As far as I speculate Bajaj would not be interested in having a 180cc machine from now onwards since it would be just too many models. 150 & 200cc is enough and they are going to have 350cc also, so no need of keeping so less difference in cc among them.
This would probably be a 150cc since the back is too big for a 125cc bike. But 125cc would surely be on the cards next

Guys guys guys...... you guys sawed those "NEX-GEN" pulsar spy photos without rear discs, round front disc brake. And the launched pulsar is complete different and has a rear discs and petal front discs.

So this would be just a test bike and the original bike will be way different from this test bike..!

Anyone with same thought?

i still believe those rear disc less pulsars were lower capacity like 125 cc. based on ktm 125.

it may be the new xcd 150.

As i seen the full picture of this bike somewhere in web, according to me it may be the new xcd 150. with triple spark swirl injection technology.

slight OT...

220 was updated ?
that was just a paint job. if i remember correctly, pulsar speedlines. isn't it.
now P200NS is launched, which can't be called an upgraded 220.

are you sure buddy, coz i am too lazy to check, but my P150 smokes all disco150's and P135's on the highway.

i am asking this coz, i have checked with quite a few of d150 & P135's, they loose steam after a while.

mine is P150 UG3.

I have a strong feeling that this could be a D125 sporting the same 125cc KTM engine from Duke125 with some tweaks.

Just think abt this. If BAL can claim an economy of 55+ kmpl from a 200cc engine of P200NS, i don't see why they can't extract good mileage from a similar 125cc engine.

And with 15Nm of peak power this engine can surely sprint.

With above two points BAL has a very strong point of making it big in this segment - "sports commuter"

Ur views?

Part in bold is absolutely true. But if the bike is to be used as an urban commuter, there is nothing coming close to a D150. I would say, ride it to believe it. Discover and Duke are as different as chalk and cheese. One makes all its torque extremely low down(<5.5k RPM), the other one peaks at 9.5k RPM.

Waay OT: @Prince Sirohi, Is the HP bunk opposite RK, Lonavala another name for 'Daylight Robbery personified'? Because My bike returned abysmal figures of 27kmpl after filling up there day before yesterday . If yes, then we MUST make a complaint.

you have a VM.

Well, 220 DTSi was discontinued, after 200NS launch. So, both were/are the flagship machines of their times.
I wasn't referring to speedlines version, was referring to the 200NS only.

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@ nirvana: You may be right. A 125cc with serious techno, might give good mileage. Not to mention that the Duke 125 has almost a square engine, and it should be easy to tune it either ways.
Let's see what happens...

Everything else is alright, but you forgot to mention that "You Come From the Future" .

HA HA HA .. was about to post same thing..

anyways, plz confirm...so we can not buy a P220 now..

p150 has more power obviously it will leave the d150 or p135 behind....

if power to weight ratio is to be considered the p135 and the bullet 350 twinspark are equal(111 and 112)

power to weight ratio shows how much flickable a bike is...

also this cannot be taken as the ultimate factor as we also need to see how the power and torque is spread across the rev range,the gearing on the vehicle...

the d150 and p135 dont have a major power difference or a weight difference(13.5PS,122kg and 13PS,121 kg)

yet from what i knw the p135 is way more stable at higher speed and has a higher top speed too and is more flickable...

this is because the way the engine is made is completely different...


could u xplain the lose STEAM after a while....

Rajivbajaj said that p200ns will coexist with the current pulsar family....please someone do check out and tell us...

I am sorry I couldn't make any sense of this post. Bits in blue are a question answer pair.

Bit in Green is absurd. Did you mean to say that C350 and P135 are equally flickable?

About the bit in Purple, P135 is more stable due to its engine? Way more stable than? D150 Or P150 UG3?

The rest of it doesn't make any sense, at least not to the relevant topic.

Coming back to topic, All Discovers are commuters. Commuters have good low end torque so they can be easy to ride in the urban bumper-to-bumper environments. Peak torque comes at ultra low RPMs
eg.
Bike : Peak Torque RPM
Slingshot : 3500
Super Splendor : 4000
Glamour : 4000
Platina 100 : 4500
Platina 125 : 4500
Yamaha SZ : 4500
Splendor + : 5000
Passion + : 5000
Achiever : 5000
Discover 100 : 5000
Shine : 5500
Discover 125 : 5500
Discover 150 : 5500
Unicorn : 5500

All Pulsars (and all their competitors) are high revving machines who make peak torque at comparatively higher RPMs.

Bike : Peak Torque RPM
FZ / Fazer : 6000
ZMA / ZMR : 6000
Stunner : 6500
Pulsar 150 : 6500
Dazzler : 6500
Hunk : 6500
Extreme : 6500
RTR 160 : 6500
Pulsar 180 : 6500
RTR 180 : 6500
Pulsar 220 Fi : 6500
Pulsar 220 Carb : 7000
CBR250R : 7000
P135 : 7500
R15 : 7500
P200NS : 8000
Duke 125: 8000
Duke 200 : 8000
Ninja 250R : 8200
CBR150R : 9500

As you can very well see in the above list, the higher the peak torque RPM, the 'sportier' we 'perceive' the bike.

Also, if you include rider weight(s) when you calculate Power-to-Weight ratio, you will see that torque curves, gearing and all that cr@p doesn't matter anymore. If it does, it only matters in the 0-30 timing. People may lie, but Maths never lies.

This list also confirms some of our perceptions regarding bikes, like,
1. Dazzler is the sportier cousin of the Unicorn.
2. Stunner is the sportier cousin of the Shine.
3. Extreme / Hunk are 'sportier' than Achiever.
4. P135 the sportiest Pulsar to be launched yet.
5. R15 is sportier than Fazer.

What kind of handling suits a bike is determined by the place in the powerband where the torque peaks. Thats how the manufacturers tune the handling accordingly and make each bike as a unique package. Feel free to add your bike to this list if it is missing and you will know what I mean my the previous 2 statements.

Obviously, from the above list, they cannot base the new Discover on the Duke engine, because obviously their engine characteristics do not match up with what the competition commuter bikes offers. *Some Tweaks* are not going to change the peak torque RPM from 8k to 5k. So can we officially put this speculation to rest?

However, basing new smaller Pulsars on smaller Duke platform is a distinct possibility. So maybe the next set of Pulsars will be the P125, P150 and P200NS. But the Discover is definitely not getting based on Duke.

@antz.bin, I suppose new Discover will have refinement gained by the development of P200NS and Duke 200. so there won't be a new duke but there would be a new Discover. That would prove that Bajaj learned "completely" about the engine of P200NS if they could achieve the same refinement levels of P200NS.