Re: All Triumph Motorcycles Sold in India are Detuned .. ?

So other than exhaust and mapping they are also changing internal parts. Interesting very interesting. Would be much helpful if all get these things and what all are changed.
Indeed this information will be very much helpful atleast for all Triumph owners.

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so they are making street legal bike in to a street illegal bike ? what kind of a compensation is that ? Doesn't make one bit of sense, and would in fact create more legal hassles for the owner. a triumph 'street' triple that is not 'street' legal .. lmao!
I think i will hunt around for street triple owners with such a mod riding on the streets and bump in to them and then claim compensation saying that they are riding illegal bikes

and lets stop saying the bike 'flies' or use such adjectives.. am sure similar adjectives were used to describe the bike earlier. Lets see some hard numbers that are results of proper tests.

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Not very satisfactory in my opinion. And that's very low of them to ask for ~10k from the owner for their compensation! I believe the owner should have the power to accept or reject this offer and ask for monetary compensation or buy back.

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And according to the Triumph showroom owner, all imported bikes with power commander and aftermarket exhausts are illegal.

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So let me get this straight, the owner now has to pay 10K to convert his bike named and built for 'Street' to a street illegal one to get the performance closer to the one that he thought would be getting by paying 9L+ to fix the fuss-up made by Triumph? Sounds great. Classic British stuff. Thought these things were confined to our text books and ended before 1947.

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i am pretty sure that 10k is for changing the valves from steel to titanium... those brazilian spec steel valves cannot handle 106 ps...

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Interesting thing is, and nobody seems to have noticed it yet, that since Triumph says that the motorcycle becomes illegal after such modifications, does the motorcycle remain eligible for the insurance by the company? Does the motorcycle's current insurance still stands, is it still valid?! If the answer to these questions is NO, then the owner who has accepted this so called "offer" will never be able to claim insurance anymore. Or am I missing something here? Can he still get a third party insurance for his legally-sold-illegal-motorcycle?

What kind of work ethics is this? @nitrosatya, can you please ask your friend about the above when you get the chance? I hope he's not being taken for another ride!

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there will be legal issues in certain circumstances. Current Insurance will become invalid, and he would need to get a new insurance for the modded bike (if such a thing is even available here)
maybe it was a one off compensation, or is triumph rolling out this all owners ? And btw, a lot of settlements n stuff will be done in a hush-hush manner behind closed doors i think
And i do not see triumph making a publicized recall , refund or whatever.. they will sweep this under the carpet soon, unless some owner holds them down in court.

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As far as I am concerned, the issue is NOT that the Street Triple is detuned. Instead, the issue is that the company hid this fact and sold the motorcycles by misleading people that it is a 106PS motorcycle. So they are NOT going to do any recall or whatever of that sort.

Secondly, if the current insurance becomes invalid then does it mean that the owner cannot go to the Triumph showroom anymore from where he bought the motorcycle and ask them to renew the insurance? That will be a big bummer!

Re: All Triumph Motorcycles Sold in India are Detuned .. ?

the fact that the bike goes from 'triumph street triple' to 'triumph street illegal' makes the insurance invalid. It is the case with any road legal vehicle, not just triumphs.
They could be getting insurance for the street illegal bike , maybe like insuring track bikes.. getting insurance is possible for a lot of things so i think that is a possibility. But the fact remains that the bike will be street illegal, so if he get an insurance for a track spec bike, then that insurance will cover the damages caused when used on a track or the like.. but road legality will be null n void.

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I will meet him and ask all the details.

But what about all the gixxers,blades,hayabusas which have aftermarket exhausts? Don't they still get the insurance?

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I don't think installing a street legal aftermarket exhaust is illegal or makes the motorcycle illegal. There are so many aftermarket exhausts for the street use. That is why I am wondering that why did Triumph say that the motorcycle will become illegal after the modification? I am guessing they wouldn't want to be held responsible if anything goes wrong in the motorcycle after modifications and are simply finding a easy way out of it!

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They are just doing damage control by offering these 'goodies' to customers so that they dont take them to court. If the customer accepts then they have saved their reputation. And by making the customer agree that he is now riding an illegal (w.r.t ARAI) vehicles, they are washing their hands off any future trouble from ARAI/Indian Law.

I am pretty sure that while getting the customer to sign some form that says they don't have any problem riding their illegal vehicle, they will be saying 'Nothing will happen Sir! You will not face any problem in the future. This is just a formality'.

Two birds with one stone. Quite a strategy I must say.

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If the bike is illegal, not only its insurance but even its registration will stand cancelled. And no company can sell an illegal bike. So I don't think they can even get a form Signed which says we are selling you an illegal bike. They will be in the dock again. What they can do is maybe, like someone pointed out, wash their hands off the warranty. Which also raises an interesting question, what is the point of official exhaust if it basically effs up your warranty. It will be interesting to watch what they offer as compensation. To each his own, but I still think in terms of compensation going to consumer court might be the best bet. One thing I do see is Kawasaki Z800 gaining from it. And it should. What a terribly stupid move from Triumph.

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The motorcycle when sold is not illegal. It met the regulations, standards set by ARAI & the respective RTO's.

Now, the owner is demanding his 106ps. This is offered to the customer in the form of various modifications free of cost as compensation.

As you know, recently there was a crackdown by Bangalore police on various roadside mechanics who install illegal modifications and they were made to shut shop. Now if the owner is caught with the illegal bike, the company will be made liable saying the modification was carried out by the company. To avoid any such issues, the company is getting a written acknowledgement from the customers saying the mods carried were communicated as illegal. Triumph can always argue later that they should not be held liable as the customer had mentioned the motorcycle will be used on tracks and not on streets and hence we went ahead with the installation. Smart.

Also, insurance as such does not lapse. the components that are not factory fitted and not registered on the RC will not be compensated. If there is an accidental fire they will blame the changed component for it and the owner will be loser.

Any internal mechanical failures due to the changed component should be honored under warranty and replaced without hassles.