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I haven't got any words for you and your bike man, may God bless you and your bike forever, iam very far from your state if i would have been living any nearby state of your stare i would have definitely met you and your bike, keep riding and keep posting. Splendid and blood rushing stuff.

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Yes . If you disassemble this part by taking out that screw on the side there is a black rubber tube inside the nozzle . That is the thing that clamps around the air-valve end on our tyres . Remove it with screwdriver tip ( pry out ) and replace . Replacement rubbers are available at the same shops that sells the foot pumps , for around Rs 5-10 apiece . I'll try to post a pic of the thingy ...

This type can flings the oil out forcefully and far from target . i.e is not well controlled . I have it and it's useless for the bike . I use the same sewing machine oil squeeze-bottle for chain and elsewhere on the bike that Shoeb suggested . Very good ! Save yourself the hunt

Am here bhai , reading all your posts now at 6am . Could not post much owing to odd hours and work squeeze . But am with you all always .

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Thanks in a million Pinaki Ji, You just made my day

I knew this is the right place to ask....So many DIY experts around here.

I bought this pump from a Tyre & Tube shop from Rafi Ahemed Kidwai Road where the Bike market start at Welington in 2011.

Lets See If I can open it. I'll report back here.

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One off-topic question here. Pardon me!.

I have a friend who owns a hero glamour (unicorn type headlight and analogue and digital meter console). He told me that the speedo meter cable is directly connected to the engine. I did not believe his words initially. But, later on when i checked it, i too found out that only the front brake cable was present there. Moreover, when i rode his bike, the needle of the speedometer will increase gradually. Even a tiny shivering or vibration of the needle cannot be felt. Is it true what i saw? Kindly correct me if i am wrong.

P.S The ride quality of glamour was simply fantastic. The bike is 2 years and 35 thousand + kms old. It felt brand new. For the first time i felt and experienced, what taller gearing actually is. In my passion pro, i usually shift to 4th gear at a speeed of 30 kmph. When i did the same thing in glamour, the engine was about to knock. Then i tried shifting gears with the engine feel. To my surprise, when i was about to shift the 4th gear, i looked the speedometer. It showed 45kmph!!. Then the bike gradually increased to 60 kmph. No vibrations, no engine sound, only a 'buzzzzz' sound. I simply loved it. Well, this incident happened 1 year ago. I remembered now, so sharing with you people. The bike is still maintained brand new by my friend. Even myself booked a glamour, but the waiting period was 2 months. Due to my impatience, i chose passion pro. There were only 4 bikes in the showroom when i was about to select. When i got the delivery of my bike and came to showroom for collecting the registration procedures the next day, a load of bikes came which had more than 25 glamours. But I am happy with my selection now. If i had got a glamour, then probably i would not have visited this thread and would not happen to know you people also

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Yes the glamor speedo is connected to the front sprocket and a magnetic pick up is placed which picks up the speed. The analogue meter that you see is a stepper motor and not analogue.

Ya glamor is one super smooth bikes, but sadly no much hit in market and once anyone rides the glamor he is hooked. That thing makes 10.35 Nm of torque at 4500 rpm and thus pulls like locomotive. The gear is ultra tall and even at 80 kph its engine feels running on idle.

Even though you have bought the glamor then also you are welcome in this thread.

If i were to buy a commuter bike for someone in family now then it would be glamor.

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What's the reason of glamour not doing good in commuter segment market, and what about the reliability and actual mileage of the vehicle in real riding conditions, one thing that i heard about the glamour and super splendor is that this quantum core engine is not that reliable and picks up oil very early due to weak rings, i confirmed this statement from Asc mechanic and he also says glamour is not reliable as splendors, what's the truth.

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That feel is known as torque. Glamour and super-splendor are one of the best 125cc bikes i have driven till date , pop clutch in 1st gear and bike will start pulling , nail throttle in 4th gear 40kmph it pulls all the way to top end. Also if you have noticed glamour has one of the best idling engine it hold idle at very low rpm too , it feels its had shutoff but in actual its the low idling and if you feel clutch at 30-40kmph you wont feel a single stroke of engine at handle bars . The FI version was expensive that time but it had technology that was ahead of its time ( for Hero ) . Seriously good bike . My friend owns a FI disc version and he has done 90-100K kms on it

The difference in splendor and super splendor is easily felt while riding , splendor feels more agile and easy to handle while twist of throttle is latter will make it zoom past .

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Since we are talking about 125-s I have been recently using a super splendour a lot. Owner is my brother in laws father.... the bike has ample torque in almost all gears... engine is not revv friendly at all I feel... but then again I have been using a 2strke and a old 4s bike recently both of which revv like crazy.. bike has been taken care of exceptionally.. im amazed by the chrome quality and paint quality...bike is very light and under tyred I feel... puny tyres offer no grip at all... but man is it fuel efficient! amazing reliability! And I heard the meter has rolled over and it is well over a lakh kms and 11k odd more.. bone stock... been getting 60+kmpl.. clutch is ultra light... more comfortable then the electra I also use.! bike is very light would have preferred a little more weight. This is a highway bike. It has windtone type horns and extra lamps (dc) battery runs out of juice damm quick unless the engine is running. Plastic quality is phenomenal... a piece of pipe has been put on the main stand to prevent rusting.(none rust anywhere on the bike I feel!)... lovely machine... makes me want to go run and buy a hf dawn ( one of my favourite 97gem) did I mention the shocks are very nice.. and gradual and the response is crisp.. a little warm-up and no acceleration start it all throughout the day. Can the clutch cable be used on any bike? Compare this with say a hero hf dawn or delux? More reliable for the longer run and real world usage difference...?
1) what the hell is quantum core engine? Hero bullshit marketing gimmic right?
2) is this just an over bored 97 gem? Or the engine is completely different from say a 100cc splendour? Now some pictures


Divyansh....

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Its with people perception and nothing else. What's the reason of shine being best seller in 125 cc. It depends on people as most people buy on market perception. Ok my neighbour bought this bike, i will also buy the same. This is what people thinks. Super splendor and glamor are one of the best bikes in 125 cc bikes. I think they are officially also lowest idling bike as they can idle at 500 rpm. Yes the rings are soft as with all bikes today. The main reason why super splendor and glamor require early work is that people use other oil than recommended 10 W 30 grade. When hero came out with that oil it was specifically for super splendor and glamor. In this reason where i am posted mostly glamor's are seen.

You cannot compare splendor's reliabilty with super splendor as splendor and all other older models are never built to price. The on road price of splendor and super splendor is only Rs. 2500 difference. When i bought the Joy, people used to complain that Hero bikes are expensive, but then we have to look at the quality. But today people do not look at quality but price and features, more than anything else.

In same vein as you said that splendor is more reliable than say a super splendor then let me tell you my extreme is not as reliable than Joy. But does it make the extreme un-reliable. No, because the Joy is a legend which just goes on and on. When i bought the extreme i never expected it to be as reliable as my Joy.

Ps:- This is my 1000 th post so what better way than to post it in this thread. Also next week finally after 1.5 years Joy will go on long run as extreme's tank will be given for paint correction, and thus Joy will come with me to my work place. I am sure Joy will complete the journey in 2/3 rd amount of petrol. Will update how much petrol joy used as extreme uses 7 litres for a round trip.

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Its with people perception and nothing else. What's the reason of shine being best seller in 125 cc. It depends on people as most people buy on market perception. Ok my neighbour bought this bike, i will also buy the same. This is what people thinks. Super splendor and glamor are one of the best bikes in 125 cc bikes. I think they are officially also lowest idling bike as they can idle at 500 rpm. Yes the rings are soft as with all bikes today. The main reason why super splendor and glamor require early work is that people use other oil than recommended 10 W 30 grade. When hero came out with that oil it was specifically for super splendor and glamor. In this reason where i am posted mostly glamor's are seen.

You cannot compare splendor's reliabilty with super splendor as splendor and all other older models are never built to price. The on road price of splendor and super splendor is only Rs. 2500 difference. When i bought the Joy, people used to complain that Hero bikes are expensive, but then we have to look at the quality. But today people do not look at quality but price and features, more than anything else.

In same vein as you said that splendor is more reliable than say a super splendor then let me tell you my extreme is not as reliable than Joy. But does it make the extreme un-reliable. No, because the Joy is a legend which just goes on and on. When i bought the extreme i never expected it to be as reliable as my Joy.

Ps:- This is my 1000 th post so what better way than to post it in this thread. Also next week finally after 1.5 years Joy will go on long run as extreme's tank will be given for paint correction, and thus Joy will come with me to my work place. I am sure Joy will complete the journey in 2/3 rd amount of petrol. Will update how much petrol joy used as extreme uses 7 litres for a round trip.

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I think you are absolutely right on the people perception or mouth publicity which is the quite a big reason in any vehicles success or failure, there is nothing special in shine and still it's selling plus company highlights or exaggerate minor achievements in a way which makes a product hotcake, like honda ad is saying the most successfull 125 shine with over satisfied 30lakh customers, now every person's satisfaction level is different, i believe the biggest feature in any bike which people look is of mileage, after that cheap spares, and after that good sales service, lastly good resale value, so if you look at overall situation they want everything from a vehicle which isn't possible.

There is a huge difference between an entry level bikes like joy, cd dawn, splendor and bikes likes xtreme and hunk, one would never ride an xtreme like a splendor, so if you always riding a vehicle at it's peak then engine will suffer.

On the paint correction matter i have posted my question on cbz/xtreme/hunk thread just look at the thread and pls answer as iam also thinking of going for clear coat on my petrol tank, i will post a snap of my bike's petrol tank on the thread for better answers(although i have to decide on which thread should i post the snap.)

After knowing about these SS and glamours now i can guide one of my friend who wants to purchase glamour FI but was suspectible of Fi as even service centre guy was also discouraging him, now i will tell him to go for the vehicle and need not worry.

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As I asked about Possible to repair Foot Pump Nozzle at post number #2895 I'm able to dismantle it, Thanks to Pinaki Ji - Got the Black Rubber Tube and rectify my problem. Most of the shop at Wellington selling bundle product which contains Spring,Washer and the Rubber Tube cost around 20 to 30/-, Where I only need Rubber Tube.

Only one shop I find 'Yash Auto' Selling Rubber Tube Only 5/- piece, Picked up 2 - Maybe I'm going to collect 4-5 piece more. Shop is situated at just S.N. Bannerjee Road and Rafi Ahamed Kidwai Road crossing - It will be left hand side if someone coming from Park Street. Also they stock up good amount of foot pump too.

Below is the picture of the shop as well 2 new piece of the said rubber.

I'm able to pump up my CBR's AIR leaking rear from 10 to 35 Psi in two mins top.

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What is the cost of new foot pump, is there any specific brand or all of them are locally make, what about the pressure of the pump is the pressure enough to inflate a tyre properly.

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Got my bike serviced today. Clocked 15,000 kms in the odometer. Will update with pictures tonight.

Here are the pictures.
























I used motomax liquid polish and polished by myself, and my hand is paining due to the continuous rubbing of the polish.

Engine oil= Veedol take off 4t 20w 40. No problems in bike, so general service was only done.

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Avoid using this motomax polish regularly . It contains abrasives .

My splendor's clutch cable casing is split near the lower T , inner cable is still holding . Throttle cable casing about to split near the same spot . Front brake cable's casing also has plastic flaking off on a few spots and rust , but inner is smooth yet . Nearing 20k kms in 4 years , normal replacement time ? What are the best replacement parts , OE or else ?

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Sir, since this polish contains abrasives, if i apply it again and again, will it fade the bike's colour? or cause anything harm?. If yes, then what polish should i use? Please clarify me. I am not aware of this even a little bit. Actually, after applying this polish my bike got back the new showroom look which i have started liking so much. Your inputs will be more helpful to me. I bought this polish by seeing the fellow bikers using it here in xbhp.