View Post
                      After a long time sibun bhai!....I need your expert advice and suggestions for my dilemma. I've switched my job in Bangalore and I am looking for a new bike for comfortable travel for 70 kms per day!

                      Right now I have figured out my options as Honda Unicorn (Initial cost and mileage are my concern) or Yamaha Crux (For Mileage and less maintenance ownership).

                      wanted to ask you if Yamaha Crux will be comfortable for this?. I mean the seating comfort and engine capability in terms of doing 60-70 Kmph for long distances with good mileage.

                      Thanks in advance.......
                      Choose the hf-dawn above the crux
                      (simply because you will have this ownership thread on xbhp for backup!) nuff said! Choose the hf dawn...! can cruze at 80 with a 230rs lower teeth rear sproket

                      Divyansh....

                      Comment


                      • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        Originally posted by deep007 View Post
                        No

                        Can you tell me the mileage of the new splendor 2014 model(not the I smart) . Real mileage city and the highway

                        Sent from my C2004 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                        Ok splendor has two models, one is splendor+ and the other is splendor pro, leaving the i-smart out. The difference between the splendor+ and splendor pro is that splendor is the old model engine with AC CDI and all while the pro is new model with more torque at low rpm and also has DC CDI and self start, and has far better headlight.

                        The splendor + will return around 65 kpl in mileage in city and 70+ on highway. The splendor pro will deliver more mileage in city at around 68-70 kpl due to more low end torque. The highway mileage will be more or less same as splendor +.

                        As [MENTION=39856]divyansh[/MENTION]ip150 has said many other bikes return more mileage but the consistency, trouble free performance and any where parts availability cannot be matched by anybody.

                        Originally posted by Harishbsrao View Post
                        After a long time sibun bhai!....I need your expert advice and suggestions for my dilemma. I've switched my job in Bangalore and I am looking for a new bike for comfortable travel for 70 kms per day!

                        Right now I have figured out my options as Honda Unicorn (Initial cost and mileage are my concern) or Yamaha Crux (For Mileage and less maintenance ownership).

                        wanted to ask you if Yamaha Crux will be comfortable for this?. I mean the seating comfort and engine capability in terms of doing 60-70 Kmph for long distances with good mileage.

                        Thanks in advance.......

                        Both are from different categories. Its like comparing apples and peaches since both are fruits. Unicorn is already proven bike having great mileage for a 150 cc bike. So i have nothing more to tell. Well Yamaha crux is a great bike, smooth, frugal and trouble free. But the greatest problem is that spares issue will haunt you and also bike doesn't have any re-sale value. No body will buy it when you sell it. You can have a look at HF DELUXE which is an excellent and frugal bike. Also you can look at the super splendor with a bigger engine and huge amounts of low end torque and mileage of around 65 kpl.
                        Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

                        Comment


                        • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Ok splendor has two models, one is splendor+ and the other is splendor pro, leaving the i-smart out. The difference between the splendor+ and splendor pro is that splendor is the old model engine with AC CDI and all while the pro is new model with more torque at low rpm and also has DC CDI and self start, and has far better headlight.

                          The splendor + will return around 65 kpl in mileage in city and 70+ on highway. The splendor pro will deliver more mileage in city at around 68-70 kpl due to more low end torque. The highway mileage will be more or less same as splendor +.

                          As @divyanship150 has said many other bikes return more mileage but the consistency, trouble free performance and any where parts availability cannot be matched by anybody.




                          Both are from different categories. Its like comparing apples and peaches since both are fruits. Unicorn is already proven bike having great mileage for a 150 cc bike. So i have nothing more to tell. Well Yamaha crux is a great bike, smooth, frugal and trouble free. But the greatest problem is that spares issue will haunt you and also bike doesn't have any re-sale value. No body will buy it when you sell it. You can have a look at HF DELUXE which is an excellent and frugal bike. Also you can look at the super splendor with a bigger engine and huge amounts of low end torque and mileage of around 65 kpl.


                          I don't think there should be any problem in getting spares of crux, if one maintains the bike regularly he won't need that much parts to replace, i agree on you on resale value which is low, but then the purchase amount is also quite low, if he keeps the crux with himself for say 4 to 5 years he will reap all the benefit and a well maintaned bike will fetch at least 15000rs whenever he sells it.

                          I am not sure of super splendor but this bike from hero stables is not selling in that numbers in which cd and splendor sells. Engine is good but not as reliable as the likes of splendors or passion.

                          Comment


                          • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                            Originally posted by sibun View Post
                            No the ODO will not reset as it is written on a ROM which cannot be erased. Have you dried the speedo unit to check if the error is because of moisture on the board.

                            Else what you can do is take the speedo to someone who is a master in mobile repairing and ask him to desolder the chip which writes the trip meter data using soldering pump used in mobiles, and get a damaged speedo unit and open it and get the trip meter chip from that one.
                            "The odometer will not reset" Consoles me. The moisture dried up. I did not open it! The trip meter was the only thing that was creating the problem. To my surprise, from yesterday onwards, the trip meter also started working properly. Its not frequently resetting now. It reads 187.7 now. Before that, even 10 km wont be counted. Before reaching 10, it will reset by itself. If it gives such problems in future, i shall follow the second method, that too with the help of mechanic. I am really afraid to do it alone!

                            ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                            Originally posted by RohIIT View Post

                            I am not sure its 12 yr old by looking at this pic , seems just 1-2 yrs old. This is beauty of these old age contenders.
                            @jeswin you can follow what sibun has said or since your bike is in warranty you can claim for this issue at SVC , but as you know how warranty nagging is it wont hurt to atleast claim for it.
                            Yes sir, but i dont think that my bike is in warranty now, because, after the 3rd free service, i never go to Hero showroom. The bike was serviced 2 times by my mechanic, after getting rid of Hero service. I bought my bike on february 2013 but still i have 3 free service coupons left with me! I go to service centre to renew the bike's insurance alone!. I dont think that i can claim warranty. Right? The trip meter is working fine now. No issues
                            Glad to see you have restored the splendor. Looks simply beautiful. We cant see much splendors in blue and red colours, but you have one. Happy riding.

                            Comment


                            • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                              Originally posted by sibun View Post
                              Ok splendor has two models, one is splendor+ and the other is splendor pro, leaving the i-smart out. The difference between the splendor+ and splendor pro is that splendor is the old model engine with AC CDI and all while the pro is new model with more torque at low rpm and also has DC CDI and self start, and has far better headlight.

                              The splendor + will return around 65 kpl in mileage in city and 70+ on highway. The splendor pro will deliver more mileage in city at around 68-70 kpl due to more low end torque. The highway mileage will be more or less same as splendor +.

                              As @divyanship150 has said many other bikes return more mileage but the consistency, trouble free performance and any where parts availability cannot be matched by anybody.




                              Both are from different categories. Its like comparing apples and peaches since both are fruits. Unicorn is already proven bike having great mileage for a 150 cc bike. So i have nothing more to tell. Well Yamaha crux is a great bike, smooth, frugal and trouble free. But the greatest problem is that spares issue will haunt you and also bike doesn't have any re-sale value. No body will buy it when you sell it. You can have a look at HF DELUXE which is an excellent and frugal bike. Also you can look at the super splendor with a bigger engine and huge amounts of low end torque and mileage of around 65 kpl.
                              Thank you for your valuable inputs, I know its not the right comparison b/w bikes but somehow I like the classic looks and reviews of Crux and that of Unicorn also.

                              I will probably wait for some more time and compare the above bikes with the newly launched Honda CD 110 and then decide.

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                              Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                              I don't think there should be any problem in getting spares of crux, if one maintains the bike regularly he won't need that much parts to replace, i agree on you on resale value which is low, but then the purchase amount is also quite low, if he keeps the crux with himself for say 4 to 5 years he will reap all the benefit and a well maintaned bike will fetch at least 15000rs whenever he sells it.

                              I am not sure of super splendor but this bike from hero stables is not selling in that numbers in which cd and splendor sells. Engine is good but not as reliable as the likes of splendors or passion.
                              Thank you, I too have an idea of retaining the Crux for myself if I buy it. Will decide about which bike to buy in another 2-3 weeks.

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                              Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                              Choose the hf-dawn above the crux
                              (simply because you will have this ownership thread on xbhp for backup!) nuff said! Choose the hf dawn...! can cruze at 80 with a 230rs lower teeth rear sproket

                              Divyansh....
                              Thank you, HF dawn was also there in my list but somehow I like the looks of Crux as it resembles RX, Will make the modification to the sprocket if I go for Dawn.

                              Comment


                              • Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                                Guys with digital meters resetting issue it is due to some capacitor issue in hero meters... passion xpro and pro etc guys are getting replacemets in meters... at a nearby svc saw 2 guys. replaceable only if issue crops up.

                                Divyansh....

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X