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As an effort to further deviate this thread more OT than it already is, for what its worth - I vote for TVS 50,Originally posted by vijith.unnithan View PostBrat.. yeah.. i am done.. i am sure there will be a post with the same.. this time comparing TVS 50 and a Hayabusa :-)
1) TVS 50 has kick start and Hayabusa does not even have kick start, i mean what kinda cheap design is that???
2) If you run out of fuel, the older TVS 50's can be pedaled home, busa has no pedals, then why is it so overpriced?
4) TVS 50's sales numbers are too high compared to busa and needless to say its the better option.
5) You were too busy reading another insensible post, you never noticed point #3 was missing.
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LOL... more like it...Originally posted by Brat View PostAs an effort to further deviate this thread more OT than it already is, for what its worth - I vote for TVS 50,
1) TVS 50 has kick start and Hayabusa does not even have kick start, i mean what kinda cheap design is that???
2) If you run out of fuel, the older TVS 50's can be pedaled home, busa has no pedals, then why is it so overpriced?
4) TVS 50's sales numbers are too high compared to busa and needless to say its the better option.
5) You were too busy reading another insensible post, you never noticed point #3 was missing.
back to the topic.. any pricing that is confirmed...
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im strictly sticking to the point of the thread ... as i am tired of convincing ppl that CBR is wonderful bike and GT250R is dream come true bike...even so called R4 from Yamaha [being hardcore Yam fan]comes with price of GTR/Ninja i still go with Hyo... i have my reasons for thatOriginally posted by vijith.unnithan View PostLOL... more like it...
back to the topic.. any pricing that is confirmed...
, coz GTR perfectly meet MY requirements.
I Trust the Telegraph daily which reported that GTR and GV250 will be releasing with price tag of 2.35 to 2.65L ex-showroom .. now don't know which one is which price range .. for me 2.35L is sweet .. and 2.65L is slightly overprice of 20K more .. nothing else ..nothing u can do
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will they be coming out with the naked 250... or they planning to bring in just the GV250...Originally posted by nagoo View Postim strictly sticking to the point of the thread ... as i am tired of convincing ppl that CBR is wonderful bike and GT250R is dream come true bike...even so called R4 from Yamaha [being hardcore Yam fan]comes with price of GTR/Ninja i still go with Hyo... i have my reasons for that
, coz GTR perfectly meet MY requirements.
I Trust the Telegraph daily which reported that GTR and GV250 will be releasing with price tag of 2.35 to 2.65L ex-showroom .. now don't know which one is which price range .. for me 2.35L is sweet .. and 2.65L is slightly overprice of 20K more .. nothing else ..nothing u can do
i will be more interested in the spares.. just waiting :P
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Ok, Guys one more update..
The bike is with OVERDRIVE for the review .. and they have posted a quick look at GT250R .. it looks really really awesome with this paint scheme
although OVERDRIVE guy [video presenter]don;t have any idea about bikes and he couldn't explain most of the things apart from looks .. my strong gut feeling is that the price will be 2.65L ex-show which is a lil bit [20k] overpriced
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from the looks the build and fit and finish looks very good compared to older generation comets.. seems like this month its gonna launch
Power = 28PS
2012 Hyosung GT250R walkaround - OVERDRIVE - YouTubeLast edited by nagoo; 05-07-2012, 03:31 PM.
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Thought they had the exhausts like the 650 but tends to be like the old ones...Originally posted by nagoo View PostOk, Guys one more update..
The bike is with OVERDRIVE for the review .. and they have posted a quick look at GT250R .. it looks really really awesome with this paint scheme
although OVERDRIVE guy [video presenter]don;t have any idea about bikes and he couldn't explain most of the things apart from looks .. my strong gut feeling is that the price will be 2.65L ex-show which is a lil bit [20k] overpriced
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from the looks the build and fit and finish looks very good compared to older generation comets.. seems like this month its gonna launch
Power = 28PS
Last edited by vijith.unnithan; 05-07-2012, 03:42 PM.
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well, atleast we agree the price should not be more than 2.35Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostCBR ABS is over priced, a vTwin is a different breed, besides the bike looks visibly much bigger (and may I say better) than the VFRish honda...
For an average joe, the big bik USP would make it sell, but not if its priced too close to the grand daddy of all quarter litres...
Anything southwards of 2.35 and its pretty smart.
Atleast Alantris is trying to be fair and neutral unlike other "Enthusiasts"
Pun - Consequential but Intentional
PS: Fazer 250, Gixxer 250, Something tells me he isnt from this country.
first of all, brand value does matter.Originally posted by yellowspunk View PostThe mentality in this thread seems to be that Kwasaki being a better brand/bike can be allowed to be priced higher while Hyosung which is a brand/bike of lower value should be prices lower.
What if.. Hyosung thinks the current 250 market has a all-rounder, sports-tourer but not a sports bike?!
What if.. Hyosung thinks or is actually justified in pricing its 250 the same as the ninja or higher? while currently everyone here is talking lower and lower!
Hyosung mind you has already priced its 650 higher than the ninja, it dint go for a price cut even after the ninja announcement.
What if they have justified the cost since they have a sale-able product in hand, a bike committed to sporty riding while the rest of the market is cruisers or sports tourers in the 650 segment.
Note that handling is relative. A guy who rides a cruiser will find a sports bike handling a bit "loose" while a sports bike guy will find a cruiser to be an elephant, not nimble enough ! Ofcourse quality can vary but then a nano just cause its 2lacs doesnt fall apart compared to a honda civic. In the end, the GT250 might be priced the same as the ninja.
The above is just a general observation, i havent ridden any of these bikes !
second GT250r is neither an all rounder nor a sports tourer, check out the riding stance first.
a 2 lac rupees nano does not fall apart as compared to your civic, but there's a hell lot of difference in costs of a nano and civic....err...wrong example...or i understood it incorrect.
well said.Originally posted by payeng View PostEvery product needs a USP (Unique Selling Proposition) to stand apart from the competiting products and attract potential customers.
USP for CBR250R: Honda brand, "Perception" of quality, Lowest sticker price (among current 250s), good straight line performance
USP for Ninja250R: Kawasaki/Ninja badge, without any doubt the best 250 cc bike in the world to ride
USP for the GT250R: Big bike/Super bike look alike, Super bike like ergonomics, Non - Super bike price (??)*
*: Now how much would be that price would determine how attractive the GT250R would be as a proposition.
Originally posted by Brat View PostVijith - Let it go mate... you know what to do
Originally posted by vijith.unnithan View PostBrat.. yeah.. i am done.. i am sure there will be a post with the same.. this time comparing TVS 50 and a Hayabusa :-)guys plz don't make fun of other people because they think GT250r should come cheaper.Originally posted by Brat View PostAs an effort to further deviate this thread more OT than it already is, for what its worth - I vote for TVS 50,
1) TVS 50 has kick start and Hayabusa does not even have kick start, i mean what kinda cheap design is that???
2) If you run out of fuel, the older TVS 50's can be pedaled home, busa has no pedals, then why is it so overpriced?
4) TVS 50's sales numbers are too high compared to busa and needless to say its the better option.
5) You were too busy reading another insensible post, you never noticed point #3 was missing.
if you wanna purchase it for a crore also, nobody gives a damn, but if it comes cheaper, won't it be benificial to all.
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Bike looks sweet
Its possible for them to price it under 2lac only if the parts are localized,CBR is affordable only because its manufactured here.I guess all of us know the reason for the price being on the higher side so there is no point in arguing about it(no offence to anyone
) .We really need multi-cylinder for our market, at least Hyosung was bold enough to introduce bikes which are unique in its segment,Gt650 being one of the first 600-1000cc sports bike and gt250 being first v-twin in 250cc.
Biker @ heart
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OT for the last time..Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
guys plz don't make fun of other people because they think GT250r should come cheaper.
if you wanna purchase it for a crore also, nobody gives a damn, but if it comes cheaper, won't it be benificial to all.
@ Prince.. i dont think i was making fun but clearly the intention of this thread is being marred to put the GT as a cheap piece of metal.. It may be overpriced but there are people who wants it.. by comparing and just sticking to one point will not help...
Peace...
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Does that mean that an air+oil-cooled 250 cc v-twin engine produces more heat than an air-cooled 1200 cc engine? And if you take the fairings off, it produces less heat? Do the Hyosung fairings come with built-in induction plates to bake the engine? lol. Now there's an experiment I would like to conduct.Originally posted by MADCATR View PostI differ on this. You are comparing naked bikes (Harley, Monster...) to a full fairing GT250R here (not comet 250). Air cooled on a naked bike works, I have spent good amount of my life on Bullet and Harleys and Its manageable .
Riding the GT250 in a highway peak traffic in California summer did almost fry my balls. Thats the day I returned my friend's GT250. Your statement holds true for Comet 250 not for the new GT250 R.
I seriously doubt you even ride bikes coz If you are that sensitive to heat, you would be riding around in cars. I infer from your statement that you've never owned a GT250/R then?
It seems you have a highly acute perception of heat. Either that or the thermostat in my thighs is conked. Because while riding in choc-a-block Delhi traffic, I could never tell a difference in cooling between my faired GT250R (GT250 converted to R) and my naked one.



Also, to answer others' queries, I'm very much from and in India. Thought I've been to places.
Furthermore, contrary to what may appear, I'm not a Hyo fanboy. Far from it, believe me. I'm as much a hyo Fanboy as much I'm a honda or megelli fanboy. Have I ever bashed the honda or the kawa or any other bike at any point in this thread? The things which I've said are good on this bike, are good in my book. But every closet has skeletons and these are the bad ones in these bikes:
The electrical system on these bikes is s**t. This is the achilles of these bikes. Also, the wheels on these machines weigh a ton. And these are the 2 things you should be looking at working on first. Sadly, there's not much you can do about the wheels.
Over the years, the only problems I've had with the bikes are all related to electrical. Considering Hyos abilities in electronics in question, I believe the efi versions would have even bigger issues. And hence my paranoia about the efi versions earlier.
Mechanically, the 250s are a much more reliable setup than the 650s. The engines are pretty much bullet-proof and keep going strong for long.
There are issues with these bikes, but the ones which seem to be the point of contention i.e. cooling and an extra gear, are not issues at all in my book. And that is something you realize only when you spend time on the bikes, rather than on the spec sheet.
There's something you learn about a particular motorcycle when you own, ride, mod and maintain 2 of them without any support from anywhere through the years. All my opinions come from my ownership experience, no more, no less. You can either choose to accept that, or keep scouring the net for more baseless rumors based on hearsay.
Signing off. Peace out!
Last edited by Alantris; 05-07-2012, 06:40 PM.
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@ alantris: why are you hammering it so hard that you look like a hyosung company sales and marketing person. chill man.
whenever a new bike is launched, it will be discussed and criticized for bad things and appraised for good things.
its good that hyosung is bringing in a 250 CC bike, and its more good that it comes with dual front disks, V-twin motor, projector headlamps & lots of other features.
but based on riders opinion outside india where this bike is already selling and reading reviews online, we got to know a few negatives- like those dual front disks are not too great, v-twin engine is not liquid cooled, projector headlamps does not illuminate road as good as a good quality projector should.
we are not calling it junk, but every bike has good and bad things. you got to accept it and move on. if you are happy with it and have the money- buy it otherwise move on.
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Hyosung GT250R first ride
Overdrive posted the Hyosung GT250R first ride report today.
No mention of FI here
Hyosung GT250R first ride - Overdrive
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