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  • #91
    Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

    This is their flagship bike.so no one expects to have a cheap quality on it...


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    • #92
      Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

      Originally posted by ronitgandhi24 View Post
      add to that YAMAHA R15 AND HONDA CBR 250 retails 1.3 n 1.7 respectively so 200cc priced around 1.5 is not cheap by any means and although bike is good but still Yamaha n honda in way ahead is build quality and reliability department....plus read somewhere bajaj makes most profit out of their bikes....
      Exactly.

      I'm not against Bajaj or anything But if you dial back time to say 2004/05; Honda first time entered the market with Unicorn. It was a radical bike for it's time and it was very highly priced against the Pulsar 150, it was some 70k back then. Why was honda charging this premuim, it was definitely it's brand value - But it's not all brand value, some part of the premium is also Quality.

      Any brand doesn't just charge a premium simply because of the name, it charges it for the costs incurred to keep that brand-value attached to that name, to protect it & enhance it. hence a Harley doesn't costs a few lacks more just because it's with that logo, it ensures that each component is of utmost quality standard and quality costs. Simple.

      You think if harley were to make a competitor to Avenger Can it compete in the same price bracket? even if it's a 250cc bike? if not then think why not.
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      • #93
        Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

        Assuming that this user was unlucky to get a LEMON, can anybody post details about such lemons from HERO, HONDA, SUZUKI etc with similar wheel breakage? Or is it common for bajaj/ktm to make such lemons?

        Stunters have been abusing all kinds of motorcycles in the past, what happens to the wheel in the worst case, like ending a wheelie with a thud?
        I don't think they should break off completely, except under a severe head-on collision.

        If I had booked any bajaj/ktm motorcycle, I would have gladly cancelled the booking, even if it meant losing the booking money!!!

        A motorcyclist already has enough risks to deal with, this added risk of falling face first is a deal breaker.

        BTW I think that bajaj and ktm designers focus TOO MUCH on looks. Their alloy wheels have such thin spokes that it MANDATES using the most reliable, strongest alloy material, whereas honda etc makes thicker wheel spokes just to be of the safer side.
        [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]:
        You are quite surprised at the level of emotions pouring out, but you should know best. Anybody who sees these pictures thinks about one thing only, "What if it was me driving THAT particular motorcycle at THAT time!"
        That thought brings out all kinds of scary emotions. Hell, I was feeling drowsy and lazy due to the rains, but as soon as I saw the pics, "POOF!" my brain went into OVERCLOCK!

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        • #94
          Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

          If 1.5L is cheap then god have mercy on owners of CT & Platina

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          • #95
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            Originally posted by i_rock098 View Post
            If 1.5L is cheap then god have mercy on owners of CT & Platina
            I knew this comment would come up.... honestly there are a lot of people who think those bikes are also expensive for the price they sell and for what they have to offer in return. Not long ago proper 150cc commute bikes were quite simple looking and basic functioning hence at a particular price they offered quite good quality. So it was no-frills motorcycle, Now what if that same customer starts demanding performance and added kool features projector lamp etc at the same price. Don't you think quality will suffer from the current state?

            All I'm saying is Quality doesn't come cheap & when we try to demand everything in a motorcyle at a "reasonable" price we're just stretching it and something will give away eventually. But what we think reasonable is may not be reasonable in reality.
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            • #96
              Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

              I have seen broken alloy pics of duke, but it was due to impact. But this case looks different. Alloys breaking at similar joints, together !! Even if there is a side impact, it doesn't explain the uniform damage. Some say the alloys break on impact as a safety measure so as to minimise the shock of the impact passing on to the frame and thereby safeguarding against further damage. But these pics do scare me. Alloys are supposed to withstand ultra hard braking.
              Smashing to the ground, jawbone first is a terrible thing. I have seen people with similar damages when I was doing my PG at KIMS. It's horrific(Just imagine your tongue dangling below open to the cold air, salivating profusely) If bajaj is at fault they should investigate the incident and see whether it is a one off bike or is it the case with the entire batch. If it is then they have to recall n rectify, compensate the victim, penalise the parts supplier and also place the issue in public domain.
              I wonder why people take compensation and sign non disclosure agreement, doing so would endanger fellow riders too who buy the same product without any knowledge. I remember a similar case of Hyosung, some mech took n crashed it, he lost his life and both the owner and the company dragged their knives out on social media, majority supported the owner n then what happened next was never revealed. Only thing that happened was people lost their valuable time supporting someone's cause and in the end were left clueless. And now in this case there is no word from the end user. How can we believe a single sided story?? For us to take a stand, the involved party should be clear about his stand and come out in the open. The user has deleted his FB account n here we are making assumptions. Alloy breaking is not only limited to bajaj, it happens with all the bikes of various make, depends on various factors as mentioned previously by forum members. If you can go through the superbikes/imports crashes link on tbhp you come across all types of alloy crack n break of exotics, does it mean that they are cheap? Does it mean it is a lemon they got? Does it depend on factors leading to the crash or the crash itself? Does it depend on the driver errors?
              With so many intangibles we cannot deduce a tangible. So only thing we can do is create awareness regarding safe riding and register a protest against the company for endangering lives if it is at fault or at least bring it to their notice that the public is aware of such incidents and ask them to pull up their socks, suing the company is left to the victim (he should if he feels it is the company's fault) and buying such product is an induvidual's choice.

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              • #97
                Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                I would like to add that, upon my conversation with a Senior Journalist of Autocar. He mentioned that the RS 200 that was involved in the accident, rear ended a truck at about speeds of 80kmph. Therefore it may been seen that this might not totally be a case of a 'Faulty' product and more a case of a 'High Impact' accident.

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                • #98
                  Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                  Originally posted by AMK220 View Post
                  I would like to add that, upon my conversation with a Senior Journalist of Autocar. He mentioned that the RS 200 that was involved in the accident, rear ended a truck at about speeds of 80kmph. Therefore it may been seen that this might not totally be a case of a 'Faulty' product and more a case of a 'High Impact' accident.
                  I've spoken to senior journalists from Bike India AND Top Gear and they've said that this bike was NOT involved in any sort of collision whatsoever.

                  please! Bajaj says SIDE impact and Autocar says FRONT impact. who's making stuff up?

                  and why the hell is the rim still in perfect shape? NO BEND!

                  please!
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                  • #99
                    Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                    Originally posted by arya809 View Post
                    Assuming that this user was unlucky to get a LEMON, can anybody post details about such lemons from HERO, HONDA, SUZUKI etc with similar wheel breakage? Or is it common for bajaj/ktm to make such lemons?

                    Stunters have been abusing all kinds of motorcycles in the past, what happens to the wheel in the worst case, like ending a wheelie with a thud?
                    I don't think they should break off completely, except under a severe head-on collision.

                    If I had booked any bajaj/ktm motorcycle, I would have gladly cancelled the booking, even if it meant losing the booking money!!!

                    A motorcyclist already has enough risks to deal with, this added risk of falling face first is a deal breaker.

                    BTW I think that bajaj and ktm designers focus TOO MUCH on looks. Their alloy wheels have such thin spokes that it MANDATES using the most reliable, strongest alloy material, whereas honda etc makes thicker wheel spokes just to be of the safer side.
                    [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]:
                    You are quite surprised at the level of emotions pouring out, but you should know best. Anybody who sees these pictures thinks about one thing only, "What if it was me driving THAT particular motorcycle at THAT time!"
                    That thought brings out all kinds of scary emotions. Hell, I was feeling drowsy and lazy due to the rains, but as soon as I saw the pics, "POOF!" my brain went into OVERCLOCK!
                    For that matter, indeed i have to thank SUZUKI for plonking ENKEI, JAPAN. alloys on my GS150R.

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                    • Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                      Originally posted by Murtaza View Post
                      For that matter, indeed i have to thank SUZUKI for plonking ENKEI, JAPAN. alloys on my GS150R.

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                      • Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                        The question should be Why do Honda Suzuki use ENKEI rims that too on their Volume segment bikes???? When it can be made locally - And why doesn't Bajaj use ENKEI rims? that my friends is the question to be asked rather than whether or not was the bike involved & Was it Biker's fault.
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                        • Re: RS200 Alloy Wheel breaking issue!

                          seven case of handlebar breakage in coimbatore only -

                          Seven Cases Of Pulsar RS200 Handlebar Breakage Reported

                          its evident that it is a serious quality issue. all these incidents cant be blamed on the negligence of rider. slips and falls are bound to happen, no matter how carefully one rides the bike.

                          we seriously need some solid clarifications from bajaj. hope that xbhp's senior members can shed some light on this

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                            Originally posted by aritro88 View Post
                            seven case of handlebar breakage in coimbatore only -

                            Seven Cases Of Pulsar RS200 Handlebar Breakage Reported

                            its evident that it is a serious quality issue. all these incidents cant be blamed on the negligence of rider. slips and falls are bound to happen, no matter how carefully one rides the bike.

                            we seriously need some solid clarifications from bajaj. hope that xbhp's senior members can shed some light on this
                            This needs to be taken with a pinch of salt! I wonder why they didn't publish the name of the dealership where they saw all these bikes with broken handlebar lying around. Can someone from Coimbatore kindly confirm the same?
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                              Here's why what Bajaj says is bullshit. We Don't Believe Bajaj Statement - Pulsar Alloy Wheel Break

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                                Originally posted by sunilg View Post
                                This needs to be taken with a pinch of salt! I wonder why they didn't publish the name of the dealership where they saw all these bikes with broken handlebar lying around. Can someone from Coimbatore kindly confirm the same?
                                pinch of salt? oh please!

                                fact! the handle bars snapped. the end.

                                how does the name of the dealership matter?

                                i see people cringe at 'build quality' of korean bikes here all the time. it's exactly how they talk about products 'made in china'.

                                manufacturers in japan and germany are respected and praised.

                                i think it's time for bajaj to join the list with korean & china now.

                                accountability. that's what's missing here. Bajaj will weasel out of this one.

                                it looks like pulsars need to come with old school tube bars instead.
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