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  • #76
    ya man hero honda warranty really sucks.
    as you know i have a HH joy and presently it is at 2.65 lacs km and i would like to clarify that the excuse of normal wear and tear is really lame of hero honda.
    in no way can the bearing wear out so quickly. in my bike the front wheel bearing was replaced at 1,60,000 km that too it was not jam or any wobbling but it was changed because i felt some rumbling on the handlebar else my mechanic said the bearing was good to go for another 50,000 km. and my rear wheel bearing are still the original from factory and even after 2.65 lacs their is no problem in them and still runs like new.
    i am thinking of writing a ownership experience but i am not getting time for it as i will be a very long post. may be i will copy it after writing it in notepad. i will most probably post it this month.
    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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    • #77
      good to find splendor still in demand.
      Happy to ride one of the 1st version of splendor.
      Been with us for 15 yrs.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
        i) my bike is just purchased on 01 July 2010 and run for 3600 something km .. since I have other bikes and vehicles too . This one is just for local errands . That is too early for a bearing to fail , whatever the make , nahi brother ? Yes the same words the bike manufacturers ( all of them ) say .. "wear & tear parts" , I would love to know exactly which are the non wear & tear parts in a motorcycle or a car .
        HH could have handled your case much better, looks like the dealer is not customer centric, these warranty terms are broken by some dealers to make customers happy. Also this case could have been a good lesson for OEM supplier to HH. Bearings normally exceed 6 sigma quality standards (3 defects per million).
        I am sure HH doesn't make their own bearings, HH must be sourcing them from some OEM, they just pack & label them. Same applies to other bike makers.

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        • #79
          All four OE wheel bearings on splendor plus ( mine is 01/07/2010 ) is NBC make , size 6301 , type RS ( one side rubber sealed ) . The non-sealed side is placed towards inside of hub , sealed side outside .
          Last edited by Pinaki; 05-01-2011, 12:14 AM.

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          • #80
            One of the 1st edition splendor,still with me.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by rokrrohit View Post
              One of the 1st edition splendor,still with me.
              These were the best splendors , original honda specification engine & parts . Later hero tinkered with it a bit here & there to cut manufacturing costs and conform to changing pollution norms , thereby reducing both fuel-mileage and performance of the bike . You have kept your bike very well maintained indeed , nice to see !

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              • #82
                Thank u for appreciation,feels on cloud 9.

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                • #83
                  mileage problem in new herohonda bikes

                  any member who have problem with mileage in new splendor and passions please get your valve checked.
                  because my father recently bought a splendor it is giving a mileage of 78-82 km pl. my mechanic conveyed this information to me that he has seen two passions with same problem. one was giving a mileage of 40 km pl and the idiots at hero honda svc kept on retuning till warranty lasted. then my mechanic opened the head and saw that the valve face are quite thin and he installed new valves and polished them to match them with valve seats. now the same bike is giving 68-70 km pl in city conditions. my mechanic says that many new bikes are coming with same problems until he worked on them.
                  if my ten year old and 2.65 lacs run joy and the new splendor both can give 78-82 km pl then why cannot other bikes. first try to find a good mechanic who can identify the faults.
                  Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                  • #84
                    The damned HeroHonda service centres refuses to open the caps and check /set valve clearance even , despite it being written as regular service in my free-service slips and I sign it "done" every time . Not cleaning the oil filters too because they have to open the clutch-side cover . I've given up on HeroHonda totally . but mine is giving 60-70 kmpl ... ok . Cleaned oiled refitted my splendor+ air filter today myself , much better done than the services at least ( if anyone wants a guide , ask me ) . I am still looking for an expert splendor mechanic in kolkata .. if anyone knows one near south kolkata please please buzz me .
                    Last edited by Pinaki; 05-02-2011, 04:43 PM.

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                    • #85
                      Since I am avoiding my free-services ( and warranty ) and the bike is at about 5000 kms , I serviced the air-filter myself at home . Splendor has a oiled-foam type of Air-filter , which is the proven best type of air-filter for all weather conditions ; better than any replaceable-paper-type (on newer bikes) or fabric-type after-market (K&N etc) filters . It needs to be cleaned and oiled every 2000-3000 kms , depending upon your operating conditions and how lazy you are , and should last you almost as long as your bike . You need a spare day , preferably dry & sunny before you can ride your bike again , and it is easy to do . One thing I can assure you 100% is that your regular service center will not do this as well as you will , ever .
                      Things you will need :
                      1) some kerosene in a large bowl .
                      2) dish-wash detergent & warm water in a small bucket .
                      3) a bit of fresh 20w40/20w50 motor oil or sae90 gear oil .
                      4) a clean dry sunny area afterwards .
                      5) sheets of clean newspaper and clean poly-bags .
                      6) little all-purpose lithium grease .
                      7) the standard tools that came with the bike .

                      Unlock & remove the left-side ( chain-cover side ) panel .



                      This is the Air-filter box . It has a cover attached with with five Phillips-screws & washers , as you can see . You'll find the necessary screw-driver for these in your bike's standard tool-kit itself .



                      Unscrew and remove the air-filter box cover , and set it aside . It has to be washed clean and dried before refitting again .



                      This foam-sponge covered cylinder is the air-filter itself . Carefully observe how it is attached to the filter-box and engaged on the top by those steel clips to the retaining plastic tab inside the box , as well as another similar plastic tab inside the cover you have removed earlier . You'll need to note these (will need to remember during reassembly) . Now hook a finger in that steel clip gap and gently pull the whole thing out - it's that simple .



                      Important - now note how the round hole in the air-filter box attaches to the hole on the end of the cylinder . That air-filter box hole is now left open while you do the air-filter element itself , and dirt / debris may fall into the engine air intake - solution - stuff the open hole with a piece of clean cloth or paper - safe & simple . no ?

                      In a clean working area , carefully pull-out and separate the outer black and inner yellow foam air-filter elements . Take care and be gentle , the foam can tear easily and they are oily . Should you tear or damage the foam during any step , stop right there and get a pair of new foam air-filter-elements from your HHASS , they are cheap . You should end up with three parts like this . You can see how dirty that yellow foam element looks ! Well ,means it has been doing it's job .



                      Rub clean the metal cylinder thingy with clean dry cloth . Leave no lint .
                      Dunk the two foam parts into a large bowl with little clean kerosene , wet them fully in it and squeeze ( do not wring or twist ) , you'll see the dirty oil drain out . Repeat with a little more kerosene . Do not use any other solvents other than kerosene . Again gently squeeze out as much of the kerosene as possible & set aside on clean newspaper .



                      Next step - dunk the two foam elements in warm ( not hot ! ) water and dishwash detergent ( like pril or vim or dawn or tide etc ) in a small bucket . Continue the cleaning by gently squeezing and releasing the foam elements in the water . Drain & Repeat with some fresh water and detergent .



                      Rinse in clean running water . Gently squeeze as dry as possible .



                      Set aside in a clean warm area to dry overnight , or better still hang them out on a clothes-line in the sun with pieces of string tied loosely . The foam elements must be absolutely dry before the next step .




                      I do not have photographs of the following steps as my hands were too oily and I could not operate the camera .

                      Next you have to oil these two foam elements , oily sticky but not dripping wet . It is the oil that filters the air , the foam cells mainly act as carrier for the oil . You can use fresh 20w40/20w50 engine oil or preferably 80 or 90 weight gear oil . The gear oil is what is recommended in the splendor manual and the engine oil is what the mechanics use at service . Both works fine . Never use an synthetic oil .The way to do it is to put the foam elements inside a small shopping poly-bag and pour the oil into it . Then tie the bag's mouth with a rubber band and squeeze to spread the oil thoroughly . There should be no dry spots on the foams . Do the two foams one by one in the same bag . Take out and squeeze out as much of the oil as possible ( again , squeeze , do not wring or twist the foam ), leaving the foams almost dry . Blot out excess oil with clean sheets of paper , by rolling the foam elements wrapped in it . They should not drip but be just little oily when touched .

                      Oiled and kept in polybag, ready to fit .



                      Sparingly run some white lithium grease on the mating lips of the air-filter and the foams ,as well as the mating collar of the air-filter to the air box . Wipe the air filter box clean inside out with a damp cloth .



                      Refit the yellow element on the metal cylinder by gently pulling it on all around . Then pull on the black outer element over it as it was .

                      Uncover the air intake hole inside the air box and place the air-filter on it , position the inner spring clip on the inner retaining tab and firmly push it in to refit . It should fall into place with a click , easy .Check carefully that everything fits snugly and that air cannot leak past the filter into the intake port . Now refit the air box cover and fix it with the five screws . Refit the bike's side panel . If possible let the bike stand for a day for the air-filter assembly to dry ( else the air-fuel mixture shall run a bit rich for sometime ) . Ride on .
                      I also put a label on the airbox-cover to indicate the date, kms and type of oil used , so that I remember when it's time to do it again .



                      Questions & suggestions are welcome .
                      Last edited by Pinaki; 11-25-2012, 03:55 PM. Reason: Pics updated .

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                      • #86
                        Pinaki'ji, useful info on cleaning the filter ... will use it for sure and will see the filter for first time !!
                        No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle.

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                        • #87
                          Hey bro what do you think about the new Splendor NXG's are they worth the cost and do they return similar mileage figures as the original splendor..??
                          Motorcycling Experience:
                          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                          Adios Comrades!
                          A.P. 2018

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                          • #88
                            I do not have the NXG , people who do can give you a more accurate estimate .
                            What I can tell you is that no current model splendor will give you fuel-mileage ( or pick-up even ! ) like the original one . This is because HeroHonda had to extensively mod the bike's engine to comply with BS-III norms to keep this model marketable now . Mods have been done to valvetrain and a restrictive catalytic type silencer has been added . To keep the catalytic element in the silencer safe the carburetor (keihin) has been modified badly and a direct air injection to the exhaust port had to be incorporated . When the simple and reliable workhorse Honda Cub/CT90(trail 90) engine was designed in the 1958s, they did not have air pollution laws in mind . It has suffered form all this tinkering (jugaad work) by herohonda . All current splendors give fuel mileage between 55-65 kmpl only .

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              I do not have the NXG , people who do can give you a more accurate estimate .
                              What I can tell you is that no current model splendor will give you fuel-mileage ( or pick-up even ! ) like the original one . This is because HeroHonda had to extensively mod the bike's engine to comply with BS-III norms to keep this model marketable now . Mods have been done to valvetrain and a restrictive catalytic type silencer has been added . To keep the catalytic element in the silencer safe the carburetor (keihin) has been modified badly and a direct air injection to the exhaust port had to be incorporated . When the simple and reliable workhorse Honda Cub/CT90(trail 90) engine was designed in the 1958s, they did not have air pollution laws in mind . It has suffered form all this tinkering (jugaad work) by herohonda . All current splendors give fuel mileage between 55-65 kmpl only .


                              thanks alot for the valuable info... was planning to opt for it... but guess now i'll finalize on hunk/karizma....
                              And what do u think abt the CD series... CD Dawn,Deluxe etc???
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • #90
                                CD's have the same engine as splendors/passions , much less herohonda tinkering as the low price of the bike does not make it worthwhile for them . They have better pick-up and fuel mileage overall , just because they weight less . But their cycle parts (frame welding etc) are of inferior quality than splendor/passion and rust easier , unless well cared for . Cared well , they usually cost less , perform better and last just as long . Many original CD100 / CD100SS which the owners maintained properly are still operational (and working greaaat) on their original bores . And yeah , they come with tougher shocks (adjustable) and very good chromed rim spoke wheels as they are HeroHonda's mainstay in the lucrative rural indian market .
                                ps- Before you buy a hunk/kari/cbz do take a test ride of the Honda unicorn/Yamaha Sz too.
                                Last edited by Pinaki; 05-25-2011, 10:20 PM.

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