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**aditya_YZF-R15** · 11-01-2014, 02:46 AM

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^^ haha, that's probably because most enthusiasts in india are a tad too passionate about yamaha :P it's the brand that gave us some of the legendary 2 strokes still running on the roads and in modern times it gave us the R15 thus starting/filling-the-need-of a whole new type of riding temperament..hence high expectations from them all the time and them coming out to it a bit too late most of the times :P

however, if you are referring to R25 thread getting locked up, i think that was because the thread was getting filled with same kinda posts while there was no new news or development about the bike from the company, not because passions were running high there too :-)

**Sid_dha_raj** · 11-01-2014, 10:09 AM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Launched Globally: xBhp News

^^ Exactly

I guess this thread is gonna face the same fate as R25 thread. The same chewed out discussions, no official news and finally lockdown. Phew!

**sparky** · 11-01-2014, 10:19 AM

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Yamaha has never sold a product via CKD here if I am not wrong, so what are the odds of them releasing the R25 or the R3 here as CKD- probably 10%-20% IMO, and if not does Yamaha India plant have the capability to produce the twins- very doubtful so in a nutshell Yamaha selling the quarter liter twins in India is not going to happen at least until late 2015 or 2016.

**abhimanyu31** · 11-01-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by sparky View Post

Yamaha has never sold a product via CKD here if I am not wrong...

Initial lots of R15 version 1 were CKD...

**Sarvajit** · 11-01-2014, 05:51 PM

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Yes, the first few batches of 20P1 series were actually CKDs, though it was supposed to be produced here. This was probably done due to time crunch.
But, announcing a vehicle as a CKD itself to begin with, will push the price real high.
It's time Yamaha made some announcement!

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**abhimanyu31** · 11-01-2014, 06:38 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Launched Globally: xBhp News

Unfortunately for me this bike is too little too late... I have been enjoying 300cc bike for the past 18 months and R3 is not going to offer me anything new. No USDs, no radial callipers, no Deltabox chassis, no fully adjustable suspension. Nothing new or USP compared to the N300. Yes, it has a better dash board and slightly more power on paper, but I already have a professional dash board in my bike and my bike already makes lot more power than a stock.

Initially when I had contemplated adding another bike to my stable, I was toying around with the RC390 and the then announced R25. But after taking a look at the RC390 and hearing the feedback that I got from fellow N300 tribe members, I was disappointed by the offerings. I decided it would be better to invest in a Super sport or Superbike.

So while I am a die hard Yamaha fan, this one is not for me. Now I am waiting to see if Yamaha introduces the long rumoured all new R1. If not, then Yamaha is going to loose a loyal customer of 28 years to Triumph or Kawasaki

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**pravu** · 11-01-2014, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Unfortunately for me this bike is too little too late... If not, then Yamaha is going to loose a loyal customer of 28 years to Triumph or Kawasaki

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Of course they cannot loose you but lose you :P

Yamaha has and will be having their own base of customers as and when time demands.

**Balgi** · 11-01-2014, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Unfortunately for me this bike is too little too late... I have been enjoying 300cc bike for the past 18 months and R3 is not going to offer me anything new. No USDs, no radial callipers, no Deltabox chassis, no fully adjustable suspension. Nothing new or USP compared to the N300. Yes, it has a better dash board and slightly more power on paper, but I already have a professional dash board in my bike and my bike already makes lot more power than a stock.

Initially when I had contemplated adding another bike to my stable, I was toying around with the RC390 and the then announced R25. But after taking a look at the RC390 and hearing the feedback that I got from fellow N300 tribe members, I was disappointed by the offerings. I decided it would be better to invest in a Super sport or Superbike.

So while I am a die hard Yamaha fan, this one is not for me. Now I am waiting to see if Yamaha introduces the long rumoured all new R1. If not, then Yamaha is going to loose a loyal customer of 28 years to Triumph or Kawasaki

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Wait! Don't you own a ninja300 already? Well in that case Yamaha has already lost you. Just forget their entry level stuff and go for R6 instead, that is if you aren't already waiting for the all new R1.

**abhimanyu31** · 11-01-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Wait! Don't you own a ninja300 already? Well in that case Yamaha has already lost you. Just forget their entry level stuff and go for R6 instead, that is if you aren't already waiting for the all new R1.

Like I said the R3 is 'too little, too late' for me personally... I waited for 3 years for Yamaha to come out with 250 or larger capacity bike (I have a R15 2009). My wife, seeing my frustration insisted that I go for the N300 while assuring me that I could buy another bike next year when it was available. Before the N300, all my bikes have been Yamaha (except a RTR160 I used for 10 months), I have been a life long Yamaha fan.

After 18 months with N300 (despite being a Yamaha fan) I have come to admire the N300 for its build quality and performance. With the lifelong association with Yamaha, when R25 was announced, it pulled at the heart strings and I was seriously thinking of going for it. But after the initial rush of feelings, I looked at it dispassionately and find that the R3 has nothing to offer to a current N300 owner.

The above stated opinion is in no way a criticism of the R3 other than for a person like me it comes a little bit too late and does not offer enough to make me want to buy it.

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**Balgi** · 11-02-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Like I said the R3 is 'too little, too late' for me personally... I waited for 3 years for Yamaha to come out with 250 or larger capacity bike (I have a R15 2009). My wife, seeing my frustration insisted that I go for the N300 while assuring me that I could buy another bike next year when it was available. Before the N300, all my bikes have been Yamaha (except a RTR160 I used for 10 months), I have been a life long Yamaha fan.

After 18 months with N300 (despite being a Yamaha fan) I have come to admire the N300 for its build quality and performance. With the lifelong association with Yamaha, when R25 was announced, it pulled at the heart strings and I was seriously thinking of going for it. But after the initial rush of feelings, I looked at it dispassionately and find that the R3 has nothing to offer to a current N300 owner.

The above stated opinion is in no way a criticism of the R3 other than for a person like me it comes a little bit too late and does not offer enough to make me want to buy it.

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I was just kidding bro but I do feel your pain. I myself own two Yamahas. One from 1969 and the other a 1986 Rx100. I also wanted a good quarter litre Yamaha for a long time but back then Yamaha was busy making shitty commuter bikes and even now they are stuck with 150cc bikes. They're not even doing their best bike the R15 justice. With barely any promotion and dwindling sales. It seems Yamaha is more concerned with small markets they dominate currently, like Indonesia and Philippines.
You are right about the too little too late part bro. Yamaha should consider new leadership. This current business strategy of theirs must be changed.

**aditya_YZF-R15** · 11-02-2014, 04:20 PM

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yeah for those who already own the ninja 300, i also dont see any reason at all (even on paper) for them to chuck it off and buy the R3..the R3 is pretty much just the same product as ninja 300, almost completely same type of tech, chassis/design and specs..even in looks department the ninja 300 will be regarded a more sexy looking bike than the R3 by most people...if they had made the R3 a full fledged supersport like a smaller version of R6/R1 (or even just a bigger version of R15/R125) as was expected by many, it might have made some difference to the minds of many ninja 300 owners, but they didnt.

balgi - mate R15 doesnt quite require any more promotion. sales are still pretty damn high, a bit dwindling sales (because more other bikes of same type in option for the masses) isn't any concern anymore for the company since it's now a bit old bike.

also, indonesian performance/non-commuter biking market is regarded to be much larger than indian performance biking scene:-)

**ABikerAtHeart** · 11-02-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post

if they had made the R3a full fledged supersport like a smaller version of R6/R1 (or even just a bigger version of R15/R125) as was expected by many, it might have made some difference to the minds of many ninja 300 owners, but they didnt.

They've made the R3 a practical bike, just like the Ninja 300 and completely unlike the RC390 ("a full fledged supersport" so to say).

Now Ninja owners, atleast most, are still not inclined towards switching over to the RC. Chances are they wouldn't have switched over to the "full fledged" R3 either.

That said, I think Yamaha made a fantastic choice with the design, keeping it simple.

**aditya_YZF-R15** · 11-02-2014, 11:35 PM

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^^ yes the R3 (and R25) is designed by the company to be practical semi-sportbike type bikes much like the ninjas (and as opposed to R6 or even RC390 type full fledged ones)...and it's very likely going to be a really good bike as well (and the design is also good enough).

what i meant was that had yamaha made the R3 a full-on sportbike like a smaller version R6 or something, at least in principle it 'might' have made at least some ninja 300 owners have at least some thoughts about buying it, as opposed the present case when pretty much no ninja 300 owner will even think about buying the R3 because it's basically the same bike as their current ninja..:-)

imo one reason most/all ninja 300 owners are not so inclined towards RC390 is that firstly the RC/KTM isn't yet proven yet on indian roads as much as kawasaki or yamaha (people still having doubts about compromised quality by bajaj and so on, although new dukes apparently not having as much issues as the earlier ones and so far it seems the RC isn't showing any issues either apparently) and secondly many of them probably don't want to switch down to one less cylinder since 2 cylinders is still a novelty in indian market (and perhaps better high-rev friendly as some say), and thirdly the ninja 300 is an even more premium product and will be so (while the RC is already selling a lot more) so that factor is also probably playing a role in several minds.

**ABikerAtHeart** · 11-03-2014, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post

^^ yes the R3 (and R25) is designed by the company to be practical semi-sportbike type bikes much like the ninjas (and as opposed to R6 or even RC390 type full fledged ones)...and it's very likely going to be a really good bike as well (and the design is also good enough).

what i meant was that had yamaha made the R3 a full-on sportbike like a smaller version R6 or something, at least in principle it 'might' have made at least some ninja 300 owners have at least some thoughts about buying it, as opposed the present case when pretty much no ninja 300 owner will even think about buying the R3 because it's basically the same bike as their current ninja..:-)

imo one reason most/all ninja 300 owners are not so inclined towards RC390 is that firstly the RC/KTM isn't yet proven yet on indian roads as much as kawasaki or yamaha (people still having doubts about compromised quality by bajaj and so on, although new dukes apparently not having as much issues as the earlier ones and so far it seems the RC isn't showing any issues either apparently) and secondly many of them probably don't want to switch down to one less cylinder since 2 cylinders is still a novelty in indian market (and perhaps better high-rev friendly as some say), and thirdly the ninja 300 is an even more premium product and will be so (while the RC is already selling a lot more) so that factor is also probably playing a role in several minds.

^^Lets not speak for others, shall we?

Ninja owners wanted the Ninja300, not the RC or the R3 in any form whatsoever. Period.

**Cleaner** · 11-03-2014, 01:12 AM

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I was hoping to see ABS on this bike, it sucks that ABS is non existent in below 250cc bikes in India, barring the RTR180.

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