From what I understand. Lorenzo debuted in 2008 as a rookie in motogp class as Rossi's mate. He won one race that year.
In his second year only, Lorenzo won 4 races against 6 of Rossi.
In the third year (2010) he won 9 races against 2 of Rossi, to become champ.

One may reflect upon Rossi's crash in 2010. However Lorenzo's 2008 - 2009 season was also plagued with lots of crashes and broken bones.

Rossi, during his peak was unbeatable. However age will soon catch up. From the perspective of age and stats, it seems Lorenzo was on the rise and Rossi .. painful as may be ... was on a decline. And the trend seems to continue.

Btw, upto 2010, I was a fan of Rossi. From 2011 onwards, it's Stoner.

btw..I still hate his (HRC rider's) attitude

Btw, Rossi's attitude or whatever, I'll forever be his loyal fan. Doesn't matter how he retires out of this sport, he is the most influential sports person of our generation in this sport of two wheels and nobody will ever match his persona. And currently, there's no one who is a better ambassador of MotoGP than Rossi himself irrespective of his performance.

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true. but i don't believe this is the case with VR. not yet at least.

to say that Rossi's current issues have to do with him "age catching up" wouldn't really be accurate.

he returned to Sachsenring in July 2010 after what seemed like a career ending injury... and finished the race 5th.

he was then on the podium 7 out of 11 times for the rest of his year...
including the showdown with Lorenzo in Malaysia where he won (stealing the limelight from jLo and not giving him a chance to enjoy his championship win).

then he got on the Duc in 2011... and hasn't done better than 1 podium in last 19 races.
bah! unless he aged from 31 to 40 overnight... i'm pretty sure it's JUST the Duc.

also... if you think about it... if VR hadn't had that injury in 2010...
he would've prolly won the championship. yes.

coz that was the first year jLo "magically" NEVER crashed, not even once thru the whole season.
and that was a milestone he hadn't achieved from the start of his career.

Lorenzo is a phenomenal rider. and i'm rooting from him this year.
but he definitely had Rossi to thank for his '10 championship.

i am a strong believer of the greatness of Valentino Rossi...
but as far as him sorting the issues with the Ducati, i don't see it happening.

Team VR for 2013!

"setting up a bike" and "bike's setup" are little bit different things.

setting up a bike - means u adjust footpegs and foot operated levers and hand operated levers and other similar things to a position rider is most comfortable at.

bikes set up- means adjusting more crucial things like those that effext the performance of bike like handling etc by adjusting certain things like suspension- preload, compression & rebound. etc.

this is what I think.

Stoner is a very good rider but it is difficult to beat Rossi in a good machine. Rossi will never give up when he chases a rider he will push to the extreme....

I think I see a Stoner fan amongst the evergreen fans of the evergreen Legend . Stoner is a good rider and with the Honda he is really fast but I still feel there is only one rider who can beat him fair and square and that too on his best day and you all know who that is. Remember rossi on that day (Laguna Seca) had a slower bike but still managed to win and from then on it was more of a 'completing formalities' type of races where Stoner couldn't do anything to stop him from taking the title. That kind of hardcore racing or I would say old stlye racing pedrosa and lorenzo lack, without which noone will be able to stop Stoner from taking his 3rd crown this year. With the Yamaha Lorenzo has got this season he has to win this to prove he is a worthy chapion and I want him to win. As for Rossi, age is not at all a factor and it is just about setting few things right (I know it is taking so much time, but still.....) I still believe he is gonna come back and prove so many people around the globe wrong. Patiently waiting for that day to come. He is SIMPLY THE BEST !
A Rossi fan forever

Foot and hand controls were just the tip of the iceberg. Thought, I mentioned it.
Setting up a bike/Bike set up: I don't see a difference!

Woah!

FP 1 Standings:

1. Spies - 1'40"813
2. Hayden - 1'41"086
3. Rossi - 1'41"512
4. Stoner - 1'41"943
5. Bautista -1'42"230
...
8. Pedrosa - 1'43"078
Lorenzo didnt race.


Top three are shocking...
Is he(3rd one ) coming back to the podium? hope so... mazza ane waala hai...
Seems Hayden improved Rossi

Estoril GP FP1



Yes, page 46 it is!

Setting up a bike - means working on the bike to attain particular result.

Bike set up - means, the result of setting up a bike.

Don't take me too seriously. But it does kind of make sense. No?

I think, what you said is true for most riders.

Food for thought:
Rossi on Yamaha and Stoner on Ducati.
Stoner on Honda and Rossi on Ducati.



Unless some dramatic incidents occurs, this year will see another Stoner vs Lorenzo battle. To add to my burden, its not only Lorenzo, this year's Yamaha is scary.

any proves on the part inbold?? May be hp figures of duc and yamaha?

hell yes rossi giving good a fight in FP2

2008 Leguna Seca, Rossi did have a slower bike.

Forget the bhp (cos that's just a small part of a fast bike) , Stoner always over took Rossi on the main straight. Moreover Stoner also qualified 1st (0.442) seconds ahead of Rossi.

In QP Stoner did a top speed of 262.8kmph, while the doctor's M1 was only able to hit 259.4kmph.
source -

and I remember Rossi's words - "I'll need a gun to stop Stoner". And he wasn't kidding, stoner was fast enough that if he had fled, there was not catching up from behind.

@Satellite Kid..

You are right
Most of them do watch motoGp. Rossi being the main reason. Cuz his victories are sweeter than any one else. (I dunno the exact word).


Lorenzo had many crashes. But my point he races with injury. I wanted say that he missed four races. Thats 100 points flat.
Like I said, things would have been different if not for the crash. But we'll never know.
There are many others who had career ending crashes. Lot of championships could have been different. I am just glad he was back sooner than expected and hope he gets great results.


P.S. Rossi is .9 secs from the leader. He's closed the gap a bit. But Lap record is 1m 35.715, and Rossi's around 1.38 I guess



(I 'm a stoner fan too, but post race. I have some (or lot of them) video for his interview and stuffs)