only if it has 22 bhp which seems impossible fr a sohc engine
frm wat it has right nw it can only come closer to cbr150r

Did you ever imagined before R15 launched that a 150cc engine can produce around 17 bhp? So...no one can say what engineers can do.....it's just a guess/speculation.

For 22 bhp, it requires almost 2500 rpm more, given the same capacity and torque.

Can they really make the R15 rev-limited to 12000 rpm, while delivering maximum power @ 11,000 rpm? I don't think so. This is even beyond R125's revving. A bit too much for a single cylinder 150cc.
Tuning can't replace displacement. In fact, nothing can.

Although, journos have claimed that it will compete with the CBR, I take them with a pinch of salt. Anyways, I heard that booking costs Rs. 10,000. Let's see what it would be...

Just to add my two cents to this thread.

A stock R15 cant compete with the CBR in a straight line. CBR has an adequate low-end but strong mid-range performance which manages to stay till peak revs. Stock R15 lacks down low but makes up for with good mid-topend performance and superior handling. The only competition to the CBR purely in terms of outright performance (and those that exceed it) are the few souped up Joel'd R15s, maybe some P220s on our forum and stock Ninja.

22 BHP from 150cc and 12000 rev ceiling. I guess you guys need a bit of reality. Yamaha is not going to go out of their way to please you. You need that much power there are after market solution providers readily available with their list of mods which will even let you rev up to almost 14000 RPM and nearly 30 BHP if that's what it takes to please you.

To add to the speculation from what little I know, the new bike is expected to have been tuned (internally and electronically) for better low end torque and considering the external changes; fatter tyres, possibly a different suspension it may be a detriment to the bike's performance and handling. For those expecting a fast and high revving, powerful 150cc, sharp handling avatar in the new R15 you might be expecting too much. Ofcourse I could be wrong

Anway all those who cribbed about the good looks of the bike or rather lack of it; thin tyres, split seats etc your friendly marketing department at Yamaha have listened to the majority and have probably managed to worsen an excellent out-of-the-box street-track package.

I agree with your earlier post. The new R15 might just be a marginal improvement over the earlier one in terms of power.
Handling-wise, I have the same concern as you...the zillions of wannabe posers who wrote off/ridiculed the R15 just because "peeche ka tyre itna chotta hai...moped ka lagta hai", might have just convinced Yamaha to bring on all show no go!
As for me, as an past owner of the R15, I would just want it to have a little more poke off the line and slightly better stance for people over 5'10". Would a seven speed gearbox be asking for much?

Amen.
People speak too soon.
Before the launch of first r15, people were very very sure that it would be 21bhp, then when it turned out to be 17bhp, people said it was disappointment and cursed yamaha and praised bajaj.
Then they realized what a gem the r15 truly was, they cursed bajaj and praised Yamaha(YES! Yamaha).
Now again, the same story.

eagerly waiting for this

If this is true, it is a repeat of what happened in 2008.
Only this time the 'other' bike is the CBR.

It would be logically idiotic for Yamaha to do SO many internal changes from a existing 'hot' product.

Theres some serious wishes here, and besides being wishes they are the perfect recipe to cause disappointment when the real product is launched.


Sit back and ask yourself:
Isnt the current Yamaha R15 with its current level of handling & performance and these looks in the same price a bad product? I dont think so


Now ask yourself why Yamaha took such a long while to test the bike! and it gets confusing! The existing R15 is a brilliant product and the new version will have to live upto its name. I doubt Yamaha would alter its handling or performance to satisfy the 'posers'

seems like u all are r jealous wid cbr

JUST MY THOUGHT<
and not saying bec i own cbr or something else.

@All: I am posting this based on inputs from one of our Pune xBhpians who claims he has seen the bike in Wakdewadi Pune showroom on 2nd floor.
Note that he spoke to the Manager&did not start/ride the bike.

1. The bike is 150cc, 22ps, redline starts at 12.5K RPM, going all the way till 14.5K RPM.

2. The bike has also been tuned for low end torque, in addition to having a higher powerband.

3. Side fairing is heavier than current one.

4. Handle rake is increased for comfort on touring.

5. Will easily go upto 160 on the speedo as claimed by company.

6. New silencer, ECU, almost all internals changed.

7. Current bike parts continue to be available.

If this is true, it is a repeat of what happened in 2008.
Only this time the 'other' bike is the CBR.

Please do not ask me any questions-I am just posting my talk with him&he will himself clarify if he feels like.

It would be logically idiotic for Yamaha to do SO many internal changes from a existing 'hot' product.


Sit back and ask yourself:
Isnt the current Yamaha R15 with its current level of handling & performance and these looks in the same price a bad product? I dont think so


Now ask yourself why Yamaha took such a long while to test the bike! and it gets confusing! The existing R15 is a brilliant product and the new version will have to live upto its name. I doubt Yamaha would alter its handling or performance to satisfy the 'posers'

Does that look like the ABS grid on it?

NO!

Does that look like the ABS grid on it?

NO!

jealous of cbr...? if u say this about ninja.....i would agree to u.....!
already ride the cbr couple of times.....my question is what do u get for 1.5 lakh...........? a touring bike...most of the Indian buyers go for a sports bike than a tourer for this amount of money. even i can raise my budget to buy cbr,if the cbr posses 28-30 bhp and good initial pickup....then this money could be worth..
considering Indian road conditions, R15 is enough...
if d new bikes performance is better than the old one one,....then R15 becomes much sweeter....

Are ya sure about that thing ? You know about "riding a CBR" ? Well I seriously doubt that