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  • Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
    I would have accepted this if he has said the same when we WAS a lead ducati.. Now that he is the LAST ducati to finish the race, I cant take this as a frank opinion on the bike...
    Read the comments below this article:

    Rossi: 'I can't ride this Ducati' - Motorcycle racing news: Moto GP - Visordown

    Except may be couple of them, see what most comments say. The Ducati is the problem right now. Obviously Rossi hasn't become a bad rider in just one or two season (I mean we are talking about Rossi here), and neither Hayden or Barbera are better riders!! Whatever ducati is doing with their motorcycle, it's just not good enough for the man. When a guy like Rossi so openly says that I cannot ride this bike. It can only mean one of the two things - either he has lost his touch or the bike is shit. Definitely Rossi hasn't lost it, say or believe whatever you want about him. It's definitely the bike.

    On another note....

    I must add here that the people who wrote the comments below the article are like us, the fans of the MAN or the sport or both. But they have definitely made some very logical points there. Also, everybody understands that Rossi has been facing a pretty younger competition for quite a while now. Even more so this year. The age slowly takes the toll as well. Having said this, when you see his hunger and enthusiasm to perform even in this situation, it's not appropriate to say that he is losing it. Every sensible man knows his limitations in the work he does, I am sure Rossi knows too. And I don't think that he is just pretending to be competitive. So unless the man himself says that he is not good enough anymore, I am not going to believe it. So till then....Ducati better give Rossi what he wants, otherwise their future is bleak in motogp considering the reputation their motorcycle is earning!
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    • Come on CRT

      I do hope the Gamble around Claiming Rule Teams pays off....it would do all of us good if we started seeing not just a full grid but a grid bursting to its seams with professional riders giving the ride of their lives to qualify...a place where heroes are discovered and legends made. So. lets all give it up for CRT's doing their bit to compete with modest budgets, raw talent and a never give up spirit....ohh..one more thing...everyone loves a David Vs Goliath...so bring it on.....

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      • No one can complain on Rossi's driving skills without that he would have not been a legend and got 9 titles it purely the bike which doesn't suit him. Even Stoner left Ducati for not giving the bike what he wants...
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        • Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
          I must add here that the people who wrote the comments below the article are like us, the fans of the MAN or the sport or both. But they have definitely made some very logical points there. Also, everybody understands that Rossi has been facing a pretty younger competition for quite a while now. Even more so this year. The age slowly takes the toll as well. Having said this, when you see his hunger and enthusiasm to perform even in this situation, it's not appropriate to say that he is losing it. Every sensible man knows his limitations in the work he does, I am sure Rossi knows too. And I don't think that he is just pretending to be competitive. So unless the man himself says that he is not good enough anymore, I am not going to believe it. So till then....Ducati better give Rossi what he wants, otherwise their future is bleak in motogp considering the reputation their motorcycle is earning!
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          • @prabhubravo: That's a nice link!

            As I said, you can believe whatever you want about Rossi. Moreover, I believe it's JB's personal opinion. He wouldn't say this if Rossi would again rides a Yamaha or a Honda, because then the results will be different. I say that Rossi still has atleast 1 championship title left in him.

            If Rossi's performance would have went this down while he was still with Yamaha then I could have agreed. But I guess we'll never know that now
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            • I remember reading an interview of Rossi last year, he said that even if his bike was competitive he would still find it very hard to keep up with Lorenzo and Stoner. And he would be fighting Pedrosa and Spies.

              Whether that was just another of his mind games I don't know. Whether that was an admission of having past his prime, I don't know. But it appeared that he realized that he was not going to have it easy.

              Obviously a rider of his stature does not lose his talent in a season or two. But what about being mentally bombarded. That does take its toll.

              On the other hand, new front tires will be used from Jerez onwards. It will be a softer compound. So maybe that might help him get the front end feel back. Something that has been his biggest complaint.

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              • i don't think a new set of tyres or a new front tyre will change the fortunes of rossi+ducati, coz it will be for all. all the riders will be using it, so whatever benefit it will offer, will be available to all.

                ok, so ducati is not a good enough bike to win a motogp, but then why hayden is ahead of rossi??? i really wanna know...

                maybe both the things are happening at the same time--
                • ducati being a not so good bike and also not able to improve much.
                • rossi ageing.
                why not they steal a honda bike and paint it as ducati.


                when is the next race?
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                • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                  i don't think a new set of tyres or a new front tyre will change the fortunes of rossi+ducati, coz it will be for all. all the riders will be using it, so whatever benefit it will offer, will be available to all.

                  ok, so ducati is not a good enough bike to win a motogp, but then why hayden is ahead of rossi??? i really wanna know...

                  maybe both the things are happening at the same time--
                  • ducati being a not so good bike and also not able to improve much.
                  • rossi ageing.
                  why not they steal a honda bike and paint it as ducati.


                  when is the next race?
                  Your first statement is the answer to your question. Hayden is fine with controlling his bike with the rear. He can muscle his way round the track, with the rear slipping and sliding around. Rossi likes to steer the bike with the front. Right now, no front end grip. With the new soft front. Hopefully better front end grip.

                  Yes everyone will benefit, but not everyone has front end problems. Only Stoner and Rossi. Atleast no one else has complained.

                  Oh and btw both Marquez and Luthi have been given "Yellow Cards" for the racing incident
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                  • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                    ok, so ducati is not a good enough bike to win a motogp, but then why hayden is ahead of rossi??? i really wanna know...


                    maybe both the things are happening at the same time--
                    • ducati being a not so good bike and also not able to improve much.
                    • rossi ageing.

                    why not they steal a honda bike and paint it as ducati.


                    when is the next race?

                    Hayden ,Rossi and Barbera were almost setting same lap times. PLus Rossi went off the track thats another 5 secs from the overall times.




                    I think none of the Ducatis hit the 1.56 mark.

                    Its kinda gud to know Bike's still has some prob.

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                    Hayden was quicker most of the times :|
                    Last edited by Braumabull; 04-11-2012, 09:07 PM.
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                    • i missed the first race and am gonna miss next one too..courtsey ..my cable operator.......can anyone record the next race and put up on youtube or something..
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                      • Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

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                        Hayden was quicker most of the times :|
                        Hayden was not only quicker most of the time. But also what must be taken into account is that Rossi was riding alone on an empty track for most of the race. While Hayden was busy battling it out with the Bautista, Barbera and Bradl, and also Spies earlier on. All these scraps surely would have slowed him down.

                        So yes, Hayden was easily much faster than Rossi in this race. Let the 5 second gap between the two not fool us.
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                        • Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                          Obviously a rider of his stature does not lose his talent in a season or two. But what about being mentally bombarded. That does take its toll.
                          +1. Remember, 100th century is the most difficult one to hit than the 99 centuries and that does not take a true champion from his throne.
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                          • I refrained myself from making any comment here on how the MotoGP turned out in Qatar. Its a sorry state to see a figure because of whom you watch MotoGP finishes 10th or is last among the factory prototypes.
                            I hated Rossi the very day when he announced his move to Ducati. To me, Rossi and M1 were eternal. I asked this question here few months ago - 'How things would be, if Rossi had spoken to heads at Suzuki?'. If Bautista could fix the bike, this guy would have been on the rostrum every time, definitely. Sadly though, he had other thoughts. I don't know how his career will be from on!

                            Well, JLo is clinical in his approach. Fantastic rider. Good that he's talking less these days. Stoner has a lot to do to defend his title this season. Yammies are bloody fast. But, Casey is a maniac. Interesting battle on cards nevertheless #46 is not among the prime runners.

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                            • Originally posted by Makky View Post
                              I refrained myself from making any comment here on how the MotoGP turned out in Qatar. Its a sorry state to see a figure because of whom you watch MotoGP finishes 10th or is last among the factory prototypes.
                              I hated Rossi the very day when he announced his move to Ducati. To me, Rossi and M1 were eternal. I asked this question here few months ago - 'How things would be, if Rossi had spoken to heads at Suzuki?'. If Bautista could fix the bike, this guy would have been on the rostrum every time, definitely. Sadly though, he had other thoughts. I don't know how his career will be from on!

                              Well, JLo is clinical in his approach. Fantastic rider. Good that he's talking less these days. Stoner has a lot to do to defend his title this season. Yammies are bloody fast. But, Casey is a maniac. Interesting battle on cards nevertheless #46 is not among the prime runners.

                              Yes you are right M1 is the bike which was designed for Rossi taking his driving style as a prime factor because M1 always don't boast on power what makes it a true champion is its handling character, late braking and corner entry. Later the cross plane crankshaft technology which was Rossi's back brain added more to the stability of M1's in the corners.....

                              The difference in Rossi's result is Yamaha designed a bike for Rossi
                              But Ducati wants Rossi to adopt their bike
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                              • Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                                Hayden was not only quicker most of the time. But also what must be taken into account is that Rossi was riding alone on an empty track for most of the race. While Hayden was busy battling it out with the Bautista, Barbera and Bradl, and also Spies earlier on. All these scraps surely would have slowed him down.

                                So yes, Hayden was easily much faster than Rossi in this race. Let the 5 second gap between the two not fool us.

                                Nice observation.
                                I know why I didnt notice that .

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                                Last edited by Braumabull; 04-12-2012, 11:03 PM.
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