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**monty007** · 06-21-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

We did call up honda. And they sent an engineer. First service of the bike was combined on his visit.
The problem is that the bike on starting up/revving shows NO symptoms of anything being wrong. Okay, it might show, but only a person who is very experienced can tell... so its beyond me. Now the person who came to check the bike is a trained person on this bike. He was trained in japan.
I asked him how much has he ridden this bike. He said 5 days on honda test tracks in japan.
My concern is, when this guy is saying everything is fine, and both my bro and me are sure something is indeed wrong, can i really trust this guy. He may not be saying something wrong intentionally, but is he experienced enough to pass the bike with no problems ?
Also, they have proper testing equipments like a dyno at delhi. So i am seriously thinking about taking the bike to delhi now. Unless they have a brilliant idea and do a full diagnostic somehow in kolkata... which I am hoping they do , as it is possible... like testing air/fuel intake till injection....and proper combustion/compression in the cylinders and the exhaust system... pretty much basic ... (i hope)

wow 09 R1 in india ! cool man ... congrats !that colour is awesome too ! i think i'll go for grey as well if all this goes bad .... better to pay less than pay more and still feel there is something stuck in your throat....

Anyways, all that said, i am still hoping that honda will do something ... even though till now we haven't informed them .....
I am also out of kolkata for a couple of more days ... till then ...

bro..be calm everything will be fine.nywayss...i always got fear in my ass for DRi guys...coze its only sbk in my whole city..n guess its unofficial..but i can handle DRI guys(LONG LIVE CORRUPTION)...but i wont like to take risk ever...everyone bumping on me to post pics..but overheard tht DRI guys crwal on this forum......thanX bro...

**abhishek.murdeshwar** · 06-21-2009, 12:54 PM

@ Fireblah: I suggest you to inform Honda about this problem and let them know that you are not satisfied with the Bike performance....im sure they will try to make your doubts clear..and I would suggest you to take your bike to Delhi once and conduct full test on the bike and satisfy yourself..

**fireblah** · 06-21-2009, 08:13 PM

yes, i want to take th ebike to delhi now. but first i wanna ride her through a couple of more tank fulls , so that bad fuel is completely ruled out.
Found about another octane 97 fuel pump in kolkata ... lets see...

@bladerunner: what do you mean by ecu has to adjust for bad fuel. Do you mean the ecu detunes the bike because of bad fuel ?? and it stays detuned even if better fuel is put in ? I dont think thats true.... if it is , then ecu should again get better after getting better fuel...

**archerdyal** · 06-21-2009, 11:18 PM

Hey Fireblah

A i mentioned earlier bro stick to 91 octane dun go over as the bikes are tuned to 91 only not 95 as you said. And the other thing is after sometimes you get used to the accleration that you feel ur not getting the power delivery its all mental i think. But could be issues Honda uses a perfectly tuned map for that CBR rest you can ask them to have Scanner ready to take all the reading and get the official ranges from honda and compare them. Everything will be in front of you

**monty007** · 06-21-2009, 11:19 PM

damn yaar...its going offtopic..anyhow...suppose whatever u want to insane bro...if u say its a drift...let it be yaar..im chill coz i know da truth...

@archerdyal.:yaah i liked this pic so put it on...plz pardon me.....u got same colour i have...however u got official babe right?

**sukant08** · 06-21-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

damn yaar...its going offtopic..anyhow...suppose whatever u want to insane bro...if u say its a drift...let it be yaar..im chill coz i know da truth...

@archerdyal.:yaah i liked this pic so put it on...plz pardon me.....u got same colour i have...however u got official babe right?

I think Archer is in San Fransisco !! So he'd obviously wud've gotten the official one !!
Or in case he is in India, he hasn't as the official one will arrive only in Sep !!

See we are all ur friend and well wisher, and wanted to see ur bikes pics thats it !!

You just need to grab a crayon in PShop and blaken out everything in the surrounding !! U don't even need photoshop, u can do it in MsPaint !!
But then fair enuff, ur call !!

**Aryan** · 06-21-2009, 11:30 PM

Moderator Message.

Okay, enough talk about the 09'R1 and DRI guys already. Let us continue with the topic at hand.

@Monty: If you have got an 09'R1, then it's well and good for you. Please do not discuss about your R1 again, in this thread. On the other hand, if you are faking it, then I would say that's really bad on your part.

Now, let peace prevail, and no OT, please.

**Bladerunner** · 06-22-2009, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

@bladerunner: what do you mean by ecu has to adjust for bad fuel. Do you mean the ecu detunes the bike because of bad fuel ?? and it stays detuned even if better fuel is put in ? I dont think thats true.... if it is , then ecu should again get better after getting better fuel...

I only meant that in regards to "knocking". Yes, if you put in better fuel, the ecu will again get used to it and the performance will go up. The only reason they ask you to put 95+ is so that the bike generates all the power it has, which you will never use.

**insanebiker** · 06-22-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Bladerunner View Post

I only meant that in regards to "knocking". Yes, if you put in better fuel, the ecu will again get used to it and the performance will go up. The only reason they ask you to put 95+ is so that the bike generates all the power it has, which you will never use.

If that is the case, an ECU reset would sure help. Guess we should disconnect the battery for 15 mins or so.

**fireblah** · 06-22-2009, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by archerdyal View Post

A i mentioned earlier bro stick to 91 octane dun go over as the bikes are tuned to 91 only not 95 as you said. And the other thing is after sometimes you get used to the accleration that you feel ur not getting the power delivery its all mental i think. But could be issues Honda uses a perfectly tuned map for that CBR rest you can ask them to have Scanner ready to take all the reading and get the official ranges from honda and compare them. Everything will be in front of you

Yes, used to acceleration , true... but cant feel the difference in 24 hrs !!
anyways, i wanna take bike to delhi and compare with other same fireblade, on a dyno and on road... only then will i be satisfied...

**nabendubasu** · 06-22-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by archerdyal View Post

A i mentioned earlier bro stick to 91 octane dun go over as the bikes are tuned to 91 only not 95 as you said. And the other thing is after sometimes you get used to the accleration that you feel ur not getting the power delivery its all mental i think. But could be issues Honda uses a perfectly tuned map for that CBR rest you can ask them to have Scanner ready to take all the reading and get the official ranges from honda and compare them. Everything will be in front of you

@fireblah:did you considered this line.

**Raoul Black** · 06-22-2009, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Bladerunner View Post

I only meant that in regards to "knocking". Yes, if you put in better fuel, the ecu will again get used to it and the performance will go up. The only reason they ask you to put 95+ is so that the bike generates all the power it has, which you will never use.

bladerunner- how much would be the difference in power when you put 95+ fuel & 91 fuel. What about if you have a power commander or juice box fitted will it still cause knocking when change the grade of fuel

**fireblah** · 06-22-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by nabendubasu View Post

@fireblah:did you considered this line.

Yes I did .... see, i was riding with this in mind, but still as i have mentioned before.... i felt a difference, just within a span of 24 hrs.
Wont mention this again now :P

And i dont think knocking is because of ECU. Its because the engine is designed for higher octane and the lower octane fuel do not combust properly. Instead there are little explosions in the chamber.. etc etc that causes knocking.

**Aryan** · 06-22-2009, 10:41 AM

@Fireblah: What is the latest on Honda's front? What did they say? Are they sending over any technician? What are the steps that Honda is taking with regards to the 'problem' that your Fireblade has?

**fireblah** · 06-22-2009, 03:29 PM

the news is, we have not informed honda about anything yet. Still testing the bike as the problem seems to subside from time to time...

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