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  • Guys check the pictures of the modification of the light, the whole DC setup, including Console, pilot & back light.
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    • @Ace: Nope, from another shop near my office.

      @Renny: The HID bulb+ballast cannot run from AC of alternator man. Needs DC. Only extra wiring is for input of ballast direct from battery routed thru a switch. The problem is that this switch works even when the ignition is OFF. I need to devise a method to route it such that only if ignition is ON, the switch will work. Anyways that is phase - 2.

      @Kauria: Looks good man. I guess u can use a 55/60W on that setup. Even that should be good for those awesome TVS reflectors. Else go ahead and get urself a Bi-Xenon kit. I have that on my R15. Its 2.2K here for 6000K. A single HID bulb that moves back and forth for hi and lo beam as well. Since it needs a DC setup never bothered to do it for my RTR. This light suffices the requirement.
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      • Originally posted by kauria View Post
        Guys check the pictures of the modification of the light, the whole DC setup, including Console, pilot & back light.
        is that yours ???....we need to meet someday bhaiya(i guess you r elder than me)
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        • Originally posted by Aparajith View Post

          Has anyone sprocketted their RTRs. The stock is really bad. Its driving me crazy. I plan to go atleast 2 - 3 teeth less at the rear. Thinking of the 200's or ZMA's rear sprockets.
          I hope you not kidding here. .
          Stock is 44. You dont need Zma or p200 sprokets. TVS makes sprokets for every size that u need. Its just that it comes on various models and all are retro fits.
          You need a 43 or a 42 at the rear. If you still want something taller, go for a 41T.
          43 - comes on the early 2006 model Apache 150(best bet, but hard to source).
          42 - Comes on the Supra SS. You can get lucky at some TVS dealerships. (U generally wont find this)
          41 - Comes on the TVS Max 100R/Samurai
          40 - Comes on TVS Fiero F2
          39 - Comes on Suzuki Fiero/Shaolin.
          Pick anything that you want!
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          • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
            your piston rings are gone for sure....
            check for the oil pressure in the lines too
            That happened after a half kilometer wheelie by my friend. Its still smoking but only when it comes upto working temperature.
            Never upgrade without getting your basics RIGHT.

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            • Originally posted by Joel View Post
              I hope you not kidding here. .
              Stock is 44. You dont need Zma or p200 sprokets. TVS makes sprokets for every size that u need. Its just that it comes on various models and all are retro fits.
              You need a 43 or a 42 at the rear. If you still want something taller, go for a 41T.
              43 - comes on the early 2006 model Apache 150(best bet, but hard to source).
              42 - Comes on the Supra SS. You can get lucky at some TVS dealerships. (U generally wont find this)
              41 - Comes on the TVS Max 100R/Samurai
              40 - Comes on TVS Fiero F2
              39 - Comes on Suzuki Fiero/Shaolin.
              Pick anything that you want!
              Nope, not at all kidding. RTR comes with 44 at rear??? Am surprised.... I thought it had 42 or something. Now am thinking of MAX 100 41T or Pulsar V1 42T sprocket. Will source either of it and tell u BTW will F2's sprocket make the gearing really tall and un-rideable in a mix of city and hi-way. Moreover RTR -Fi comes with open O-ring chains, so can any damn sprocket be fixed?
              Last edited by Aparajith; 01-27-2009, 01:13 PM.
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              • Originally posted by jasmeetsinghchawla View Post
                That happened after a half kilometer wheelie by my friend. Its still smoking but only when it comes upto working temperature.

                a visible smoke is a strict no no for 4 strokers......
                get the piston rings checked as soon as possible otherwise it'll be a much more expensive process.......
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                • im facing one problem guys..............

                  when i was checking the FI system, i noticed that the fuel pipe that is going from the fuel filter to the injection unit is bent very badly, to check it more correctly i opened the tank and the moment i lifted it, it came back to the normal position..............

                  the problem is the pipe which is going to the injector unit is little lengthy, can i cut it short and then re fit it again so that it wont be bent....

                  cuz injection may be sucking the fuel but the way it is bent i dont think proper fuel supply is going to the injectiors...

                  could anybody tell me if they're having the same bent routing in their FI's........
                  The Magician"

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                  • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    a visible smoke is a strict no no for 4 strokers......
                    get the piston rings checked as soon as possible otherwise it'll be a much more expensive process.......
                    I don't think Piston rings would be available as genuine spares. They generally sell the bore kit (bore, piston & piston rings). Pls try hard outside. You might get some quality piston rings... Escorts & Usha are two such companies I know.

                    BTW, your problem can be because of the valves too.

                    Did you check the engine oil level? Did it go down? by how much in how many KMs?
                    Last edited by HydBiker; 01-27-2009, 10:03 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      im facing one problem guys..............

                      when i was checking the FI system, i noticed that the fuel pipe that is going from the fuel filter to the injection unit is bent very badly
                      the fuel flow problem on my fi was because of this extra-long pipe which was getting bent. at large throttle openings, it simply couldnt pass enough fuel to the engine. go ahead and shorten it, it will help in proper fuel delivery. since mine was an early fi i thought all the later ones would have the prob rectified. guess tvs didn't bother doing anything about it.

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                      • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                        the fuel flow problem on my fi was because of this extra-long pipe which was getting bent. at large throttle openings, it simply couldnt pass enough fuel to the engine. go ahead and shorten it, it will help in proper fuel delivery. since mine was an early fi i thought all the later ones would have the prob rectified. guess tvs didn't bother doing anything about it.

                        tvs is little short in attention to detail in the FI.....
                        The Magician"

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                        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          a visible smoke is a strict no no for 4 strokers......
                          get the piston rings checked as soon as possible otherwise it'll be a much more expensive process.......
                          I took my bike to the showroom they will replace the piston rings under warranty replacement most probably
                          Never upgrade without getting your basics RIGHT.

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                          • Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
                            Nope, not at all kidding. RTR comes with 44 at rear??? Am surprised.... I thought it had 42 or something. Now am thinking of MAX 100 41T or Pulsar V1 42T sprocket. Will source either of it and tell u BTW will F2's sprocket make the gearing really tall and un-rideable in a mix of city and hi-way. Moreover RTR -Fi comes with open O-ring chains, so can any damn sprocket be fixed?
                            I said kidding coz u asked if anyone here has tried sproketting the RTR and I've done that ages ago, u should be knowing.
                            42 of the pulsar will not be a retro fit, u will have to drill a new PCD for the sproket.
                            RTR has 44 rear. The early 2006 apache had 43T which is the best bet for the RTR. You will have the ideal balance of top-end and acceleration.
                            40 will make it way too tall.
                            Dont worry about the roller chain, the sproket pitch of the RTR old and refresh/FI is the same. Only the chain rollers vary.
                            I was running 42T on my modified RTR engine set-up and found it sufficently tall. Well thats on a set-up with 3.5bhp more, and I found 41T tall. So you might as well imagine what will happen to a stock engine.
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                            • @Joel: Of course, I know about u Sir!!! I wanted to know if anyone had done sprocketing on a non-modified stock RTR!! No drilling the sprocket jhatka for me. Then I have to worry about chain mis-alignment, uneven wear and all that nonsense. Anyways 43T it is then. I will try to get it. It came on the first Apache na..... Also what is the front teeth number? 14? Cos AFAIK the F2 made it with 13 front and 40 rear. So why cant the RTR make do with the same setup? I have a 13 teeth front with me. BTW do u have the part numbers or something? Might make my life much easier...

                              P.S: Shud have called u up first!! My mistake...
                              Last edited by Aparajith; 01-27-2009, 07:40 PM.
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                              • Guru, the Fiero/F2/Apache/RTR all have 13 in the front. Please dont conclude sir
                                Its just that the Fiero and Apache engine has a different front sproket shaft and pitch. The primary reduction of all these bikes are the same at 3.095.
                                TVS always likes to have constant valves instead of playing with too many variables and messing up things.
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