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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostThe perimeter sensor sounds like a wise investment, will get one for myself in a couple of months!Last edited by rossiter; 01-12-2010, 07:08 PM."Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert Schuller
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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostThe perimeter sensor sounds like a wise investment, will get one for myself in a couple of months!sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.
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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostThanks, rossiter. Is that after import duties or original US pricing? Because I will pick them personally from the US/Japan in March.
EDIT: As an afterthought, I should mention that the sensitivity of the sensor needs to be just right, otherwise it is a real PITA. And I don't know what amperage the 250R has, you need to take into account that as well before loading the battery with a security system.
@Killer instinct: It isn't a must per se. It will only deter say 60% of potential vandals. I use it only when am on a tour. Parking in a lot overnight with a security guy adequately tipped off works wonders.Last edited by rossiter; 01-12-2010, 07:19 PM."Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert Schuller
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Guys..HELP! My bike is getting into false neutrals ...typically between 4th and 5th gear..any body else facing the issue? I am long way off from the run in period (just done 300 km)...BTW during run-in is it ok to keep the engine rpm constant for an extended period of time? (the 4k limit i.e. )
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Originally posted by gouravkatyal View PostGuys..HELP! My bike is getting into false neutrals ...typically between 4th and 5th gear..any body else facing the issue? I am long way off from the run in period (just done 300 km)...BTW during run-in is it ok to keep the engine rpm constant for an extended period of time? (the 4k limit i.e. )
During the run-in period, shift through gears every now and then while keeping it below 4-5 k rpm. That's what I did initially.
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@ten hut : i really like your post cause its quite interesting to read.
i think that the ninja is underpowered..but again.. dont we have to come to terms that it is a 250... i think it does well for that when i push it to 13k in 2nd & 3rd ..thats all i can do in mumbai traffic ..i feel its worth the money for a clean bike VS the 600 DRI fcuked piece which would cause me tremendous pain to sell & not to forget to pay the DRI !!
Originally posted by TenHut View PostFriends ! Recently there have been a series of incidents where certain some rider friends of mine have undergone unreal trauma due to plain unwillingness to follow any sort of traffic discipline by the majority of my brethren out there. Breaking your bones cause the other guy was a moron ISNT FUNNY and makes me almost wanna give up riding in India. But alas...like every other good thing out there, it is addictive.
The green goblin is being abused and is being put to an endurance test every single hour of my 28 hrs a ride in a 24 hrs day. Its hardly getting any sleep !
Tbh...I am worried that I am riding too much and riding it only at high revs. Can someone chime in and share their experience of riding a bike at high revs all the freakin time?
I find myself in need of consulting a rehabilitation centre in the near future. I have gotten addicted to the peak power output of the Ninja at 8K and 11.5K rpm. Any gear, any Speed..chug it into a gear at 11.5K rpm and momentarily you forget your own name! The linear power delivery is clearly felt ans is mind numbing ! You want that spurt of adrenaline to last longer though and this is where the Ninja fails you. The trip doesnt last very long and you are in constant search of that one HIT again that you know is not gonna come
In certain some sentences to come, I am gonna call this Ninja 250R underpowered. You may call me an idiot for calling it that right now, if you may wish ! Dont get me wrong though...the ninja is potent enough to get you big skin grafts and elephantastic bone marrow surgeries, it may even make you elligible for one of those highly funded futuristic experiments to make Bionic Humanoids ! Plainly put, it can and will get you in situations which will have you pray for the judgement day, and that it shall do with sheer speed.
In India, if you ask me, anything more than 50kmph is a potential Death ! And India is a very small playground for the Ninja. I am beginning to fathom the the utter uselessness ( if such a word ever existed ) of anything upwardly 250cc on our roads. Get me right...you sure will come accross patches where with your balls tied to your forehead you may even hit 300kmph, but more often than less, you shall be putting yourself in the way of death while hitting those marks. Its how successfully and safely you can achieve high speeds with a certainty of having a good cup of american expresso after your ride, that counts more to me than just hitting those speeds by disrespecting and ignoring all the possible consequences of attaining Inertia on our roads !!
So yeah, I dont want a Death Machine with a 1000CC bike but I wish the Ninja could give me the HIT for a longer duration than just merely teasing my innocent childish like mind by dangling the SPEED carrot in front of my eyeballs.
In the wake of the near delivery of my new Suzuki Hayabusa/Yamaha R1 ( I am not disclosing which bike yet cause there are certain ppl and I want them to keep guessing about it ), I have found myself thinking about the rational behind buying anything bigger. I dont want the Death Machine tag that the four cylinders currently carry on our roads. I want something only slightly faster. Something that will enable me to encourage this great sport of biking to my own kids...something that will guarantee that I shall survive that long!
P.S The Ninja 250R is underpowered that being my only point, the rest is just rambling !
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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostWhile I can relate to your outburst, I must point out (again) that the 250R is not overpriced by any means, though it is an expensive motorcycle. There is no 80% duty involved here - pre-VAT price is a mere Rs. 2.39 lakhs, a far cry from Rs. 4 ~ 4.5 lakhs if the Ninja 250R came the CBU way.
That makes it EQUAL to the US prices if you take the current motorcycle tax deduction scheme launched under the US stimulus package into consideration. Remember that our version is the FI one instead of the US carb, so it will cost higher than the $4000-4400 sticker price.
Bajaj clearly underestimated the demand, but I don't blame them considering the kind of market India is. It could have gone either way.
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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostIt is relative to people's expectations and personal experiences with other motorcycles. We must not forget that, for many countries, the Ninja 250R is just an entry level sportbike which combines good looks, mileage, ergonomics and rider friendliness in an affordable package. So by no stretch of imagination is this bike a 'crotch rocket', or something which will thrill you by its sudden bursts of acceleration,accompanied by a throaty exhaust growl. At lower RPM's, the bike feels like any other 180-220 cc Indian bike. So just because it looks like a 600cc sportsbike doesn't mean it will have the same muscles underneath. A Yamaha R1 is 10 lakhs more expensive than the Ninja, so what you pay for is what you get, and a relative comparison between a Ninja and supersports bike is unfair, IMHO. I see this mindset come across everywhere, even in reviews (see youtube videos by Indian auto mags), where one of the reviewers was saying that the Ninja 250R does not sound like a litre class! Lol!
I would still say anything above a 250R is a waste of money in India (for everyday riding, not track use) for average joes like us who save out of their not-so-American salaries to buy an expensive motorbike. Of course, my 'waste of money' comment does not apply to people who make that much in a month or two. In the same vein ,many of us think nothing before spending 2K on a dinner, though it will come across as wasteful spending to many in our country.
And it is not always about speed, as Rossiter rightly pointed out. You should be able to ride and park your bike with freedom, without worrying how many scratches or ripped seats you will see when you come back after watching 3 Idiots at your neighbourhood mall. And of course, the traffic sense of motorists in India is second only to Somalia - even Mexico and countries in South America are far better in that sense. You can take my word for it. And the last bastions of 'wind-in-the hair' riding zones are fast becoming 'no 2 wheeler zones'. The Mumbai-Pune expressway, Ahmedabad-Vadodara, Delhi-Gurgaon, to name a few. As regular highways turn into high speed expressway over the next few years, I fear this will become common-place.
And I agree - the 'death machine' comment was a bit harsh. Whether or not a machine is a death machine depends on who is riding it. If anything, sportsbikes are much safer, with crisp brakes, handling and failsafes like ABS in some.
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Originally posted by bluevolt View PostI've had a false neutral only once during the 1000 kms I have done so far. Shift surely and properly, and it should not happen.
During the run-in period, shift through gears every now and then while keeping it below 4-5 k rpm. That's what I did initially.
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@bluevolt: I think the carbon fibre parts look really cool. Shouldn't be an issue for you to get them from Japan.
Last edited by Sarvajit; 01-13-2010, 02:27 PM.Quench my thirst with gasoline!
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Found this on the net. Quite a nice read and pics.
MotoUSA Goes Kawasaki Ninja 250 Racing - Kawasaki Sportbike Motorcycle Review - Motorcycle USA
Steve says "Imagine riding a snake that goes anywhere it likes with the rider simply along for the ride. That should give you a good idea of how the Nina 250 behaves."
Btw has anyone been to a track on with these? I am keen to know how it handles.TVS 50 XL -> 125 XXL : TVS VICTOR GL : YAMAHA R15-S : YAMAHA FZ1n :: KTM RC 390
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Originally posted by karthik_R View Post
Steve says "Imagine riding a snake that goes anywhere it likes with the rider simply along for the ride. That should give you a good idea of how the Nina 250 behaves."
Btw has anyone been to a track on with these? I am keen to know how it handles.
the frame which appears welded below the tank(the thick bar which starts at where knee recesses are on the R15 and ends at footpegs) can be found on most sportsbikes including the R15, but not in 250R, does it affect the handling in some way? sorry for the noob question
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Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostI had a question and had posted but got no replies, hence posting again,
the frame which appears welded below the tank(the thick bar which starts at where knee recesses are on the R15 and ends at footpegs) can be found on most sportsbikes including the R15, but not in 250R, does it affect the handling in some way? sorry for the noob question
in the 250R the chassis is a diamond-style frame of thick-walled steel tubing. the engine here is an independent part not playing any role in the Chassis or the handling of the bike
it does effect the stability...but "how?". thats something i wont be able to answer.
the major point is that in the delta-box frame since the engine is a part of the chassis, it contributes to weight reduction.Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.
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