Re: All Triumph Motorcycles Sold in India are Detuned .. ?

You have a triumph, are taking it up this 'cheating' with triumph?

100% correct.
nothing surprising!

wishful thinking i would be surprised if they were offered a tankful of fuel.

So who is (or has?) taking them to court? Or is this going to be limited to the discussions on such online forums and fade away from the news soon?
I'd love to see the owners of these bikes sue triumph and taste victory. Yeh wishful thinking..

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Maybe crowd fund some cash and place a front page notice with links to these articles online on prominent newspapers regarding this issue?

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If we are ready, we can march in-front of their showroom with black flags all over India if nothing comes from them in-between. I am also closely monitoring the BRATS .

I live in a democracy and no one can take away my right to protest or justice.

P.S. - I don't own a Triumph but still a die-hard-biker at heart and could have been on the other side of the fence .

As I type this, just saw in my WhatsApp Triumph seemed to have apologised in Hindustan times. Yet to read full article...

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Legendary British superbike maker Triumph on Monday said it would reach out to each of the near-100 customers of its roadster, Street Triple, after facing a backlash for exaggerating the power output of the bike in India by over 25%.
The company had said the Street Triple produces 106 PS power, but this is the European variant. Last month it updated the figures for the Indian version at 79 PS, setting off howls of protest from buyers.

Triumph apologises for selling bike with wrong specifications - Hindustan Times

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Thats a great Idea, if we can project our views on the front page of leading newspapers, nothing better than making others aware. Is there a way this can be achieved throughout India. What do you guys think?

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Of course tirumph is reading this thread and many other such discussions going on online..(and my prev post on newspaper ad lit a bulb in their head)
It's up to the owners to start demanding compensation /refunds or whatever they want in return for being mislead. They need to take the first step.
You and me being non-owners can't do much but vent our frustration here and then go back to our daily routine. If we are potential customers, then we might take a step back.. and now that they have 'clarified' on this, potential customers cannot say triumph cheating (from this point of time).
Triumph has as much right to sell a 2bhp scooter to a 200bhp sbk, but shouldn't have or be misleading with the specs.. what their method of 'reaching' out to customers is to be seen. Owners do let us know how they 'reached' out to you.

That articles quotes someone saying this ""I tested the (Kawasaki) Z800 also before deciding in favour of the Street Triple. You guys think that if you had told us then that it was 79 PS we would have even test ridden it?""
So this guy preferred the triumph (not sure what his reasons were) to the z800. If it was power, then he favored the lesser mortal even though he test rode it ? That shows the pathetic state of 'test' rides offered to us.. and maybe specs are just another number on the paper and not felt by most riders due to the useless test rides and less than useful information provided by auto journalists who 'exclusively' ride these bikes and give us their figures on performance (which doesn't include any independently tested power/torque figures)
I still do not now how much of a difference a rider can feel between a 79 and a 100 bhp machine.. both are FAST though (fast is a relative term). What i can say is, if i ride a orange painted duke 200 (making it look like a d390) I will know it is a 200.. I can tell the difference between a 25bhp and a 44bhp by the way it performs on a short ride. But if you get someone who has been riding only 100cc bikes and tell them the 200 is a 390, he will most likely believe it..(this again is relativity)

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One thing is, z 800 is the only comparable bike to st3. I dont know if kawasaki is offering a teat ride.
In a congested city street, really comparing the power of a middle weight super naked is not practical.



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Brits, from earlier colonialism to this neo colonialism
Has anyone notice ,how T is taking it casually ,on their fb page ,they shared someones post stating that he doesn't care about it ,he looves his triple .
Boycott this brand .

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that's why i said 'pathetic state of test rides'

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We can imagine how bad it must have been during British rule. Random injustice without any reason. Just because we are Indians.
I am glad to not buy this motorcycle.

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All triumph test ride bikes have an arrow exhaust + remap. When i went to bangalore showroom for TD, i said i would like to ride a stock bike since i am not buying arrow exhausts to which SE replied that all triumph TD bikes worldwide have arrow exhausts. At that moment i could not understand why? but now i am clear. They wanted to show something and sell something else. On these big bikes, 20bhp + or - is hard to detect for some one who is upgrading from 100/200cc bike.
Also TD Street triple i rode had fuelling issues at around 2000rpm & they said its because of quick shifter
It is difficult to gauge performance of these bikes in our pathetic city traffic and roads.


+1 Satya. But i feel bad for my friends who bought ST & Bonnie. I wish they file a case and triumph compensates them.

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Any news if current owners takinf Triumph to court? It feels bad to be in this situation. Most owners would not have brought ST had they known true facts.
Having said that how many of you will not buy a Triumph bike in the future barring the ST.
DaytonaR was always in my list of next upgrade and all this fiasco will only make me deal with them cautiously as there is nothing in the market that competes with the DatonaR

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3 weeks back, I had a ride on my Ninja towards Cochin on a beautifully laid 4 lane tarmac. I met a guy on signal who's riding a red St3 with arrow exhaust. I admired him instantly by the sound and the bike and gave him a thumbs up and we ride together on 100kmph for sometime. I requested him for a rolling acceleration from 30kmph with ninja (I know it's dumb, but just curious and wished to see it darting) we both on first gear and we cracked open. Obviously it went like an arrow released from a high strung bow. but with just 33ps, I could still see it on some distance and I was wondering why a bike more than 3x times the power of my bike do only this much...? I still recollect the laugh and cry at same time when I did the same with an FZ1 back in Bengaluru... Obviously it's more powerful, but the difference is like night and day. Feeling sorry for the St3 owners now and sad to hear such a thing for my favourite motorcycle

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I will not buy a triumph product unless they pull up their socks and come up with a solution for the existing owners. Am empathetic towards my fellow riders who were mislead and conned by a British manufacturer of supposedly 100 years of heritage. I wanted to go for a bonnie after my marriage as it is more pillion friendly. Now I may go for a kawa Er6n or a Honda 650 (if it's launched by then). A product coming from a company which brazenly flouts business ethics doesn't deserve a place in my garage. Current owners and those who are planning to take up this issue with triumph big time, hell yeah, go ahead. Teach them a lesson, we are with you. When v are ready to fight it out for that 1rs change with a bus conductor, when v argue and bargain with a vegetable vendor for that one extra onion or potato then why do we need to be passive on a large scale fraud such as this!!! It's time to assert our rights. It's not just a matter of a rupee or a onion anymore. It's pure passion!

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Valid point. But as they say, public memory is short. My friend worked with Triumph showroom in Mumbai and I was impressed by their focus towards customers. Unless current owners do something concrete others will forget about it after a whike and business will be as usual for Triumph

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I for one would never go for a Triumph in the future, never.