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**Deathwing** · 05-20-2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post

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A dream come true - My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: 2nd Service Update on page 20

So after a lot of thought, reading and research, I had finally decided to get the Akra for the bike. The key considerations were that I will only get the exhaust, even it being full system. I had spoken to Honda guys, read on CBR650 Forums and sent emails to Revzilla and Akra. The conclusion that I got is that this exhaust has been specifically designed to work reliably within the parameters of stock ECU. Running it with baffles with the stock ECU will not be an issue. For full potential one can get Power Commander and Air Filter, but even without them there will be no issues. I also rode the Honda test ride CBR650F in Delhi which had the exhaust installed.

I decided to get the exhaust from US as I was getting it around 11K cheaper there plus the genuineness was guaranteed.

My bike had clocked around 5300 Kms and I had missed the deadline of 2nd service from a time duration perspective by around 3 months. So thought of getting the service and exhaust done together.

As usual, extremely happy and satisfied with the work carried out by the Naraina Honda Wings. The more I experience them, the more I think I would never buy any other big bike except for Honda just because of them.

As part of Second Service:
They changed the Oil and Oil Filter.
Cleaned the Chain and lubed it.
Checked brakes and Clutch and various other nuts
Air Filter requires change at 15K. They said they they will clean it in the next service at 12K.

and then the Full System Install.

All in all it took 3 hours for the whole process.

I don't have the detailed bill Yet, but high level I paid 5500 for both the service and the exhaust Install. 3100 for the service, 2000 for the exhaust install and 400 taxes. Will share the bill once I have it.

Pretty reasonable I would say considering the quality of work and time and attention given to your loved bike.

Some early first short ride impressions:
1) It sounds just perfect with the baffles. Hardly any louder at idle and smooth cruising. Only louder when on the gas.
2) Bike feels even smoother. It does seem to have reduced the vibes also a bit.
3) Throttle response feels crisper and bike feels eager. Can be the exhaust note effect. But it does feel more eager now.
4) The fun factor has definitely gone up and the ride back home was nice even in 48 deg Delhi heat.
5) Cant comment on the reduced weight yet as I had the stock 11 KGs exhaust in a backpack on my back ready to fall at moments notice.

Will keep updating as I ride and explore more.

Sounds really lovely, its as if the bike is alive only now... And about more smoothness, do u feel a better eagerness in the bike, from what I've seen n read from reviews the low end on the stock CBR 650 is not as quick as the other 600s in the same category having said it is obviously an inline 4 n the power is in the top end, do you feel any major differences? Do keep updating on the longer term use, and bike looks really neat with the fender eliminator.

**rachitkdogra** · 05-20-2016, 02:54 AM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

Sounds really lovely, its as if the bike is alive only now... And about more smoothness, do u feel a better eagerness in the bike, from what I've seen n read from reviews the low end on the stock CBR 650 is not as quick as the other 600s in the same category having said it is obviously an inline 4 n the power is in the top end, do you feel any major differences? Do keep updating on the longer term use, and bike looks really neat with the fender eliminator.

Thanks bro.
Yup the fender eliminator does wonders to its looks.

The bike does feel more eager, not by leaps and bounds but it does feel more eager.
The problem with exhausts is that sometimes the louder exhaust fools your mind into believing you are going faster when you are not. But it does feel more eager.

I don't think any substantial power gains happen. I have seen the torque curve posted by Akra. Its 3.6 BHP gain at peak RPM. Lower down the range its around 1-2 BHP which is not much. Same for the torque. But honestly, beyond numbers it gives the feeling of more eager and the sense of speed is more so going through the revs gives more satisfaction. Earlier even high speeds didn't feel any special because it did it so fuss free. Now you get more experience out of it.

CHEERS!!

**Divya Sharan** · 05-20-2016, 10:27 AM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post

So after a lot of thought, reading and research, I had finally decided to get the Akra for the bike.

Congrats! This completes the package.
Can you share how much did just the Akra cost you alone?

Also, I have seen that aftermarket exhausts, be it IXIL or Akra run the bike a bit rich (from the exhaust release gases on medium to high revs)!

**Deathwing** · 05-20-2016, 11:07 AM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post

Thanks bro.
Yup the fender eliminator does wonders to its looks.

The bike does feel more eager, not by leaps and bounds but it does feel more eager.
The problem with exhausts is that sometimes the louder exhaust fools your mind into believing you are going faster when you are not. But it does feel more eager.

I don't think any substantial power gains happen. I have seen the torque curve posted by Akra. Its 3.6 BHP gain at peak RPM. Lower down the range its around 1-2 BHP which is not much. Same for the torque. But honestly, beyond numbers it gives the feeling of more eager and the sense of speed is more so going through the revs gives more satisfaction. Earlier even high speeds didn't feel any special because it did it so fuss free. Now you get more experience out of it.

CHEERS!!

I feel the need of exhaust in ur bike is vital,with the uncertain traffic conditions we got here In India, a louder exhaust can only help in my opinion, as divya has also said the air fuel ratios must be right in all Rev ranges, try to run ur bike on a dyno n see

**rachitkdogra** · 05-20-2016, 08:27 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Congrats! This completes the package.
Can you share how much did just the Akra cost you alone?

Also, I have seen that aftermarket exhausts, be it IXIL or Akra run the bike a bit rich (from the exhaust release gases on medium to high revs)!

Thanks bro!!
The exhaust costed me 953$. Which with all the extra charges put by credit card companies for International Transaction and all comes around to be 66K.
In India it retails for around 76K.

It is possible. Not completely sure if this one does it. It has been only a couple of days so cannot confirm if it releases gases in mid to high revs.
Although, I kind of feel a bit rich is not bad in our hot conditions? Maybe? Not really technically hands on enough to be sure. Although from what I have heard a bit richer is generally not that bad.

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

I feel the need of exhaust in ur bike is vital,with the uncertain traffic conditions we got here In India, a louder exhaust can only help in my opinion, as divya has also said the air fuel ratios must be right in all Rev ranges, try to run ur bike on a dyno n see

Yup, a louder exhaust does help brother.

I don't think there are any bike Dynos in Delhi bro.

Rachit

**Nithesh** · 05-20-2016, 09:36 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Congrats on the Akra. Did you buy the optional CAT?
Also, is that the single outlet? The quad outlet is for the street use, the single is for the track. The quad is the only one that can use the optional cat.

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

from what I've seen n read from reviews the low end on the stock CBR 650 is not as quick as the other 600s in the same category having said it is obviously an inline 4 n the power is in the top end

Its the other way around. No 600 Supersport has any juice below 6k rpm. They all have to be revved way higher than 7-8k to get them going fast enough. The 650 picks up from as low as 3k rpm to redline.
Hence why the 650 was built with a much lower redline than the 600 SS bikes.

**rachitkdogra** · 05-20-2016, 11:01 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Congrats on the Akra. Did you buy the optional CAT?
Also, is that the single outlet? The quad outlet is for the street use, the single is for the track. The quad is the only one that can use the optional cat.

Thanks bro!!
This is the single outlet one. I didn't knew that there were any differences between the both except for looks. I even checked it with Revzilla guys and they also said its only the looks. Not sure what is correct. I didn't get the optional Cat Con.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Its the other way around. No 600 Supersport has any juice below 6k rpm. They all have to be revved way higher than 7-8k to get them going fast enough. The 650 picks up from as low as 3k rpm to redline.
Hence why the 650 was built with a much lower redline than the 600 SS bikes.

Yes you are absolutely right here. CBR650F is torquer low down than the super sport one's.

**Nithesh** · 05-22-2016, 01:38 AM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post

Thanks bro!!
This is the single outlet one. I didn't knew that there were any differences between the both except for looks. I even checked it with Revzilla guys and they also said its only the looks. Not sure what is correct. I didn't get the optional Cat Con.

Yes you are absolutely right here. CBR650F is torquer low down than the super sport one's.

One owner at the forums said he was in regular touch with Akra guys via mail and they told him that the quad outlet was the one that can take in the optional CAT and it was generally what they sold for street use.
The quad outlet one sells at $1100+ while the single outlet sells for $900+ on Revzilla. I think Indian importers sell the quad exhaust for 10k more as you mentioned up there ^

**rachitkdogra** · 05-23-2016, 08:26 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

One owner at the forums said he was in regular touch with Akra guys via mail and they told him that the quad outlet was the one that can take in the optional CAT and it was generally what they sold for street use.
The quad outlet one sells at $1100+ while the single outlet sells for $900+ on Revzilla. I think Indian importers sell the quad exhaust for 10k more as you mentioned up there ^

Thanks for informing brother. I didn't knew of the difference. I did know of the price difference.

Rachit

**kingzeeshan** · 05-24-2016, 04:20 AM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Belated congratulations @rachitkdogra, loved the SBK its beautiful

**rachitkdogra** · 05-24-2016, 08:21 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by kingzeeshan View Post

Belated congratulations @rachitkdogra, loved the SBK its beautiful

Thank you very much brother!!

Rachit

**cgrakesh** · 05-26-2016, 12:22 PM

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Congrats Rachit. The Akra is a wonderful addition. Sounds lovely as couple of my friends in Bangalore have the same exhaust.

Here are couple of snaps along with Touring Screen. Apart from R&G Radiator Guard and Frame Sliders, I added Puig Touring Screen recently. This has reduced the wind blast considerably and can achieve higher speeds. This has made me poorer by 9K INR.

By the way, Completed by 2nd service and the SC experience was wonderful. Costed INR 1990. I am happy that Honda service cost is way below when compared to others.

**Nithesh** · 05-26-2016, 09:29 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by cgrakesh View Post

Congrats Rachit. The Akra is a wonderful addition. Sounds lovely as couple of my friends in Bangalore have the same exhaust.

Here are couple of snaps along with Touring Screen. Apart from R&G Radiator Guard and Frame Sliders, I added Puig Touring Screen recently. This has reduced the wind blast considerably and can achieve higher speeds. This has made me poorer by 9K INR.

By the way, Completed by 2nd service and the SC experience was wonderful. Costed INR 1990. I am happy that Honda service cost is way below when compared to others.

Lovely pics man. Do post your ownership thread sometimes with a lot more touring pics.

**rachitkdogra** · 05-30-2016, 09:18 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by cgrakesh View Post

Congrats Rachit. The Akra is a wonderful addition. Sounds lovely as couple of my friends in Bangalore have the same exhaust.

Here are couple of snaps along with Touring Screen. Apart from R&G Radiator Guard and Frame Sliders, I added Puig Touring Screen recently. This has reduced the wind blast considerably and can achieve higher speeds. This has made me poorer by 9K INR.

By the way, Completed by 2nd service and the SC experience was wonderful. Costed INR 1990. I am happy that Honda service cost is way below when compared to others.

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Lovely Pics man!! Good to hear that you are putting some good miles on her!! How is your overall feedback?

I am also contemplating the windscreen upgrade. I really like the MRA one.
Honda's after sales cost and experience has been so good in my experience that I am becoming a loyal Honda guy!!

Still waiting for your ownership thread sir!!

Rachit

**cgrakesh** · 05-31-2016, 01:53 PM

re: My Honda CBR650F. EDIT: Track Day at BIC on PG-53

Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post

Lovely Pics man!! Good to hear that you are putting some good miles on her!! How is your overall feedback?

I am also contemplating the windscreen upgrade. I really like the MRA one.
Honda's after sales cost and experience has been so good in my experience that I am becoming a loyal Honda guy!!

Still waiting for your ownership thread sir!!

Rachit

Thank you. The feedback is very good. Absolutely no issues till date. Just regular servicing. One guy has already clocked 14k and the feedback from him is also very positive. Till now in Bangalore Honda has sold 22 CBR's.

Regrading ownership thread, I need to start. Becoming lazy day by day

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