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**antz.bin** · 08-21-2009, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

If BAL sources are to be believed , then they are making insanely low profit on this bike. And of course we can't expect a company to go in a loss just to get more customers .

They are just hoping they can get their lost market share back from the others. Time to pull up your socks again Mr.Munjal...

**shaggy25** · 08-21-2009, 06:08 PM

Seriously i think much has been discussed about the pricing (and bajaj cant help it much, since its coming as a CBU

)..its tym to concentrate on the bike..so how do you guys think its gonna fair on our roads...the bike's clearence looks quite low... and yes in the end i think its a step "forward"

**niks_devil666** · 08-21-2009, 06:10 PM

FYI.... CKD not a CBU.

BTW , I give up . Out of this thread now .

**Samarth 619** · 08-21-2009, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by PRATIK322 View Post

is the speedo still analogue??

yes! unfortunately ...

**shaggy25** · 08-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

FYI.... CKD not a CBU.

BTW , I give up . Out of this thread now .

Thank you niks

... somehow i misd it i guess..

**samschenker** · 08-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

BAL is taking a big risk by walking into unchartered 250 territory at such less margins considering costs involved in training or service personnel, equipment etc. And they would have to provide these services at all PBK service centers regardless of sales volumes.

The least we could do is stop cribbing about the analog speedo... if you love digital so much.. could we have a vote..

How many members here wear digital watches?

As for the looks.. till 2007, the Ninja did look like a glorified Adreno.. but looks have been updated greatly since then.. (Hence the price increase to USD $3999 = Rs.1,94,674.326 {Today's exchange rate:google} for US carb edition.)

For more details check following link.

Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

P.S.: The Thailand edition has a fuel gauge instead of temperature.

I do wear a digital wrist watch & don't own a analog one (can be one of the very few rare guys)

But when it comes to Bikes I prefer analog meters, just love the analog meters (Just like Santa has mentioned)

**Lost Soul** · 08-21-2009, 06:17 PM

Lot of anger it seems in thread ,
the comparison between digi speedo and digi watches is kinda right yet amusing . i remember when i was in 5th class a Digital watch was a thing to kill for.
even the mighty busa had a supposedly boring looking speedo some time back .
3 lakhs is fine ,its not as if bajaj is overpricing it . taxes are there and must be followed . live with it or become a politician and reduce them .

there are many ppl who have 3-4 lakh budgets and look for superbikes. the only option to them is buying 4-5 years old bikes and then many are not legal and are in bad state . the full legal ones are quite high even second hand . Ninja will bring peace of mind , enough power and easy avail. of spares and 3 lakhs to me seems fine. only those who dont have money are cribbing . if you can afford 2.5 then 3 is just a little higher . If there was no Ninja here the competition wont think of getting their own 250s

**princesirohi** · 08-21-2009, 06:26 PM

i think this ninja should come bith a beutiful backlit digital console.......and in some sober colours like black, blue, red.......and definitely not the green it is shown in....

**pads** · 08-21-2009, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by L.P. View Post

P.S: [Attachment1]
Courtesy: BikePics.com

which is the correct console...... two different types

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**Lost Soul** · 08-21-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by pads View Post

which is the correct console...... two different types

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abe wo console hayabusa ka hai

, didnt u see the max 280 kmph written there ?

Even hayabusa had similar lookin one . these fully digi speedos are liked more by the Bling-poser -crowd

**hash101** · 08-21-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Please read the below assumptions (purely mine)&tell me does the 3 lakh figure make sense?
The price in Thailand baht itself is about 140-150,000 baht, which makes it around 2 lakhs INR.
So, add 20% for the duty charges, considering the FTA between India&Thailand, bike will be a CKD etc.etc.
Brings us to 2.4L INR.
Add a meagre 20K profit to it (I know this is more considering Bajaj will not get it at 2L INR from Kawasaki, considering their alliances&understanding for making parts for Kawasaki smaller bikes etc.) but still, that brings us to 2.6 lakhs INR.
Even if you consider this as the ex-showroom price, 2.6L : Add atleast 15% for OTR price, considering lifetax etc.formalities, that brings us to a round figure of almost 3 lakhs.
So, I look at it this way: Bajaj is selling us this product at only a 15% profit margin&taking all the other pains to get it approved, serviced etc.
I know that major amount of money is earned through service&spares, but kudos to Bajaj for bringing this product and encouraging the biking spirit for the common man in India!

Your calculations are spot on except for just one small thing. The 140-150k cost in thailand would probably the marked up price and it must be inclusive of kawasaki's profit margins. I guess bajaj would be getting it much cheaper from kawasaki. So I think you can knock about 5-10% off your estimate.
Does that mean that the base price that I took was wrong and 1.4 lakh INR is not the price of ninja 250 in US? I think we must also look at purchasing power parity when comparing prices with other countries. sort of like even though McDonald's serves the same burger the world over, yet there's a huge difference between the price in India and the price in US. So much so that the price of a McD burger has almost become a pretty accurate and relevant indicator of the comparative purchasing power of a country.
And with the downturn setting in, there must be a drop in kawa's sales. I hope the biggies at kawa see this as an opportunity to boost their sales by entering a potentially huge market and so, decide to supply these babies to bajaj at a neat cut!

**pads** · 08-21-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Lost Soul View Post

abe wo console hayabusa ka hai

, didnt u see the max 280 kmph written there ?

Even hayabusa had similar lookin one . these fully digi speedos are liked more by the Bling-poser -crowd

thanx

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**Sarvajit** · 08-21-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by hash101 View Post

Your calculations are spot on except for just one small thing. The 140-150k cost in thailand would probably the marked up price and it must be inclusive of kawasaki's profit margins. I guess bajaj would be getting it much cheaper from kawasaki. So I think you can knock about 5-10% off your estimate.
Does that mean that the base price that I took was wrong and 1.4 lakh INR is not the price of ninja 250 in US? I think we must also look at purchasing power parity when comparing prices with other countries. sort of like even though McDonald's serves the same burger the world over, yet there's a huge difference between the price in India and the price in US. So much so that the price of a McD burger has almost become a pretty accurate and relevant indicator of the comparative purchasing power of a country.
And with the downturn setting in, there must be a drop in kawa's sales. I hope the biggies at kawa see this as an opportunity to boost their sales by entering a potentially huge market and so, decide to supply these babies to bajaj at a neat cut!

Right, I even mentioned that Bajaj would be getting at a lower cost than Kawa's selling price obviously, coz they have various agreements&understandings of parts etc.between them.
I didn't consider the US price, coz we all know the bikes are coming (or rather came a year back) from Thailand!

**sabka_baap** · 08-21-2009, 06:55 PM

for those who call it a beginner's bike

for those who call it a beginner's bike...

"if you're not having fun on the Ninja250R, the problem lies with the rider..."
MCN
@niks: absolutely agree with you, it is being underestimated...

**Sarvajit** · 08-21-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by sabka_baap View Post

for those who call it a beginner's bike...

"if you're not having fun on the Ninja250R, the problem lies with the rider..."
MCN
@niks: absolutely agree with you, it is being underestimated...

@sabka_baap: Welcome to xBhp!

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