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This is HID's BlaSTER..Originally posted by digislayer View PostDoes anybody here know what this is? Found it on the race kitted R15! :P
The one which's violetish I mean...
And another news, the HID I think isn't coming with the Yamaha racing kit. It was there only on the FZ16 which was kitted, plus looked like a chinese aftermarket lamp to me. Take a look at the bulb's rear here:
I saw someone getting a chinese HID of the same configuration installed on his FZ many days back, H4 type which had a solenoid actuated Hi/Low beam changeability. It looked exactly the same.
The front brake of the r15 is now adjustable with this kit:
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@Joel: I agree with you, No major changes are gonna happen unless internal parts are tucked, or some major modification is done in internal components, mere ECU with higher cut off & cam can't do much difference. Infact i feel we will pushing our stock engine to past red line continously and damange engine on long run.
but according to you how much difference will it be from a stock bike to kitted bike in terms of performance considering only these changes like ECU, high liftcam, and sprocket setup. How much difference will be there compare to stock??? & what abt engine life
@Can some one answer this - if this kits was not street legal and only for Race then why the hell are they airing it
, and why r they broadcasting to us and common people, like that TVS is in racing since when but how many of us know what kinda mods they do on their RTR ,
If a common person can't buy it then why even talk abt it--even if it cost 53k -- Question is are they readily gonna sell to anyone who has the moolah or we gotta do something more to get them.Last edited by Shadowboy; 07-23-2009, 01:58 PM.Comment
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Do you think the advertised 17ps is true? No maker quotes the right value. Dyno results reveal the true picture.Originally posted by digislayer View PostCorrection, 1ps=0.987bhp, 17ps= 17*0.987=16.779bhp
Jus pulling ur leg lol, don't take it the other way
Has it been confirmed that the new ECU also holds the same map? Not doubting your knowledge here, but this is a genuine question that I'm curious to find an answer for...
Also, is this race cam they're providing milder than the one your Stage-1 bike is running on?
The ECU has a higher cut-off and the curve from the ride report was more or less the same with a slightly higher ignition advance. It sure revs higher, but that engine wont last too long.
The piston speed of an R15 coz of its super sexy long stroke at 10000rpm is 19.5ms. At 13000rpm its gets to 25.4ms. Thats as much as a motogp bike!!!!!
So now you know how much an R15 engine will last and why Yamaha does not recommend this for street use? And why Yamaha has given a safe cut-off of 10000rpm for a stock bike.
The cam that Yamaha is offering has lower lift and duration than what I have in my engine. FYI, I already have the same Yamaha performance kit cam at home
About the performance part. When Sanjay Tripathi was interviewed at the MMSC track during the launch, he claimed its making over 30% than the stock engine. So isnt that a simple math? So if Sanjay comments that, thats the word from Yamaha as well.Last edited by Joel; 07-23-2009, 03:38 PM.sigpic
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i doubt sanjay guy knows much if at all anything about bikes, some one shd ask this guy how much power r1 makes at the dyno to test his knowledge about sports bikesOriginally posted by Joel View PostDo you think the advertised 17ps is true? No maker quotes the right value. Dyno results reveal the true picture.
The ECU has a higher cut-off and the curve from the ride report was more or less the same with a slightly higher ignition advance. It sure revs higher, but that engine wont last too long.
The piston speed of an R15 coz of its super sexy long stroke at 10000rpm is 19.5ms. At 13000rpm its gets to 25.4ms. Thats as much as a motogp bike!!!!!
So now you know how much an R15 engine will last and why Yamaha does not recommend this for street use? And why Yamaha has given a safe cut-off of 10000rpm for a stock bike.
The cam that Yamaha is offering has lower lift and duration than what I have in my engine. FYI, I already have the same Yamaha performance kit cam at home
About the performance part. When Sanjay Tripathi was interviewed at the MMSC track during the launch, he claimed its making over 30% than the stock engine. So isnt that a simple math? So if Sanjay comments that, thats the word from Yamaha as well.sigpic
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Man, I almost forgot the Piston Speed issue, thinking that it would never occur in Indian bikes. How wrong I was?
But on streets, I doubt we would rev beyond 11k, even if the limiter allows it. So, its use at your own risk or something...
I went to Yamaha showroom and he is ready to get the kit installed, but refuses to give warranty information, saying that he himself in unaware what will happen.
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@ Joel: Bro, I read somewhere that 24 M/S is the danger limit for street bikes, but it was for the Hayabusa (which is at 24.1 M/S). So, isn't the R15 "relatively" safer at 12,000 rpm than that?
and secondly, where would be the Maximum Power spot after installing this kit? I mean, at what rpm approx.?---
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^piston speed is applicable for any piston driven engine in the world. How does it not matter to an Indian bike?
Who will not rev an engine past 11k, when its allowing the rider to taste 12-13k?
24ms is way too high for a street reliable engine. Lets not about about a busa and compare with an R15. Thats something else. I dont know where you read that and your internet gyaan is more than a motoGP engineer anyways. So I guess we have to look upto you for more ideas
A higher piston speed on an engine like the R15 with a puny 14mm wrist pin etc is a little bit of a suicide mission. No wonder Yamaha is not giving warranty with the kit. The secret of longetivity of any long stroke engine is by keeping the revs low. You cant expect a karizma to do 12000rpm and yet be street reliable. Manufacturers are very smart and they know what their configuration is capable of.
There will be no gain in peak power by simply bumping the ignition cut-off. Since Yamaha has shoved a cam and they have a slightly advanced ECU and a freeflow, peak power should more or less be around 9.5k.sigpic
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^ I see. Well, I compared R15 because I thought its the R125 unit, atleast in cylinder thickness.
Personally, I won't touch 12krpm on street, if power is at 8.5k (unless its top gear). But, I guess other bikers do ...
Around 9.5k? I see. Thanks for the reply.
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@joel will the perfomance kit harm the bike ? i am going to use it for street not for track but just i want a boost for my bike so i am going to put performance kit !pulsar 150 - 02
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U guys really dont read the forums properly, dont you ???? on an average its been repeated every now and then that these are just for performance on the race track and not for d streets. have you ever heard that the bike which is running in moto gp is being used for the streets too by the rider ? no, its just for performance on tracks not off it, n yes these kits aint gonna bring reliability to your engine if used generally.Comment
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has any one read the new bike india issue which seems to have some info on modded fz airbox ,
on one tv channel they said airbox is not modded & now bike india is claming airbox is moded , if it really is they shd remove the seat for everyone to seesigpic
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ohh!! so yamaha is going to sell it on the basis of use it at your own riskOriginally posted by Joel View Post^piston speed is applicable for any piston driven engine in the world. How does it not matter to an Indian bike?
Who will not rev an engine past 11k, when its allowing the rider to taste 12-13k?
24ms is way too high for a street reliable engine. Lets not about about a busa and compare with an R15. Thats something else. I dont know where you read that and your internet gyaan is more than a motoGP engineer anyways. So I guess we have to look upto you for more ideas
A higher piston speed on an engine like the R15 with a puny 14mm wrist pin etc is a little bit of a suicide mission. No wonder Yamaha is not giving warranty with the kit. The secret of longetivity of any long stroke engine is by keeping the revs low. You cant expect a karizma to do 12000rpm and yet be street reliable. Manufacturers are very smart and they know what their configuration is capable of.
There will be no gain in peak power by simply bumping the ignition cut-off. Since Yamaha has shoved a cam and they have a slightly advanced ECU and a freeflow, peak power should more or less be around 9.5k.?
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I guess I have posted previously above and in the last page mentions clearly about it. Please read!!!!!!!Originally posted by pulsar_flame View Postsigpic
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