No separate cell , atleast they didnt tell us and we did not ask specifically. All they said "specific" trained people will deal with it.

Didn't ask about octane no. of fuel reqd , I think with that compression ratio , it should be higher than 91.

On finance stuff , they said yeah it should be available when the bookings starts , just like we have for other bikes.

how I missed this thread .......

coooooooool........ just called Hyd PBK........ its not available before october....... a good news at the end of the day........

well i mean u r getting a twni cylinder bike first time in india...which is killer in almost all aspect regarding to india.so tht way...

abt my r1...its grey n here the scandal got busted..sarvajit knows abt tat....latterz...

People with the cash and the intent will go ahead and buy whatever the price.. and I for one.. feel the sales will be 10 times that of busa+r1+'blade combined (at least) every year for the Ninja..

60-70% people on this thread are cribbing about the price.. I am quite new here.. but i feel the same comments must have happened when the R-15 was first announced. Just have a look at its sales figures now.

This is gonna be the first "properly supported" 250 available in India in the modern era and.. as in 2009(end i suppose), this the only option we have if we want a proper performance sports-bike which is enough for any Indian Road (looking at real road situations) capable of keeping up with any litre class currently available in the country on any twisty.

People, just because in our country, we have been getting 223cc bikes for the last 7 yrs(is it?) does'nt undermine the fact that this is the BEST VFM 250cc money can buy.

As for the pricing.. i wont be surprised if BAL get a MoU of sorts with Kawasaki till 2010/2011 and start manufacturing locally and selling the baby for <2lac... BAL has always given us the best VFM and I wont be surprised if it continues its tradition of affordable superior technology. BAL made the other manufacturers pull up their socks in 2001.. and they will continue to provide us Path Breaking tech at affordable(for those who really desire it) prices.

Finally.. I hope all of India welcomes the new age 250s with deep pockets and high volumes. And others follow suit in bringing on tough competition for Baby Ninja.. Because the ultimate winner in all of this scenario is the BHP-starved Indian biker...

Very well said, buddy!

Very well said... Have to agree everybit of it...

Thanks. so that's bad news. In the meanwhile I looked up a pdf which listed the items being negotiated for duty relaxation under the FTA and motorcycles or any motor vehicles are absent from the list. I guess the indian automobile lobby managed to convince the commerce ministry to keep them off the list. So this is worse news.
Anyway, the follwing links to an article in bike india that was published about a year ago ASEAN, India signs FTA at AEM meeting in Thailand _English_Xinhua.

This says that the price of this bike was approx 1.4 lakhs in US at that time. It also goes on to say that if CKD route is followed the bike could end up being sold for about 1.7 lakhs. I would take this with a pinch of salt. However, if the price for US is true then even if we factor in the difference in exchange rates at the time of publishing this article and the inflation (or deflation due to the downturn), I guess 2 lakh would be a pretty good price. However, I am only basing this on an year old article in bike india and extrapolating it by assuming that the CKD route would entail about 30% duty.
1.4 lakh + 30% duty works out as 1.82 lakh. Anyway, am not sure if I have taken the correct base price though

wow..my IC engines 3 credit elective is all coming back to my memory!!..
those were the days....er...wait a minute!!..i just studied that course a year back....lolz...

Please read the below assumptions (purely mine)&tell me does the 3 lakh figure make sense?
The price in Thailand baht itself is about 140-150,000 baht, which makes it around 2 lakhs INR.
So, add 20% for the duty charges, considering the FTA between India&Thailand, bike will be a CKD etc.etc.
Brings us to 2.4L INR.
Add a meagre 20K profit to it (I know this is more considering Bajaj will not get it at 2L INR from Kawasaki, considering their alliances&understanding for making parts for Kawasaki smaller bikes etc.) but still, that brings us to 2.6 lakhs INR.
Even if you consider this as the ex-showroom price, 2.6L : Add atleast 15% for OTR price, considering lifetax etc.formalities, that brings us to a round figure of almost 3 lakhs.
So, I look at it this way: Bajaj is selling us this product at only a 15% profit margin&taking all the other pains to get it approved, serviced etc.
I know that major amount of money is earned through service&spares, but kudos to Bajaj for bringing this product and encouraging the biking spirit for the common man in India!

I am glad you are too.

But I understand and knew (without the complex calculations), that reducing compression ratio meant reduction in power a bit. That was my question exactly. Anyways, I too agree with you that that Bajaj would not fiddle around too much with the engine. And I'm quite sure they would emphasize Octane 91 fuel for this bike.

@niks: Yes, it is getting underestimated. I don't think RD will run rings around this in a straight line. Not at all.

BAL is taking a big risk by walking into unchartered 250 territory at such less margins considering costs involved in training or service personnel, equipment etc. And they would have to provide these services at all PBK service centers regardless of sales volumes.

The least we could do is stop cribbing about the analog speedo... if you love digital so much.. could we have a vote..

How many members here wear digital watches?

As for the looks.. till 2007, the Ninja did look like a glorified Adreno.. but looks have been updated greatly since then.. (Hence the price increase to USD $3999 = Rs.1,94,674.326 {Today's exchange rate:google} for US carb edition.)

For more details check following link.

Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

P.S.: The Thailand edition has a fuel gauge instead of temperature.

rightly said....... in other thread 'What Next' people who were left with no choice after ZMA or P220, they are getting an option ........ n for us its like give me more ........ we want n Bajaj is thr to provide it......... at last after a long wait........ or maybe we have to wait for few more months.......

yes the price seems higher in Indian perspective but then again we are getting an option......... n if your calculations are right(m also thinking same), the price seems to be ok........

is the speedo still analogue??

While I support the pricing of 3L, if only because it is caused due to taxes and not because Bajaj decided to inflate the price tag and take us for a ride, have you looked at your equations backward?

1000cc bike = 12L
250cc bike = 3L
150cc bike = 1.8L
100cc bike 1.2L

Now? Sane? Ofcourse these prices are insane, only stop blaming Bajaj/Kawa. If we buy these bikes in droves, Bajaj may just start building these beauties in India and bring prices down to sane level! So, folks buy out these first few lots and enjoy the solid Japanese (actually Thai) quality! We, poor folks may then just hope to get a similar twin cylinder bike at sane prices, a year or 2 down the road.

If BAL sources are to be believed , then they are making insanely low profit on this bike. And of course we can't expect a company to go in a loss just to get more customers .