Congrats Nikhil

Thanx Bhai

by "cable" do u mean when u remove the "rubber tube" connecting pump to carb ??
have u ensured that there is no air lock coz if oil is coming out of the tube then oil pump is working fine n then it shud be sucked by the carb

how did u check that oil is not being pumped after connecting it back ??
is ur tube transparent or u checked it by the smoke in the exhaust ??
the pump takes quite a time to work n many 2t oil dont smoke much

Tell me this - have you bled the system? Bleeding is relevant for the tube that goes from oil tank to pump. Also, have you pulled out the carb end of the pipe, kept it at the same elevation and checked if the oil is coming out? And yes, the carb may also induce a suction, which would be a factor in actually getting the oil upto the carb, as Nikhils mentioned. At idle, the flow rate will be very low. You may want to rev a bit to check...

Hope you are using original tubes only, preferably transparent.

Frankly, I don't know if the pump can be repaired. But then why take chances with such a critical thing? Best to replace, if you are sure it isn't working right.

guys, trust me me and m mech, have tried it all, bleeding and all are concepts we are both familiar with, more so he since he was a TVS works manager back from 1999-2004-the core years of the shaolin shogun. So weve tried all that, tubes and all, have been checked. The pump cannot be repaired, and he has confirmed this fact, so am jus going with the premix option. However keeping the oil tank with some oil in it.



Im facing 2 very strange problems
1) prior to re-build, there was incessant sound of the crank bearings, and dat was no surprise, given the state the bike was in before, but now after rebuild and 250kms of run-in, the sound is getting louder, as the bike was just rebuilt (obviously with new crank bearings and all) the sound was there on straining ure ear, but now the sound is intensifying, im putting like 30ml of oil to a litre. What could b the problem?????


2)Now this problem could b linked to the first one need ure guys suggestions here, the bike if revved above 4K rpm, starts jerking, this was a problem prior to rebuild, mech says its coz of my carb. the jets and float might be gone
Now is this happeneing coz, the carb is not supplying the air/fuel/oil mixture properly to the block? and hence the jerkiness? and hence leading to prob where the bike might be running lean leading to the crank bearings not getting enough lube?


Really need your help guys. . .dont wana let anything to happen to her

So why don't you replace the pump?

Engine getting insufficient lube wont happen (as long as the system is working fine, of course) if you are using the pump. Oil starvation due to lean mixture is possible if you are using pre-mix. But either way, you need to fix the problem of jerking...

i bet even if the pump is dere the jerking prob wil not go, its like d horse wil come to lake , but cant force to drink thing, the oil pump might work, all might b good but if deres some prob with the carb then the pump working or not wont make a difference would it,

IN this case here is something am really considering, what could be a carb replacement, an upgrade of sorts on the shaolin? rx 100? 135 4speed 5speed? plz gime model names

the shaolin n shogun ran on ucal mikuni VM20 SS model, no point starting a hunt ofr it coz its impossible, ive already tried it. so wat could b a good replacement? some thing that WOULDNT CONSUME TOO MUCH FUEL UNNECESSARILY

Of course, the jerking problem wont go away... but at least the engine wont be oil starved, as long as the oil is getting into the engine. I know this sounds pretty elementary, but are you sure the fuel lines and filter are clean?

fuel lines and oil lines are all brand new, OE ,

Bro what could be a good carb replacement for me in this case???

pscho, atul, joel n co could also help me out here

check your pilot jet and check for the airjet clogging. take the carburetor to the puncture guy and make sure he blows compressed air through all circuits.

jerking symptom is nothing but a leaner pilot / close throttle mixture. A slightly bigger pilot would do justice. I myself run 20 pilots on my RX135 where it needs 17.5 on the stock carb/airbox. Idles well and the transition from pilots to mains and mains to pilots becomes much smoother.

On a very blunt note, why dont you just dump the oilpump man? I make sure thats the first thing I disconnect on a 2 stroke. You get to have the psychological relief of 2t going to the cylinder and also get to check the mixture on your own. atleast you can ride confidently knowing there is oil going to the crankcase than worry and seize eventually.

Anyway, not to start the oilpump v/s debate again, I feel bikes that have working oilpumps need not worry coz they always run well for donkey years. But once they show hiccups its difficult to get them working. So why beat a dead horse and just ride man

But if you must have a carb replacement, try the RXG/4 speed carb. Thats the only one i'd reccomend. I dunno how you're gonna make it fit in that tiny manifold though. My best bet would be the RX manifold on the shogun with a Mikuni TM28SS downdraft carb coz the RX manifold creates a tilt when installed on both the suzukis. The 45 degree downdraught carbs push the fuel right into the crankcase unlike the stock manifold which has a curved path. Hope you got the drift

Cheers

Atul

to fit a 4 speed carb properly onto shogun manifold u have to shave a bit of aluminium of the carb in lathe or expand the manifold by pushing the carb takes a lot of effort n it keeps coming off frequently so best is to get it shaved .

This one's for the shaolin boys. This time's crate of RXK pistons had 70 pcs of VR150 pistons as well in 8 oversizes. These are the pistons for the Suzuki Shaolin. They match the deck height, piston pockets and inner piston wall too. Later on I checked with a friend of mine and turn out these come as original fitments on the shaolin bores. Im sitting on huge stocks of std pistons as well as 8 oversizes. I'll be returning stock this week. If any of our shaolin boys want to stock a set PM me for the quantity and pricing. These are top pro VR150 pistons. Am attaching pics for reference.


Cheers

Atul

Nikhil i have read that you are running a NSR 150 carb on your shaolin, pls do post some pics and explain the procedure on how did you fit the carb in ? i mean what mods did you do to fit it in !! so that it would help the guyz out..

thats right. i have fitted it on the stock manifold which has been overstretched by the earlier rx 135 4 speed carb. you can fit the stock air filter to both these carbs but it will only be a muffling effect without much performance gains. currently i have rc 1060 knn with this carb .
and you do need a rubber manifold and a pvc pipe to connect knn n carb.
will post the pics soon .