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  • #2881
    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
    Oil in plug is mostly oil condensate so nothing to worry but the smoke you mention gets me thinking. White or black?
    In cold piston rins are contracted and hence oil can pass through and get burnt whereas when its hot the rins expand and seal well, this was told to me in this very thread I think for my bike and it actually true, but my bike is over 80k kms on the odo yours is not. At 18k it should not happen, what engine oil are you using

    divyansh....
    Smoke is white. Oil using is oe hero 4t premium made by tide water co.

    Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
    Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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    • #2882
      Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
      Smoke is white. Oil using is oe hero 4t premium made by tide water co.

      Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
      Shit.... white smoke no good valve stem seals, piston rings leaky valves anything csn be the culprit here.. change engine oil to 10w40 shell and check again. Oem grade is 10w30 but I have read in the thread everyone has used 20w50 also
      Wait for the experts to guide you now,
      divyansh....

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      • #2883
        Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

        Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
        Smoke is white. Bike has run 18k. Plug was changed at 14k

        Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
        Check exhaust tip for black deposits.
        Worn valve guides can cause smoke on cold starts.
        At 18k, there is hardly any chance for engine issues.

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        • #2884
          Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
          Smoke is white. Oil using is oe hero 4t premium made by tide water co.
          How much oil did you fill and how ? I guess you are overfilling engine oil . Replace spark plug cap with OE hero part of same type ( black ) .

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          • #2885
            Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
            How much oil did you fill and how ? I guess you are overfilling engine oil . Replace spark plug cap with OE hero part of same type ( black ) .
            Not me, service center guys are filling oil. After filling checked oil level and it was between max and min levels(upto max level).

            Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
            Last edited by Jith_in; 06-06-2014, 10:54 PM.
            Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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            • #2886
              Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              This is some other bike's dipstick , but should give the idea ... I'm sure you already know all this , but to eliminate any chance of over-filling ....



              Reading of oil level just when filled may not be accurate . Oil level should be measured after riding the bike sometime . Wait for 10-15 mins after you stop the engine , bike in mainstand on level ground . Unscrew the dipstick and wipe it clean with cloth , then reinsert the dipstick straight all the way it goes until it's just resting on the threads of the hole . i.e without screwing it in . Withdraw it swiftly and check the level . Wipe off the dipstick again and re-check twice . Oil level is something we don't want to make a mistake with . Excess oil is as bad as low oil , so best to keep the level between max & min at all times - anything above the min mark is okay . Top up whenever lower . Also , better not leave oil filling to service guys - at least I never trust anyone with my bike's oil - from bitter experiences .

              Check engine oil using dip stick - YouTube
              Last edited by Pinaki; 06-13-2014, 02:52 AM.

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              • #2887
                Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                This is some other bike's dipstick , but should give the idea ... I'm sure you already know all this , but to eliminate any chance of over-filling ....



                Reading of oil level just when filled may not be accurate . Oil level should be measured after riding the bike sometime . Wait for 10-15 mins after you stop the engine , bike in mainstand in level ground . Unscrew the dipstick and wipe it clean with cloth , then reinsert the dipstick straight all the way it goes until it's just resting on the threads of the hole . i.e without screwing it in . Withdraw it swiftly and check the level . Wipe off the dipstick again and re-check twice . Oil level is something we don't want to make a mistake with . Excess oil is as bad as low oil , so best to keep the level between max & min at all times - anything above the min mark is okay . Top up whenever lower . Also , better not leave oil filling to service guys - at least I never trust anyone with my bike's oil - from bitter experiences .

                Check engine oil using dip stick - YouTube
                Pinaki ji.. I have already know all these. And i am following the correct manner to check oil level. But my father trust his mechanic (since 25 years) and he will change oil or any work at his sc without even telling me. That mech has good knowledge about almost all bikes now on road. And he deals with all those. No complaints about his work till now.

                Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
                Last edited by Jith_in; 06-07-2014, 10:23 AM.
                Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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                • #2888
                  Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  Guys i need urgent input...

                  What is the factory air screw setting of passion?

                  Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
                  Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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                  • #2889
                    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Is anybody here......

                    Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
                    Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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                    • #2890
                      Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      You itself said it few weeks back it was 1.5 but it varies with each bike
                      Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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                      • #2891
                        Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                        You itself said it few weeks back it was 1.5 but it varies with each bike
                        Actually It was not factory setting. Sc guys played with it. Sorry for my bad input. Rohit brother what is your setting now?

                        Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
                        Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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                        • #2892
                          Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                          Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
                          Actually It was not factory setting. Sc guys played with it. Sorry for my bad input. Rohit brother what is your setting now?

                          Tapatalked from my Canvas A76
                          Kept at 1.5 but it is vague setting as i am getting poor mileage and top end . Tune it yourself as its best done by oneself. I have seen in my friend's splendor it has 1.7 so the setting varies .
                          Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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                          • #2893
                            Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

                            Sorry for interrupting this thread.. Facing a breakdown in my Dream Yuga. I thought it's best to consult experts from this thread.

                            In my previous post of 29 April I had mentioned about lack of compression in my Dream Yuga.. Back then the bike had automatically returned to normal..
                            Today again I'm facing the same problem. I had just started from my home when suddenly the bike stalled. Tried to start but found very little compression in kick lever. Then tried using kick by depressing clutch in 1st gear. Shocklingly the bike moved forward even though the clutch was depressed. Same happened in 2nd gear also. Tried multiple times but then gave up as I was afraid of damaging some internals in this process. That the bike is moving forward indicates that clutch is not disengaging even after depressing the lever. What could be the reason? Bike has done just 8000 km and I dont ride the clutch, so question of bust clutch plates does not arise. The bike hasn't started yet...

                            Please help...

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                            • #2894
                              Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

                              Originally posted by milindkv View Post
                              Sorry for interrupting this thread.. Facing a breakdown in my Dream Yuga. I thought it's best to consult experts from this thread.

                              In my previous post of 29 April I had mentioned about lack of compression in my Dream Yuga.. Back then the bike had automatically returned to normal..
                              Today again I'm facing the same problem. I had just started from my home when suddenly the bike stalled. Tried to start but found very little compression in kick lever. Then tried using kick by depressing clutch in 1st gear. Shocklingly the bike moved forward even though the clutch was depressed. Same happened in 2nd gear also. Tried multiple times but then gave up as I was afraid of damaging some internals in this process. That the bike is moving forward indicates that clutch is not disengaging even after depressing the lever. What could be the reason? Bike has done just 8000 km and I dont ride the clutch, so question of bust clutch plates does not arise. The bike hasn't started yet...

                              Please help...
                              First drain and replace engine oil with the recommended grade - honda 10w30
                              Then start by checking the clutch cable, if possible remove it and inspect and reinstall it with the right amount of free play adjusted. Replace if found damaged
                              Next it could be the clutch plates sticking together or the clutch springs/basket are damaged. You need to pull apart the clutch assembly and inspect, then replace the necessary parts.
                              This is best left to the ASC since your bike is done only 8000km (hope its in warranty ?! - but very unlikely you will get warranty on clutch, try your luck and be firm if its any of the clutch components - plates/springs/basket) - or a local mech you trust.
                              Also do get the compression checked for using a compression gauge - hopefully the asc has a compression gauge

                              btw, do you regularly change engine oil (say at approx 3000km at least) and is the correct oil level maintained at all times?
                              Last edited by s1d; 06-09-2014, 04:31 PM.

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                              • #2895
                                Re: Stuck clutch in Dream Yuga

                                Originally posted by s1d View Post
                                This is best left to the ASC since your bike is done only 8000km (hope its in warranty ?! - but very unlikely you will get warranty on clutch, try your luck and be firm if its any of the clutch components - plates/springs/basket) - or a local mech you trust.

                                btw, do you regularly change engine oil (say at approx 3000km at least) and is the correct oil level maintained at all times?
                                Bike is Oct 2012 model. Service (oil change, etc) is done at ASC every 4 months. Last oil change done 2000 km ago.

                                The ASC is 35 km away, local mechanic 8 km and since the bike is not starting, i"ll have to tow it. (lot of expense). Also till date ASC experience has been miserable (my bike had faulty chain kit and ASC guys struggled badly to sort it), so I'm wary of giving them my bike..

                                As mentioned in my previous posts, bike's clutch was not progressive enough and would jump on releasing, resulting in tak-tak sound from chain. Maybe this was a preliminary sign of clutch failure..??

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