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**niranjanvaidya** · 10-03-2010, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by haxor View Post

As I read somewhere that Air Cooled Engines are suitable in India than Liquid cooled.
Air Cooled system works even if the bike is standstill,whereas the Liquid Cooled System works when Bike is in motion.

???

???
did you mean it the other way?

**abhichotu.abhi** · 10-03-2010, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

With forged pistons and all, yes it's possible. But then, this I assume is Mahindra's first attempt at making a motorcycle engine. BTW, have you calculated the rpm at 20 mps?

About the silencer, I guess its 1 per exhaust valve.

Its Mahindra's 1st attempt, not Engines Engg.. I hope they have done there part of designing a well calibrated engine having Italian DNA.

**RogueRider** · 10-04-2010, 01:25 AM

Lol

Originally posted by tejasmph View Post

what mahindra also forgot is that the

mojo

name is also given to a dog in the transformers movie.

when I look at the bike and hear it's name..I'm reminded of MojoJojo the evil cartoon character

**vinfreak** · 10-04-2010, 03:48 AM

@Photugraphers: The pics are good..but the watermarks are a spoiler. I do understand the need to copyright them but shouldn't spoil the pic on a whole. Would be great f you can address this.

**surya220** · 10-04-2010, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

How would us noobs have any idea about the amount of heat generated by IC engines? Of course not.

I suppose (based on your kind words) a 300cc single generates more heat than the Ducati 796 L-twin which is air-cooled, by the way.

I never had any idea that you ACTUALLY rode a Ducati 796 L-Twin in INDIAN CITY TRAFFIC.. Sorry to have bruised your ego.. I always comment based on MY EXPERIENCE.. Not Google or Wikipedia.. Cheers mate..

Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post

in indian conditions over heating is a factor. who told you only p220 overheats. in heavy traffic even my r15 heats up considerably. but it never loses performance due to heating up. its an arguable topic. lets drop it.
about test ride. no one gave the r15 for a test ride before i bought it. but the brand name yamaha was reassuring enough to take the risk of buying it with out a test ride. but mahindra should not forget that this is their first product and they should know how to handle customers instead of acting arrogantly.

+1, Mahindra is not Yamaha..

**nox2505** · 10-04-2010, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Old Fox View Post

Lots of apparent contradictions in the engine design if the given specs are anything to go by.

#1 Over-square dimensions are favored for higher 'red-line' rpm's. This one gets limited at a relatively tame 8500.

#2 Four-valve head favored for freer breathing which again indicates that higher peak rpm's are targeted whereas it is not so.

#3 Peak torque claimed at 7000 rpm. Not low enough to justify the design aim of the engine to be a low-end performer.

#4 Piston speeds < 18 m/sec. Again pointing towards a low state of tune while the decided over-square points towards a targeted high strung design.

I wonder if such contradictions point towards design issues with the engine if it were to be used at its full potential. Its like the designers started with say a targeted 30 PS but encountered problems, either thermal or with machine dynamics (I suspect the latter as they are the most difficult to pin-point and eliminate), and so deliberately de-tuned it for a lower bhp output and a lower peak rpm. Just guessing but the history of engine development is littered with such instances.

Ohhhhhh. You flicked my words. thats the exact thing i wanted to say.

**joshzma225** · 10-04-2010, 09:31 AM

Hi I guess I'm gonna be posting after 5 long years but I really just wanted to clarify the category of motorcycle the Mojo hails from, it may also help us understand the design cues of this bike...This is based on the hypermotard category of motorcycling similar to a powerful dirtbike suited for offroad use, just street friendly with the help of adding slicks or in our case (fortunately)...Pirelli sport demons and Personally i Like the Tank its different and ever since i rode my friends Ducati Hypermotard (yeah i know the LUCKY DOG!!!) I've unknowingly been wishing for a hyoermotard and I will definitely be one of the few people buying this bike rather taking a chance on it...coz its just got all the right stuff right down from the inverted forks the dual exhaust nice medium compound fat tires, and its ducati energia EFI system, I guess all of this won me over, the only let down with the ninja 250r was.....no Digital SPEEDO I mean cmon!!!! and no inverted front forks!!!! I really thought it'd atleast have that, but then again I'm very particular about these minor details, but then again I imagine these minor details would Add MAJOR difference to handling!!! My last ride was a karizma it was almost 5 years old but got stolen in april this year :-(

**Hyperion** · 10-04-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by surya220 View Post

I never had any idea that you ACTUALLY rode a Ducati 796 L-Twin in INDIAN CITY TRAFFIC.. Sorry to have bruised your ego.. I always comment based on MY EXPERIENCE.. Not Google or Wikipedia.. Cheers mate..

+1, Mahindra is not Yamaha..

And that was the point to begin with. The rest of your post is not worth responding to.

**Technician** · 10-04-2010, 01:27 PM

The bike is redlines at 8.5 k rpm but tacho markings exist till 10k rpm.

The engine definitely seems to be a road-going engine and not the one which can be used in a competition like dirt bike arena. When the engine is to be procured from Italy (Sadly ?), one would like to have an engine which would go on till 1 lakh kms.

No stock racing single cylinder engine with 60+ mm stroke rev upto 12-13k rpm. V-twins also packs after 10500 rpm.

CRF 150R, Ninja 250, etc. all have 45 mm of stroke or so. Even litre class is limited to 55-56mm stroke.

Otherwise, till 8.5k rpm, it seems to have more power than even Ninja. Of course, Ninja pilot can call all the horses to the task by engaging afterburner at 12k rpm to overtake a maniac MoJo pilot but Mojo pilot still would have fun till 8.5 k rpm. Waiting for a comparo of the both.

**Krishna Ragunathan** · 10-04-2010, 04:29 PM

My 1st post on XBHP!

This ride seems to be a good one! Apart from the contradictions in the engine, it looks like a super moto or even a cafe racer, is huge, got features unknown to the everyday Indian biker. I know I'm getting this baby, already dream about me riding my Mojo. N the name's good, but would have preffered the Diablo more(Sounds Better).

**nin** · 10-04-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post

Hi I guess I'm gonna be posting after 5 long years but I really just wanted to clarify the category of motorcycle the Mojo hails from, it may also help us understand the design cues of this bike...This is based on the hypermotard category of motorcycling similar to a powerful dirtbike suited for offroad use, just street friendly with the help of adding slicks or in our case (fortunately)...Pirelli sport demons and Personally i Like the Tank its different and ever since i rode my friends Ducati Hypermotard (yeah i know the LUCKY DOG!!!) I've unknowingly been wishing for a hyoermotard and I will definitely be one of the few people buying this bike rather taking a chance on it...coz its just got all the right stuff right down from the inverted forks the dual exhaust nice medium compound fat tires, and its ducati energia EFI system, I guess all of this won me over, the only let down with the ninja 250r was.....no Digital SPEEDO I mean cmon!!!! and no inverted front forks!!!! I really thought it'd atleast have that, but then again I'm very particular about these minor details, but then again I imagine these minor details would Add MAJOR difference to handling!!! My last ride was a karizma it was almost 5 years old but got stolen in april this year :-(

welcome back !

so time to buy the MOJO ??

**Technician** · 10-04-2010, 04:40 PM

@Krishna Ragunathan - Welcome to the Fourm. And Yeah, this name MoJo sounds funky to me. I don't care about others. At least, this seems to be better than Alba, Libero, Extreme, Jive, Exceed, NXT, +, Pro and so on.

**riazmomin** · 10-04-2010, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Krishna Ragunathan View Post

This ride seems to be a good one! Apart from the contradictions in the engine, it looks like a super moto or even a cafe racer, is huge, got features unknown to the everyday Indian biker. I know I'm getting this baby, already dream about me riding my Mojo. N the name's good, but would have preffered the Diablo more(Sounds Better).

Diablo is reserved for faired version of Mojo

**nin** · 10-04-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by riazmomin View Post

Diablo is reserved for faired version of Mojo

i would love to see that happen....DIABLO even sounds better !!

**yellowspunk** · 10-04-2010, 04:55 PM

thank you for the pictures and the info MG !!
now waiting for the first impression. this could possibly be my next bike !!!

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