Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!


Sorry this is not chinese quality issue....... quality check - Apple products are iphone is made in China

This is Bajaj - Indian quality issue; simple reason - They want to make higher profit from every bike & cut costs wherever possible. I mean seriously why aren't many people able to see this? Sure Bajaj is their Favourite brand but does that make one look away from the reality.

Question is again Why the F does bajaj buy from these guys??? And do they not do quality testing of their own? It's so conveient from them to just throw a blame at the vendor (esp when it's Chinese - so it's easier to make believe). But those in the manufacturing sector will know that the Vendors make & give the quality what is demanded by the Parent company.

The other question is If there are reputed Wheel manufacturers out there who's wheels are being used by the other competitors like HOnda & Yamaha then why is Bajaj not using them?

Honestly this is really disappointing coming from one of the top manufacturers - one which has played a big role in changing the Indian biking industry. I guess "Profits" became their driving force after sometime.

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Oh I didn't know it.then how about the Yamaha fz breaking alloy.check the second or third page.photos are there !

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That accident was met at 105 KMPH ts a 2009 thread and there is a complete story out there.
Also the break pattern is NOT consistent, with one alloy pillar taking out a part of RIM, there's no pattern to the breakage.
Also the break suggest that the alloy was not overly brittle, it tore out a part of rim.

ALL manufacturers are known to treat countries like India or let me rephrase the complete Indian Subcontinent badly.

This is in tandem to the state of SBK owners and the pains they have to go through once it faces some problem.

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You are looking at the other story.check the page 2 or 3

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Couldn't find any FZ on pg 2 or 3 can you post the image?

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I will have to search for it.one min

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Here is the Pic.

and the link to the description

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/32526-rs200-alloy-wheel-breaking-issue-4.html

So now my friend what are your thoughts for Yamaha!!!!!

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AS mentioned before this is a post from 2009 http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...cident-fz.html
Please read further and find it for yourself.

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Originally posted by Omi View Post

AS mentioned before this is a post from 2009 http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...cident-fz.html
Please read further and find it for yourself.

His comment states it clearly""As i remember only when i saw the light near i applied the brake suddenly... with a 100+ speed i think the front alloys and brake became highly tempered which resulted in a skiding... the car driver told me the back tyre of my back hitted the under of the back door... but how all the spokes of alloys break is a mistery.""

My Point is when you look at the Yamaha FZ alloy wheel break incident in July, 2009, the owner has stated that he was thrown to the road when he applied sudden brake. This is a case in point that, even if, for argument sake, that the alloy wheel did not snap when he braked and he fell for any other reason, the end result was wheel breakage. This clearly indicates part failure.

So not only bajaj but yamaha is no exception either!

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are you serious? that bike was involved in an accident.

the forks are seriously bent inwards and the wheel is bent and is broken at different places on each spoke.

the rider was going 100+ and claims to only have a vague recollection of the incident.

look at the break pattern on the mag wheel spokes... they're completely different.

and that FZ picture is 6 years old. says a lot.

all the pulsar issues have been documented in THIS year itself.

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Famous Conversation from the movie "FIGHT CLUB" regarding recalling the defective vehicles by an auto company

Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.

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Don't even get me started on the kind of 'investigative journalism' we see from others, which is at best cooking up stories based on conversations picked up from forums including xBhp. And what you call simply copy paste, can also be described as crowdsourcing information where you see information compiled from various sources by hundreds if not thousands of members, including their own observations. (example: Take the Yamaha FZ allow wheel issue, which was brought up by an xBhp member only and promptly picked up by other websites, so was the issue of Triumph Street which surfaced on xBhp/TeamBhp and then spread elsewhere).

xBhp's strength doesn't lie in what a bunch of 4-5 guys are writing sitting in the HQ, but it lies in the discussions and the issues raised by various members. Irrespective of whether or not we write to Bajaj, the fact is they (Bajaj and all the other manufacturers) are watching the discussions happening here. What steps do they take after reading it is not in our hands. If we managed to convey the sentiments of the community to them, our job is done.


Think you wanted to say 'motorbeam, instead of motoroids.

so should all manufacturers start buying from one vendor only? This seems logical only in case no other vendor is able to provide the same quality.

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Talk about taking things out of context, and that FZ accident is a perfect example. I am done and dusted with Bajaj/KTM/TVS/Mahindra/RE long time back.

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haha! exactly!

the editor of motorbeam posted an update in the article too. (4th paragraph)

he apologized stating that the FZ in question was involved in a high speed collision.

1. "The Yamaha FZ had a big impact on the wheels hence the alloy got severely damaged" - Motorbeam

2. "There are no quality issues with the alloy in the Yamaha FZ" - Motorbeam

3. "Notice the bent front forks due to high impact with the car" - Motorbeam

4. "Such alloy wheels are bound to get damaged with high force impact" - Motorbeam

5. "The owner has confessed about over-speeding the Yamaha FZ" - Motorbeam

the text was added in after they received info from the bike owner stating that it was an accident with a car and not simply a 'wheel breaking off.'

Source of the Apology:

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A lot of what you say is true. But, gone are the days when Honda alone was the epitome of quality and BAL/TVS at the bottom. Keeping this isolated incident aside (that handlebar issue is not to be trusted 100%, it was never reported before), NS/RS/AS users are mostly happy and satisfied.

You rightly compared with MSIL on the tin can build quality, but the car doesn't just fall apart; but yeah; you have isolated cases where the rear AC in an Ertiga falls off!
Extremely sorry for the OT to everyone, but continuing on the same pitch; Hyundai deprived i20 Elite of 4 airbags (reduced from 6 to 2) and rear discs in order to add a touch infotainment system on the dashboard. Their excuse? We wanted to keep the costs in check.

Rationale of the above rant? It's what the customer wants! They want chrome, bling, touchscreens, rear camera, RVM indicators but NOT airbags/ABS/EBD etc.
Similarly, the bike buying junta wants the MAX bike in MIN price.

People go gaga over D390's 2L pricing and complain that R15 is over priced! Quality doesn't come cheap. I'm yet to see a KTM owner retain his bike for 2.5/3+ years, not that I'm against it. It is a VFM bike but I wouldn't expect it to not act up due to issues.
There were many who shifted from Honda CBR 250R to D390 and literally wrote all kinds of baseless stuff in the CBR threads. They presumably were getting more bike for the same amount of money. Where are they now? Some have silently reverted to CBRs and others are nowhere to be seen, hopefully enjoying their KTMs. Does CBR have the best quality? Nope, but slightly better and more reliable overall.

The bottom-line? Every one (read; manufacturers) is here to make profits. It is a business. They aren't doing any charity. Until and unless the public shuns bad products and demands better products in quality, manufacturers will keep being the same, producing lemons now and then!

And we need a Lemon law for protecting the buyer very soon.

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reply with facts/proof/comparisons. no one is interested in pot shots or misplaced wisecracks.


i owe nothing to Bajaj or Yamaha.

The Bajaj Pulsar is a good bike... but if an issue like this puts a human life in jeopardy... questions MUST be asked.

i have owned two Bajaj Pulsars in the past. no real issues.

i have never owned an R15 or FZ. so i owe yamaha zero in terms of gratitude.

i am simply drawing parallels. show me ONE yamaha/honda with this "wheel breaking off issue."

R15s and FZs have been in the market since 2008.

The rims on Bajaj/KTM bikes seem to be too brittle. This statement is based purely on observing the fact of the wheels shattering or breaking off.

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