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  • Originally posted by Trigger View Post
    did anyone feel a drop in pickup after the 2nd service for FI? i got back my bike after 2nd service today and I feel like its struggling a bit.
    got my 2nd service done last weekend. i.e 3rd april...i felt as if the tyres are not free.maybe something is too tight.will get it checked.

    And as usual the problems i reported for service was

    1. *phat*... *phat* sounds.
    mechanic remarks : misfiring - spark plug cleaned.

    Current status: sound still coming as usual

    2. lot of vibration above 5k
    mechanic remarks - nut bolts ok

    Current status: since no work done. vibrations still thr.

    3. RPM meter needle points towards "low fuel" indicator.
    mechanic remarks : rpm meter not availble.
    And they didnt bother to tell me anything about this while i was making the payment.only after going through the job card details did i find out that the tacho wasnt changed. on enquiring about it the lady told me that their spares department has made a note of it ans will contact me whenever they get it.just to be double sure, i went to their spares section and checked their register and he did not have any mention of this. got this entered. and asked him how many days will it take to get the part. said should be available by 6th april. monday. its 8th and no call yet.

    dunno y i always feel my bike is better before servicing than post service.

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    • Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
      dunno y i always feel my bike is better before servicing than post service.
      Your bike has no big issues (too new), but needs personal attention from a dedicated mechanic. Come with me to Vishal TVS, Balkampet&let me ask my mechanic to set things right.
      Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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      • Originally posted by snehil View Post
        i love doin corners re.so i guess i hav to get a new tire !
        say bye to TVS and hello to zappers!!!!!!!!!!

        Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
        got my 2nd service done last weekend. i.e 3rd april...i felt as if the tyres are not free.maybe something is too tight.will get it checked..
        ur chain is tight than the normal setting.....check the slckness and re adjust it accordingly.....

        Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
        1. *phat*... *phat* sounds.
        mechanic remarks : misfiring - spark plug cleaned...
        not phat ohat but thr this constent kat kat noice from the fuel tank....the pump is makin the noice....which one is urs???? carbed or FI????

        Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
        . lot of vibration above 5k
        mechanic remarks - nut bolts ok ...
        .................. well tht's normal!!!!! remember it's RTR!!!!!!
        The Magician"

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        • Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
          dunno y i always feel my bike is better before servicing than post service.
          Join the gang buddy. the simple answer is crappy tvs service centre/mechanics

          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          .................. well tht's normal!!!!! remember it's RTR!!!!!!
          It's normal for an RTR but not for say a honda or even a hero honda ? hmm

          Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
          1. *phat*... *phat* sounds.
          misfiring is usually because of an incorrect mixture. usually too rich. depends on when the misfiring is happening. could also be because of a faulty plug
          Last edited by julianpaul; 04-09-2009, 10:07 AM.

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          • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

            It's normal for an RTR but not for say a honda or even a hero honda ? hmm
            you forgot to mention the super smooth GS150 too dude........
            The Magician"

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            • Rear Disc

              A lot has been said about the rtr rear disc. Here's my honest opinion. You don't need it.

              I ride pretty hard and fast, although i'm a very courteous road user. As in I don't ride like the bhendi bazaar crowd. Still I brake very hard and late and use the front brake close to 100%. Sometimes I touch the rear brake just to stabilize the rear if it seems to be stepping out of line. And also in corners. Point is, the drum is more than enough for the job. Take a look at the Indian RD350. Drums front and rear, although the front is a huge 180mm twin-leading job. Still it was pretty effective till about 140kmph (personal ownership experience). Now the RTR is a small, light bike with a superb front-disc. Why would you need a rear disc when you hardly use it ? add the cost and time-consuming labour of replacing pads and brake fluid. And those who say that the disc is more effective than the drum, well you're technically right, but if you notice it so much then I'm sorry to say you're just not braking the right way. Read up on taper-braking, I have also posted on this topic elsewhere in this forum.

              Don't fall for gimmics folks. Everybody and his uncle is coming out with digital this and led that just because they have to keep up with the current 'trends'. Evaluate what is really necessary before you buy.

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              • I was thinking of redesigning the rectifier part for fast charging of the battery. Any ways after enquiring to one of the best service engineer in Kolkata, he told me that RTR's magneto has two separate units for producing light and charging the battery. He also added that if i can manage the rectifier thing to support extra power it will definitely charge the battery faster, so if I want to connect the headlight i.e. a 55/60 bulb directly from battery, I have to route the light generating part of the magneto to provide extra power to rectifier. Now he also added that I may need to replace the battery with the ZMA one, although both are 9 ah battery, but ZMA battery has more power holding capacity then ours. No Idea about the same. Can u guys put some light on this new issue, of ZMA'a stronger battery, which is also smaller in size?
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                • ^^^^
                  Even I also feel the same .. but RTR FI is not here without Rear Disc ... else I'll have to go to RTR Refresh ..

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                  • Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
                    ^^^^
                    Even I also feel the same .. but RTR FI is not here without Rear Disc ... else I'll have to go to RTR Refresh ..
                    So have you zeroed in on Apache, Saurabh? I think your Which Bike? thread has not been updated since a long time!
                    Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                    • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                      Your bike has no big issues (too new), but needs personal attention from a dedicated mechanic. Come with me to Vishal TVS, Balkampet&let me ask my mechanic to set things right.
                      Hey ..thnx buddy.... will go for the third service with u thn...
                      As for now. tomorow is my holiday..will bug the susheel guys to fix these problems.
                      Actualy i have a little history with vishal tvs..while booking at my FI, i wanted to get it as fast as possilbe,so made booking at vishal. but later a friend suggested me to book at susheel as they are the distributor also.so i will gt it sooner. so got my booking at vishal cancelled.

                      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      ur chain is tight than the normal setting.....check the slckness and re adjust it accordingly.....
                      Thats a good possibility..will check it out.

                      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      not phat ohat but thr this constent kat kat noice from the fuel tank....the pump is makin the noice....which one is urs???? carbed or FI????
                      this *phat* is quite prominent sounding... kat kat is very common and i dont consider it a problem anymore .. its an FI

                      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      .................. well tht's normal!!!!! remember it's RTR!!!!!!
                      me too not expecting for any fix on the vibes now !!


                      Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                      Join the gang buddy. the simple answer is crappy tvs service centre/mechanics

                      misfiring is usually because of an incorrect mixture. usually too rich. depends on when the misfiring is happening. could also be because of a faulty plug
                      after last service i went to the svc with this prob. he jus cleaned the plug and inserted back... problem persisted..

                      i have been concentrating on the occurence of the sound... mostly happens in 3rd gear when i open throttle till about 8-9k and thn release the throttle....now when i open the throtle again *phat* * phat* [power fluctuate] and thn back to normal..

                      ^ this is one scenario...
                      Last edited by Tron05; 04-09-2009, 12:34 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                        A lot has been said about the rtr rear disc. Here's my honest opinion. You don't need it.

                        I ride pretty hard and fast, although i'm a very courteous road user. As in I don't ride like the bhendi bazaar crowd. Still I brake very hard and late and use the front brake close to 100%. Sometimes I touch the rear brake just to stabilize the rear if it seems to be stepping out of line. And also in corners. Point is, the drum is more than enough for the job. Take a look at the Indian RD350. Drums front and rear, although the front is a huge 180mm twin-leading job. Still it was pretty effective till about 140kmph (personal ownership experience). Now the RTR is a small, light bike with a superb front-disc. Why would you need a rear disc when you hardly use it ? add the cost and time-consuming labour of replacing pads and brake fluid. And those who say that the disc is more effective than the drum, well you're technically right, but if you notice it so much then I'm sorry to say you're just not braking the right way. Read up on taper-braking, I have also posted on this topic elsewhere in this forum.

                        Don't fall for gimmics folks. Everybody and his uncle is coming out with digital this and led that just because they have to keep up with the current 'trends'. Evaluate what is really necessary before you buy.
                        dude you and me may be using 98% of the front brake but thr are several out thr who do the reverse of what i said.....

                        the drum may be 180mm or 1800mm it'll be fading out after the repeated usage no doubt in tht...

                        AND C'MON MAN IF YOU THINK THT DISC REQUIRES MORE MAINTAINANCE THAN THE GOOD OL' DRUM...
                        the pads of the disc will last longer than the drum and even one need not to adjust the play evry now and thn like in the drum one has to do...

                        TVS has done a good job of not makin the rear disc bite hard cuz 90% of the people in india are not used to the rear disc and if TVS would have done tht thn tht would have turned the same way.....sayin-"TVS designed the rear brake too bad as it bites hard and prople are fallin off their bikes"

                        what TVS has done is right as rear brake best to keep the bike in line while scrapping pegs.......

                        i'll still shout to people to go buy the bike with rear disc....

                        Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
                        ^^^^
                        Even I also feel the same .. but RTR FI is not here without Rear Disc ... else I'll have to go to RTR Refresh ..
                        so you're not buying the FI cuz it has rear disc....

                        wow..............
                        The Magician"

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                        • Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
                          1. *phat*... *phat* sounds.
                          mechanic remarks : misfiring - spark plug cleaned.
                          my bike makes this sound too... it happens when i rev it to like 8k and then release the throttle... is that the case with you too?
                          Acta non verba

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                          • Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                            my bike makes this sound too... it happens when i rev it to like 8k and then release the throttle... is that the case with you too?

                            Yes!! i have the same problem... but it gets annoying when i open the throttle when it comes down to about 4k and the *phat* comes in with a power fluctuation for a split second.

                            Forgot to mention about the clutch problem i have been getting after the service...

                            Generally power release from the clutch is gradual. but after servicing, there is no power release from the clutch initially and then suddenly towards the end of the clutch release the power is released.
                            Last edited by Tron05; 04-09-2009, 01:48 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
                              Yes!! i have the same problem... but it gets annoying when i open the throttle when it comes down to about 4k and the *phat* comes in with a power fluctuation for a split second.
                              Does it happen like a small cracker exploding? I also faced the same problem on my Fiero F2 a few years back. The bike was very new then. It used to happen whenever I would go to a high speed&then come down to a low speed suddenly. Air would get locked&it would explode suddenly. If that is the same thing happening with you, then we can zero in on the SAI (Secondary Air Injection Unit). It was changed for my bike under warranty (costed somewhere around Rs.670 then)&the problem never repeated after that.
                              As for your clutch, it seems to be misaligned. Don't worry, thats a small thing-it will be rectified with the clutch lever play adjustment.
                              Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                              • Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
                                Yes!! i have the same problem... but it gets annoying when i open the throttle when it comes down to about 4k and the *phat* comes in with a power fluctuation for a split second.

                                Forgot to mention about the clutch problem i have been getting after the service...

                                Generally power release from the clutch is gradual. but after servicing, there is no power release from the clutch initially and then suddenly towards the end of the clutch release the power is released.
                                it hasnt cause any power fluctuation for me. (maybe cos i havnt been riding as hard) and i like the sound.... feels like the sound WRC cars make when they are slowing down so i was thinking this may be normal.
                                does this damage the engine in anyway?
                                Acta non verba

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