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**Dinesh.P** · 05-01-2012, 01:57 AM

Stoner is the rider who will go hard on the gas like none in the motogp history. This driving style made him a very successful rider in a bike which has poor handling in the grid Ducati. Fantastic ride from Cal with the satellite Yamaha almost hunted the factory Honda.

Spies is affecting the overall result of the Yamaha's hope he will bounce but if he doesn't we can see either cal or Dovi in the factory squad. The phase of Cal really astonished that to in a wet race.....

**Dinesh.P** · 05-01-2012, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Boon View Post

Seems like the epic battle between Stoner and Lorenzo will continue throughout the season. Amazing race by Cal Crutchlow

Lorenzo- I'm happy with this second place on Jerez. I have tried to win but Casey was very strong and the front tire did not give me much security. We are still leaders!

Go Lorenzo!!! Go Yamaha!!!

Yes the Tyre selection was a problem for Lorenzo because the front Tyre was a trump card in the race.
But he showed his potential to get stoner

More we can except from estoril

**prabhubravo** · 05-01-2012, 10:18 AM

How light it wud get if Hayden says, he wants a wall between the garages

barbera was upset with Rossi's pass. Rossi came in too hot that barbera had to pull back his bike. Something of 'typical' Rossi thing. Sure if barbera did it to Rossi, there wud ve been so much media flare.

Stoner has to get his arm pump fixed, Lorenzo and Ped will be too hot for stoner, knowing that Stoner will get his arm pump at the end. So wait and pounce

**The Monk** · 05-01-2012, 02:28 PM

Hayden will never do that. He is too much of a professional. Team guy.

Barbera did it to Rossi in Qatar, Rossi returned the favour

No media flare in Qatar or Jerez.

@ Dinesh Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Hayden and Dovi all took the soft compound tire for the front. Only Cal took the harder front. And among all of them only Stoner and Pedrosa were going faster at the end of the race on the soft front. Others were slowing down. Oh and btw this was not a wet race!

**Braumabull** · 05-01-2012, 03:22 PM

Barbera and Bautista have something against Italians I guess. Right from the 250 class.

Last year bautista was pushing himself to Limit. and This year Barbera. Both had intentions only to beat Rossi.(Childhood dream). Like Rossi said, Position didnt matter.

Once Rossi and Ducati gel in. Barbera and Bautista will not have to worry about it. He would be fighting for the front

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Yeah Rossi,Last year at Laguna. Should have let Hayden pass

(This post will be deleted once things dont work as I thought it would, so please dont rely with my post with quotes.

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Wall woudnt matter now. They got the base setup and the direction, They will work accordingly. Too late for wall . (kiddin)

**Abhii46** · 05-01-2012, 10:30 PM

Just wanted to confirm one thing, the wall was because they were using different tires(manufacturer) or because Rossi did not wanted to share any data with Lorenzo?

**abhimanyu31** · 05-02-2012, 03:12 AM

^^^ Rossi has never liked sharing data with anyone. Even his good friend Colin Edwards has gone on record to as much by indicating that being a team mate to Rossi is a potential carrier destroyer. The wall did come up because of the different makes of tyres being used by the team for both the riders, however, it was also a convineant arrangement for Rossi, which is why the wall stayed up even after the championship switched to single tyre format. If the wall was just so that proprietary information of different tyre makes is insulated from each other's engineers, then after the format was switched to single make tyres, the wall should have become redundant and moot. But it didn't.

**princesirohi** · 05-02-2012, 04:43 PM

well, hayden qualified in top 3, and then for almost 1/3rd of the race, he held his position. he even took back his position which was slipped in starting moments. and then held on to it till those moments.

so that clearly showed that his setup is working. this theory can also be proved in next race, if he is able to qualify again in top 3 or top 5 and is able to put up similar spirited performance, even for a while.

so if his set up is working, may be rossi can borrow his setup and then try?

who knows what will happen. just a ray of hope.

**The Monk** · 05-02-2012, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

well, hayden qualified in top 3, and then for almost 1/3rd of the race, he held his position. he even took back his position which was slipped in starting moments. and then held on to it till those moments.

so that clearly showed that his setup is working. this theory can also be proved in next race, if he is able to qualify again in top 3 or top 5 and is able to put up similar spirited performance, even for a while.

so if his set up is working, may be rossi can borrow his setup and then try?

who knows what will happen. just a ray of hope.

Rossi used Hayden's setup in Jerez, tweaked it a bit, for the race. But since he had not used this setup before the race, he was going blind into the race. Took him a few laps to get into a rhythm. Once he got into the flow of things he started churning out better lap times and reduced the gap to Hayden considerably.

That is why Rossi was so upbeat after the race, even with such a low down position.

**Makky** · 05-02-2012, 09:00 PM

Setting up a race bike isn't a joke.

One cannot just 'copy and paste' the set up and try it for a different rider even though, he rides the same bike and belongs to the same team!

Each rider needs a particular set up for his bike which goes to the micro levels. However, in a broad aspect, two machines from the same team can have 'similar' set up.

Here 're videos to make things understand and these 're just about the foot and hand controls:

Sportbike Wrench- Adjusting Foot Controls - YouTube

Sportbike Wrench- Hand Control Adjustability

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRNI9OZTzo

http://onthethrottle.tv/Every motorcycle has adjustable hand controls yet few riders take the time to explore these options. Dave Moss walks us through the a...

This is an insight to the world of setting up a race machine for club races or Yamaha/Gixxer cups or perhaps, AMA. Only gods knows what MotoGP teams are up to!

**R-series** · 05-03-2012, 03:08 AM

^^Oh I have quite an idea about the setup. I when through 5 days, 2hrs everyday just to get the right setup of the rear sets on my Ninja 250R. Though assembling them was a piece of cake, setting it to what I want took those 5 days. I can just image the level of expertise the MotoGP teams have and what they go through.

In my case I was the rider and the mechanic, it becomes more difficult when you need to setup the machine according to someone else's requirements

**Dinesh.P** · 05-03-2012, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Hayden will never do that. He is too much of a professional. Team guy.

Barbera did it to Rossi in Qatar, Rossi returned the favour

No media flare in Qatar or Jerez.

@ Dinesh Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Hayden and Dovi all took the soft compound tire for the front. Only Cal took the harder front. And among all of them only Stoner and Pedrosa were going faster at the end of the race on the soft front. Others were slowing down. Oh and btw this was not a wet race!

Yes but after the race Lorenzo came down and saw his bike's front tyre and that shows he is not comfortable with the front end so the extra bit of push towards the end of the race to beat Stoner was not possible for Lorenzo.....

**kaynmantis** · 05-03-2012, 01:19 PM

Difficult to say where Ducati stands from this race as there were wet patches. Possibly on a perfect dry track, the Ducatis could be further back.

Cal Crutchlow. Man where did that came from. Brilliant show. Is it the unpredictable track condition or his brilliance? We'll see. Someone to watch out.

Stoner's still the man to beat. Lorenzo being his biggest threat. I'm Stoner fan, though I have great respect for Lorenzo, that guy can ride. In fact, I feel, even if Rossi was still riding for Yamaha, I think Lorenzo would be beating him fair and square. Not taking away Rossi's achievement or talent. It simply means, Rossi may have passed his peak level. Its inevitable.

Surprised by Ben spies performance so far. Thought there was much more in him that whats been shown.

**Braumabull** · 05-03-2012, 10:18 PM

That leaves many questions unanswered, Doesn't it? Rossi left Yamaha one year soon according to what I feel.

Stoner moves to Ducati beats Rossi. Rossi beats him back the following year, and the year after that. Lorenzo too got beaten by Rossi having the same machinery(Dunno if its true wat I heard or read rather, Bikes werent equal).

2010, Rossi won the first race. Jorge wins the following two races.
Then crash at mugello

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But then, he beats Lorenzo for the third place and he wins at sepang. So he still beats Lorenzo.

So Its kind of hard to say that Rossi's passed his peak (just yet).

If things work out with Ducati.

. hope they do. we'd get more 'Rossi battles' .......

**R-series** · 05-04-2012, 12:57 AM

and talking about bikes being equal, here's what Nakamoto (HRC) had to say:

Nakamoto: Rossi in HRC? Impossibile

if your not lucky enough and the website comes in Italian, you can open it on chrome and translate when prompted

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