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  • snapppy
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    Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
    Nice one man.

    That guy would be ME & You
    So wont u guys appreciate it, say if tomorrow HH brings out Karizma 250 just because u loose exclusivity??

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  • vipin_s
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    Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
    By your logic you should call all of:
    Standard series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-150RR
    * The Japan-only Kawasaki ZXR250 was sometimes rebranded as a Ninja ZX-2R by importers
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-7R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-8R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-9R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-11R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-12R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14


    Race-Replica series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR


    GP series

    * Kawasaki Ninja 250R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 500R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 650R
    According to me: at least Pulsars differ and have exclusivity among themselves .
    Ninjas (pulsars)
    > Difference b/w lowest cc and highest cc is 1105cc (85cc)
    > Difference b/w basic and top model is whole 'two' cylinders (ZERO)
    > Difference in top speed b/w basic and top model is about 150 kmph (20kmph)
    > Ninjas have evolved over 25+ years and are best known performance bikes in the world (6 years, 5 models, 2-4 upgrades on each model, ...............)
    Last edited by vipin_s; 11-26-2009, 05:21 PM. Reason: edit

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  • spiderweb
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    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    I will give one example.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Karizma'. I can see in his face the 'wow' feeling immediately recognizing the 'big, powerful bike'.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Pulsar'. I can see confusion in his face, he would still be thinking which pulsar it is. You need to say mine is a P220, P200, or a P150, or a P135. I am loosing exclusivity here.

    Strategically the move may be good by Bajaj, but a part of bikers would definitely want some exclusivity and they would not be happy with this move.

    Guys, there is no brand war here. Just an example.
    Nice one man.

    That guy would be ME & You

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  • yash.rsa
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    Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
    .. I didn't know it is that powerful than even lower capcity bikes: P180 or A180 .. BIG .. yeah sure .. I can understand this bit.


    That is surely there and you can definitely avoid that if you answer P200 or P220.
    Karizma also have/had multiple versions: Karizma, Karizma-R, Karizma Sport, Karizma ZMR - the fact that they don't differ much - does not mean that they are same and exclusive.

    By your logic you should call all of:
    Standard series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-150RR
    * The Japan-only Kawasaki ZXR250 was sometimes rebranded as a Ninja ZX-2R by importers
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-7R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-8R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-9R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-11R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-12R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14


    Race-Replica series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR


    GP series

    * Kawasaki Ninja 250R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 500R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 650R


    as Kawasaki ninja and hope people say "WOW", big machine ... and see here engine varies from 150CC to almost 1400CC.

    So I am not totally sure what does that mean?
    Does that mean that all Karizma are same even after 5-6(whatever)yrs of inception and HH doesn't upgrade/downgrade(or at least change) them? They just gave same bike with different names on the name of exclusivity?
    Or Pulsar is a good brand of bikes in different categories? They gave good bikes in different category under a single brand name.

    According to me: at least Pulsars differ and have exclusivity among themselves .
    Couldnt have said any better...!

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  • Thunder
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    ^^^^

    And thats the Reason Bajaj and Kawasaki are Partners

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  • chauhan_saurabh
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    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    I will give one example.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Karizma'. I can see in his face the 'wow' feeling immediately recognizing the 'big, powerful bike'.
    .. I didn't know it is that powerful than even lower capcity bikes: P180 or A180 .. BIG .. yeah sure .. I can understand this bit.

    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Pulsar'. I can see confusion in his face, he would still be thinking which pulsar it is. You need to say mine is a P220, P200, or a P150, or a P135. I am loosing exclusivity here.
    That is surely there and you can definitely avoid that if you answer P200 or P220.
    Karizma also have/had multiple versions: Karizma, Karizma-R, Karizma Sport, Karizma ZMR - the fact that they don't differ much - does not mean that they are same and exclusive.

    By your logic you should call all of:
    Standard series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-150RR
    * The Japan-only Kawasaki ZXR250 was sometimes rebranded as a Ninja ZX-2R by importers
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-7R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-8R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-9R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-11R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-12R
    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14


    Race-Replica series

    * Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR


    GP series

    * Kawasaki Ninja 250R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 500R
    * Kawasaki Ninja 650R


    as Kawasaki ninja and hope people say "WOW", big machine ... and see here engine varies from 150CC to almost 1400CC.

    So I am not totally sure what does that mean?
    Does that mean that all Karizma are same even after 5-6(whatever)yrs of inception and HH doesn't upgrade/downgrade(or at least change) them? They just gave same bike with different names on the name of exclusivity?
    Or Pulsar is a good brand of bikes in different categories? They gave good bikes in different category under a single brand name.

    According to me: at least Pulsars differ and have exclusivity among themselves .

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  • vipin_s
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    Originally posted by moeed View Post
    Has the xcd 135 also been phased out?
    Correction...XCD125 was phased out when XCD135 was launched...as far as XCD135, it will be phased out to make way for P135....but they may do it after a while....b'cos it was launched just few months ago.

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  • amandeepkamboj19
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    What i have noticed that PULSAR no more represent a bike rather a range of bikes

    So now stop saying that i have a pulsar just say P180, P220Fi, P150, P200, P220dtsi, P135
    This will maintain the exclusivity of big bore pulsars

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  • satan69in
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    Originally posted by gauravbalu View Post
    atleast it is better than an array of bikes with different stickers / colored paints.. and 237.59cc is better than a 'limited edition' dual-color rims

    what i feel is atleast a customer has wide variety of bikes in a brand to choose from depending on his pocket...and every bike has some technical difference unlike the colours or body parts...like whats the difference between fz fzs and fazer in technical aspects??? all are the same and look at the price range...

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  • moeed
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    Originally posted by crazy_NJ View Post
    Hello, Bajaj has already phased out XCD...
    Has the xcd 135 also been phased out?

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  • gauravbalu
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    Originally posted by ron_7933 View Post
    You know sometimes I wonder.. in some years, when we'll have kids and they grow up, Bajaj will offer them an array of Pulsars to choose from.. starting from Pulsar 100 followed by 105, 110, 115 and this A.P. would go upto a maximum of 250. I'm eagerly waiting for the limited edition 237.59 cc engine!!
    atleast it is better than an array of bikes with different stickers / colored paints.. and 237.59cc is better than a 'limited edition' dual-color rims

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  • ron_7933
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    You know sometimes I wonder.. in some years, when we'll have kids and they grow up, Bajaj will offer them an array of Pulsars to choose from.. starting from Pulsar 100 followed by 105, 110, 115 and this A.P. would go upto a maximum of 250. I'm eagerly waiting for the limited edition 237.59 cc engine!!

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  • dual disc 200
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    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    I will give one example.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Karizma'. I can see in his face the 'wow' feeling immediately recognizing the 'big, powerful bike'.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Pulsar'. I can see confusion in his face, he would still be thinking which pulsar it is. You need to say mine is a P220, P200, or a P150, or a P135. I am loosing exclusivity here.

    Strategically the move may be good by Bajaj, but a part of bikers would definitely want some exclusivity and they are not definitely happy with this move.

    Guys, there is no brand war here. Just an example.
    Very True!

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  • ravi@17bhp
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    I will give one example.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Karizma'. I can see in his face the 'wow' feeling immediately recognizing the 'big, powerful bike'.

    Somebody asks me 'what is your bike' and I say 'Pulsar'. I can see confusion in his face, he would still be thinking which pulsar it is. You need to say mine is a P220, P200, or a P150, or a P135. I am loosing exclusivity here.

    Strategically the move may be good by Bajaj, but a part of bikers would definitely want some exclusivity and they would not be happy with this move.

    Guys, there is no brand war here. Just an example.
    Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 11-26-2009, 04:01 PM.

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  • satan69in
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    Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
    I never got this "commonness crib", if there is a bike which is good then how can one decide not to buy just because it is common. If that's the case then Activa could have been out of business as you find almost every other scooter an Activa.

    I agree that they could have named it some other name, but they just wanted people to at least be receptive about this bike as they might have found hard to establish new brand name like XCD while discover did wonder even if they decreased the engine size.

    So they names pulsar to get some attention otherwise how many of us discussing about TVS Jive


    ditto,i find it rather silly when people just say thet its common and doodhwala ,this that wala has the bike...let them have it dude...what matters is wether you have it or not and you are maintaining it better than others or not..if anyone wants to be exclusive tthey can always go for sbks

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