your anything is RACING. so you go ahead with RACING bcoz most of the people are commuter and not RACER like you. i hope you become the next Valentino rossi and not end up like azahar's son.

thats bcoz people dont wanna wait however in here hunk and cbz numbers are increasing even yamaha's sz, szx and szr are selling in a great number.

bro i know they are improving day by day, i have a classic pulsar 150 and rode every upgrade of it and i know reliability is better than previous and so is the
refinement. i opted for karizma only for touring purpose otherwise R15 was my first choice. every month i ride my bike to home varanasi from lucknow and vice-versa ie 600kms on not so good road and P220 is the best touring bike according to me provided if you can maintain it well.

Quality issues is a convenient term for Bajaj/Pulsar haters to hide behind. No one exactly points to the issues, just use the term quality issues. What's the problem with your bike, did engine seize within the 1st year of usage?
Is it beyond your genius to determine best selling bike month after month for 10 years can only boast of cheap price with good looks to do so?? wake up, get over it. If unicorn has waiting list, doesn't mean 150cc is devoid of options.. Unicorn is just a reliable, bland looking & boring bike made for uncles. There are bikes like FZ, GS150R, Dazzler, Hunk, CBZ.. apart from FZ everything else was cheaper than P150 until recently, so get your facts right and then post something that can contribute to thread, rather than posting a flame message with your medieval opinion of Bajaj bikes.

bro im not a pulsar hater, i still say if u have ever rode a pulsar than u wont enjoy any riding any bike. the sound of the engine when ripped is like reaching nirvana.
since you were talking about problems
1: my pulsar needs clutch plate and timing chain change once in every 2000kms
2: no matter what i get replace khatar-khatar sound is there.
3: my electricals got screwed up completely after 3 years got it replaced and again gone kaput after 1 year
4: my silencer has been replaced 5 times in 10 years
5: speedometer has been replaced twice
6: replaced rear shock absorbers twice.
7: silencer side rearset broke after i hit a speedbreaker @80kmph
8: everytime by mistake whenever i hit a pothole @50kmph or above i have to change front fork seals because it starts leaking.
enough of classic
now the new pulsars:
1: my friend (smoker & doper) changed his headlight assembly thrice
2: CDI has been replaced once
3: everytime he hit the highways his sensors start shortcircutting due to odd placement
4: his handlebar screw broke twice
ok enough of pulsar now comes avenger
1: my friend brought a avenger 200 1.5years ago and soon after ride off from showroom his drive chain broke off
2: after first service his his electricals gone kaput
3: his bike dont start in the morning without dhakka or jump start

do you want more?

Sorry if this seems like i'm nitpicking but judging over a million Pulsars and thousands of Avenger's just because some of them have troubles is not right.
Many mates of mine still use gen 3 pulsars with few/no hassles!
Even many Unicorn bike owners face issues but you are not willing to call them as having quality issues and as an owner of a Honda product i'm personally not happy with the plastic quality,rider/pillion ergonomics etc.
And please stop using the word cheap and replace it with "Value for Money"!

even mine bro. every bike has small niggles and some need more attention than others. im not even saying that it is a big problem, its just a matter of experience, my experience was bad so i choose otherwise but here people start saying that my pulsar is better bcoz it can defeat your bike in RACE.

My comments in Bold.

i cant say about the mechanic as all the repair job was done in the service center with original spare parts. i cant comment if im a bad or careless rider as i ride good afaik rest ill have to ask my friends. All of my silencers faced same problem, the decibel killer broke and fall inside the silencer dont know whats the exact problem.
regarding aashish's P220, his H/L assembly are changed due to dust accumulation inside. and he didnt had an accident dont know why his handle bar screw broke twice, even he dont know.
regarding rearset breaking and front fork seal damaging, this only happens in my pulsar not any other bike. on highways, several times i hit potholes with severe speeds but never faced problem.
speedometer problems: in the first one tachometer went kaput and in second one fuel gauge. reason behind this is unknown.

As stated earlier, the Next Gen Pulsars will be totally Re-Engineered.. with KTM DNA in it.

The past (First Gen: 2001-2011) will be anyway be written in Golden Letters. Issues, niggles, learnings and success.. all part of a great Indian success story. Time to look ahead.

Just asking cos, the problems you've mentioned are very very rare to be showing up on the same bike all at once. So, till facts are clear, let's just say you are an extremely unlucky person to have owned such a bike. In fact, such problems are not even reported on those cheap Chinese bikes that were being imported a few years ago.

Am totally agree with you.

Ok, so one of my friend brought a Karizma and within few days his headlight and whole electrical circuit gone dead... So I should start saying that Hero Moto is bad company??? LOL.... Things like this can happen with any bike..

Dude... Just learn the fact that its a machine and can work for many years or die in just next moment.

Any bike which is not maintained well will have problems or niggles whether it is Hero moto,Bajaj,Tvs or Honda

Answers in bold.


He probably has put all seen, heard and rumoured problems under one list saying he faced them. Just to give it more credibility.

An intelligent reply. Future matters more here.
Atleast Bajaj tried. They're better than an other "paintjob" company that I'm reminded of right now.

I don't disagree that my Pulsar has had some minor problems too. But you ever saw me critisizing it? What kind of biker doesn't love his bike? Love means to accept the other entity into your heart despite her shortcomings.
If she had a problem, I got it solved through the service station's mechanics in front of my eyes.

In exchange of that, I have had countless good times and great memories. They were worth the little niggles anyday!

And Mzee_Maverick: Most of your problems are hard to believe..
You blame Bajaj for Chain-sprockets made by Rolon?? (Rolon makes them for all Indian companies alike, including your ZMR)
Similarly, 5 silencers replaced in 10 years? Where did you get so much money man?
You blaming Bajaj for Dhakka Start, because the battery doesn't work?

I could address most of your complaints, but what about my time...?

bro believe it or not its ur problem. 5 silencers in 10 years is not a big deal bro iirc classic silencers were approx 1600bucks.
that dhakka start problem which i mentioned was not just in one avenger but two and another is of a friend in karnataka named krishnanunni.
im not saying that "my bike is better than yours" its just a matter of experience. i have my pulsar and i like riding her even now.